Talk:Flash:Individual System Data - cISD

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cISD1 relative offset 0x10 (eCID, Board ID, and Kiban ID)

This table shows the similarities/differences between the values within the eCID, board_id and kiban_id of which are a 0x34 length string.

eCID board_id kiban_id
01 C A, 5, D Random 0, 1, 2 Random 7 0, 1 E, 8 0, 1 Random 0, 1 Random Random 4, C 0, 2 000000 00, 20, 10 274 5, 3 Random 4, 3 Random
01 C 5 18 0 1 23 0 56 7 0 E 0 A 0 3 C2 4 0 000000 20 274 3 8416 4 0 0 61578748 5
01 C 5 20 0 3 0D 0 92 7 0 E 0 E 0 E 0A 4 2 000000 00 274 5 3466 4 0 1 32050646 5
01 C 5 24 0 0 DE 0 DF 7 0 E 1 1 0 F 12 4 2 000000 00 274 5 6516 4 0 1 71965586 3
01 C A 04 B 7 42 1 07 7 1 8 0 7 0 B 91 4 2 000000 00 274 5 6516 4 0 1 61937641 4
01 C A 00 2 6 80 2 41 7 1 8 0 B 0 B 34 4 0 000000 10 274 3 6467 3 L E 10338534 B
01 C A 04 4 5 02 2 08 7 1 8 0 C 1 3 C9 4 2 000000 00 274 5 3023 3 H G 14397490 D
01 C D 05 D 1 41 0 46 7 1 8 0 D 1 4 EC 4 0 000000 00 274 5 5123 3 H H 11149860 D
01 C D 06 1 5 01 1 43 7 1 8 1 0 0 9 90 4 2 000000 00 274 5 6405 3 J 5 N2314209 F
01 C A 01 2 3 41 1 02 7 1 8 1 1 0 A E7 4 0 000000 20 274 3 8416 4 0 1 00067581 5
/!\ speculation row /!\ counter 1 ? counter 2 ? counter 3 ? /!\ speculation row /!\
  • eCID, Board ID, and Kiban ID regular expression (regex) based on 300+ dumps

[0][1][CDE8][0459ABCDF][012][014568C][0-9A-Z][012345678][01245689CDE][0-9A-Z][012][01245689CDE][0-9A-Z][7][01][8E][01][0-9A-Z][01][0-9A-Z][0-9A-Z][0-9A-Z][4C][02][0][0][0][0][0][0][012][0][2][7][4][23456][023456789][0-9][0-9][0-9][134][05LHJ][0125BDGEFKH][01345678AN][01234567][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][12345678ABCDEFGJ]

Discussion / controversy / speculation

  • 0E and 18 looks like a counter in hexadecimal (when converted to decimal are 14 and 24) that increases and creates 2 groups (based on manufacturing date and related with some kind of software/hardware version/revision?), if this is true is posible to start ordering the examples chronologically and if the limits of this area are correct are also defining the positions at his left and right for the previous and next values stored
  • If the values at the right of 0E and 18 are related with them we can use them as a "subversion" to make a better reorder (so 0E has subversions 0A, 0E, 11 and so on... and 18 has subversions 07, 0B, 0C, 0D, 10, 11, and so on)
  • The 0E areas in red (marked as pairs) could be used to mark "non-retail" models, missing parts, or missing/unlocked features ?
  • In lightblue are the values that seems to be static and limits the position of other values at his left and right
  • The "speculation row" in black at bottom is just to avoid modifying the table too much, feel free to fast edit, erase or add others with other brainstormings
    • the marked columns with "counters" is because all the values of this cells seems to be related, all them seems to be small values as small as 0x03 and never bigger than 0x20
  • Suggestion: The board_id and kiban_id should be compared based on the hardware id and maybe also the region of the console to show the similarities between the same hardware/board.

cISD1 relative offset 0x44 (unknown)

Unknown
NOR:3F0A4
NAND:908A4		 Unknown
+2		 Unknown
+4		 Other info from the same dump/console
HWID
NOR:2F077
NAND:80877		 bootldr Notes
20 01 20 01 20 01 01 2A 7F  CEX  preretail ?DEH-H1001-D? (COOKIE13)
00 01 00 01 FF FF 01 2A 80  DECR  DECR-1000 TMU-520
00 01 00 01 FF FF 01 2C FE  SD  DEH-Z1010 TMU-520
00 08 00 08 00 05 01 2A 1A  DEX  preretail DEH-H1000A COK-001
00 11 00 11 00 12 02 2A 2A  CEX  CECHBxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 13 00 13 00 18 01 2A 2A  DEX  nonretail DECHAxx (COK-001)
00 13 00 13 00 22 01 2A 2A  CEX  CECHAxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 19 00 19 00 28 01 2A 37  CEX  CECHAxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 19 00 19 00 28 03 2A 37  CEX  CECHCxx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 25 00 25 00 34 03 2A 37  CEX  CECHCxx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 28 00 28 00 38 01 2A 3F  CEX  CECHAxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 28 00 28 00 38 03 2A 3F  CEX  CECHExx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 31 00 31 00 41 03 30 44  CEX  refurbished CECHCxx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 31 00 31 00 41 03 30 44  CEX  CECHCxx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 39 00 39 00 49 05 2E 8C  CEX  CECHGxx SEM-001 minver 1.90
00 39 00 39 00 51 04 2E 8C  ARC  Namco System 357A COK-002
00 45 00 45 00 67 05 2F 1C  CEX  CECHExx COK-002 minver 1.90
00 45 00 45 00 67 05 2F 1C  CEX  CECHGxx SEM-001 minver 1.90
00 47 00 47 00 71 05 2E F4  CEX  CECHGxx SEM-001 minver 1.90
00 47 00 47 00 71 06 2E F4  CEX  CECHHxx DIA-00x minver 1.97
00 52 00 52 00 71 06 2E F4  CEX  CECHHxx DIA-00x minver 1.97
00 54 00 54 00 80 07 2E F4  CEX  CECHJxx DIA-00x minver 2.30
00 56 00 56 00 86 06 2E E3  CEX  CECHHxx DIA-00x minver 1.97
00 62 00 62 00 90 03 2E E3  CEX  refurbished CECHExx COK-002 minver 1.97
00 62 00 62 00 92 07 2E E3  CEX  CECHJxx DIA-00x
00 66 00 66 00 96 08 2E AB  ARC  Namco System 357B VER-001
00 60 00 60 00 88 08 2E E3  SD   DEX  Vertigo DEH-FJ1500A-J
00 66 00 66 00 96 08 2E AB  CEX  CECHLxx VER-001 minver 2.45
00 66 00 66 00 96 08 2E AB  CEX  CECHPxx VER-001 minver 2.45
00 68 00 68 00 96 08 2E AB  DEX  nonretail DECHJxx DIA-00x
00 73 00 73 00 96 08 2E AB  CEX  CECHLxx VER-00x minver 2.45
00 79 00 79 01 06 08 2E B3  CEX  CECHLxx VER-00x minver 2.45
00 85 00 85 01 06 08 2F 13  CEX  CECHLxx VER-00x minver 2.30
00 85 00 85 01 06 09 2F 13  DECR  DECR-1400 DEB-001 minver 2.60
00 85 00 85 01 14 09 2F 13  CEX  CECH-20xx DYN-00x minver 2.70
00 87 00 87 01 14 09 2F 13  CEX  CECH-20xx DYN-00x minver 2.70
00 87 00 87 01 06 08 2F 13  CEX  CECHLxx VER-00x minver 2.30
00 91 00 91 01 14 09 2F 13  CEX  CECH-20xx DYN-00x minver 2.70
00 99 00 99 01 18 09 2F 3B  CEX  CECH-20xx DYN-00x minver 2.70
01 01 01 01 01 24 0A 2F 4B  CEX  CECH-21xx SUR-00x minver 3.20
01 01 01 01 01 28 0A 2F 4B  CEX  CECH-21xx SUR-00x minver 3.20
01 07 01 07 01 28 0A 2F 4B  CEX  CECH-21xx SUR-00x minver 3.40
01 07 01 07 01 34 0B 2F 4B  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.40
01 11 01 11 01 38 0B 2F 4B  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.40
01 11 01 11 01 40 03 2F 4B  CEX  refurbished COK-002W minver 3.40
01 13 01 13 01 42 0B 2F 53  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.50
01 21 01 21 01 50 0B 2F 5B  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.56
01 23 01 23 01 52 0B 2F FB  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.60
01 29 01 29 01 58 0C 2F FB  CEX  CECH-30xx KTE-00x minver 3.60
01 31 01 31 01 60 0C 2F FB  CEX  CECH-30xx KTE-00x minver 3.60
01 65 01 65 01 80 0D 30 1B  CEX  CECH-40xx MPX-00x minver ?4.10?

Discussion / controversy / speculation

Looks like 3 "counters" with a length of 2 bytes each. Yet being the first and second value always equal and the third bigger (except in some non-retail models). The values stored are in decimal and increases chronologically based in release/repair date

Are not hardware identifyers because refurbished ps3's uses big values (ps3 models that had some kind of "software surgery" in a repair center)

  • Speculation... target stuff to "count"
    • datecodes/months/quarters
    • loaders/firmware ID's
    • Syscon "second" rom firmware version
    • sizes (of something that always increases)

cISD1 relative offset 0x50 (unknown)

Note some non-retail models uses "newer" bootloader versions than the retail models of the same production time, for this reason this table is ordered by: HWID--->unknowns--->bootloader

Unknown
NOR:3F0B0
NAND:908B0		 Unknown
+2		 Unknown
+4		 Unknown
+6		 Other info from the same dump/console
HWID
NOR:2F077
NAND:80877		 bootldr Notes
20 01 00 11 20 01 00 11 01 2A 7F  CEX  preretail ?DEH-H1001-D? (COOKIE13)
FF FF 00 11 00 01 00 11 01 2A 1A  DEX  preretail DEH-H1000A COK-001
FF FF 00 11 00 01 00 11 01 2A 80  DECR  nonretail DECR-1000 (TMU-520)
FF FF 00 11 00 01 00 11 01 2C FE  SD  nonretail DEH-Z1010 (TMU-520)
FF FF 00 11 00 02 00 12 01 2A 2A  DEX  nonretail DECHAxx (COK-001)
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 01 2A 2A  CEX  CECHAxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 01 2A 37  CEX  CECHAxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 01 2A 3F  CEX  CECHAxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 02 2A 2A  CEX  CECHBxx COK-001 minver 1.00
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 03 2A 37  CEX  CECHCxx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 03 2A 3F  CEX  CECHExx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 03 2E E3  CEX  refurbished CECHExx COK-002 minver 1.97
00 01 00 12 00 02 00 12 03 2F 4B  CEX  refurbished COK-002W minver 3.40
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 03 30 44  CEX  refurbished CECHCxx COK-002 minver 1.00
00 01 00 11 00 02 00 12 03 30 44  CEX  CECHCxx COK-002 minver 1.00
FF FF 00 11 00 03 00 12 04 2E 8C  ARC  Namco System 357A COK-002
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 05 2E 8C  CEX  CECHGxx SEM-001 minver 1.90
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 05 2E F4  CEX  CECHGxx SEM-001 minver 1.90
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 05 2F 1C  CEX  CECHGxx SEM-001 minver 1.90
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 05 2F 1C  CEX  CECHExx * SEM-001 minver 1.90
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 06 2E E3  CEX  CECHHxx DIA-001 minver 1.97
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 06 2E F4  CEX  CECHHxx DIA-001 minver 1.97
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 06 2E F4  CEX  CECHJxx DIA-002 minver 2.30
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 07 2E E3  CEX  CECHKxx DIA-002 minver 1.97
FF FF 00 11 00 02 00 12 08 2E AB  DEX  nonretail DECHJxx DIA-002
FF FF 00 11 00 03 00 12 08 2E AB  ARC  Namco System 357B VER-001
FF FF 00 11 00 02 00 12 08 2E E3  SD   DEX  VER-001 Vertigo DEH-FJ1500A-J
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 08 2E AB  CEX  CECHLxx VER-001 minver 2.45
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 08 2E AB  CEX  CECHPxx VER-001 minver 2.45
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 08 2E B3  CEX  CECHLxx VER-00x minver 2.45
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 08 2F 13  CEX  CECHLxx VER-00x minver 2.30
FF FF 00 11 00 02 00 12 09 2F 13  DECR  nonretail DECR-1400 (DEB-001)
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 09 2F 13  CEX  CECH-20xx DYN-00x minver 2.70
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 09 2F 3B  CEX  CECH-20xx DYN-00x minver 2.70
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 0A 2F 4B  CEX  CECH-21xx SUR-00x minver 3.20
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 0B 2F 4B  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.40
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 0B 2F 53  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.50
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 0B 2F 5B  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.56
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 0B 2F FB  CEX  CECH-25xx JTP-00x/JSD-00x minver 3.60
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 0C 2F FB  CEX  CECH-30xx KTE-00x minver 3.60
00 02 00 11 00 02 00 12 0D 30 1B  CEX  CECH-40xx MPX-00x minver ?4.10?

Discussion / controversy / speculation

  • 0x50 : 00 01 in all retail motherboards before SEM-001, 00 02 in all retail motherboards after SEM-001, while FF FF denotes nonretail  ARC   DEX  consoles, and 20 01 is prototype ?. This looks like hardware related, note how the refurbished examples that originally should be 00 01 was not "updated" to 00 02 after refurbishment
  • 0x52 : 00 11 in most cases, only seen 00 12 on one refurb mobo replacement
  • 0x54 : always 00 02 on retail  CEX  models, 00 03 on  ARC , 00 01 on preretails, and 20 01 on prototypes ?
    • software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard)
    • bluray related ? (arcade doesnt have bluray)
    • wifi related ? (arcade doesnt have wifi module... so 0003 = no wifi)
    • production line related (2001=prototype, 0001=preproduction, 0002=production, 0003=licensed production)
  • 0x56 : always 00 12 on final release models (including  DEX  and  ARC ), 00 11 on preretail models
    • software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard)

cISD on CEB-xxxx PS3 models

There is no cISD/Idlog area on CEB-xxxx units, instead CBE individuals are written on NOR (8MB NOR in use) as part of the individual_info file; each individual is random and is 0x24 in size.

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