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The minimum support firmware (excluding the metldr enforced one) can be seen [[Motherboard_Revisions#Product_Sub_Code|here]] and also the mapping to the Chassis ID.<br>
The minimum support firmware (excluding the metldr enforced one) can be seen [[Motherboard_Revisions#Product_Sub_Code|here]] and also the mapping to the Chassis ID.<br>
There seem to be only 4 groups (4.15, 4.20, 4.40 and 4.50).
There seem to be only 4 groups (4.15, 4.20, 4.40 and 4.50).
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I just realized... if the CokP40 adds support for PPX-001 and PQX-001 it should be a SW3-304... so the next motherboards RTX-001 and REX-001 with platform ID's cokR30, etc... should be using a new syscon [[SW3-305]]--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 00:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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Lv2 Platform identifier in Syscon firmware

This is a collection of the platform ids with their internal id which can be found in the syscon firmware

I would like to suggest to keep this list clean, avoiding adding any association with motherboards or PS3 models, to help keeping open mind, and trying to not bringing here posible "mistakes" from other wiki pages or any internet source to avoid taking things as "facts". Also, consider sony itself could have made some "mistake" or breking his own naming convention, as example labeling a prototype with a sticker telling "cytology" but returning "shreck" in the syscall that shows the platform_id. If someone wants to add some speculation crete a section at bottom of this page and post it there --Sandungas (talk) 16:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC) 

Mullion
0x10            Shr1.0
0x11            Shr1.1
0x12            Shr1.2
0x13            Shr-4D
0x14            Shr1.3
0x15            Shr-LC
0x16            Shr1.4
0x17            Shr1.5
0x20            Shr2.0
0x21            Shr2.1
0x22            Shr2.2
0x23            Shr2.3
0x24            Shr2.4
0x25            Shr2.5
0x26            Shr2.6
0x30            Shr3.0
0x31            Shr3.1
0x32            Shr3.2-4
0x33            Shr3.2
0x34            Shr3.3
0x40            Shr4.0

0x10000010      Cok01
0x10000020      Cok02
0x10000030      Cok03
0x10000050      Cok05
0x10000080      Cok08
0x100000B0      Cok11
0x100000C0      Cok12
0x100000D0      Cok13
0x100000E0      Cok14
0x10000100      CokB10
0x10000200      CokC10
0x10000201      CokC11
0x10000202      CokC12
0x10000300      CokD10
0x10000301      CokE10
0x10000301      Deb01        hardcoded

0x20000010      Cyt1.0
0x20000011      Cyt1.1
0x20000012      Cyt1.2
0x20000020      Cyt2.0
0x20000021      Cyt2.1
0x20000022      Cyt2.2
0x20000030      Cyt3.0
0x20000031      Cyt3.1
0x20000032      Cyt3.2
0x20000033      Cyt3.3
0x20000034      Cyt3.4


Sherwood
0x01            Cok11
0x02            Cok12
0x03            Cok13
0x04            Cok14 
0x10            CokB10
0x20            CokC10
0x21            CokC11
0x22            CokC12
0x30            CokD10
0x40            CokE10
0x40            Deb01        hardcoded
0x50            CokF10
0x60            CokG10
0x61            CokG11
0x70            CokH10
0x71            CokH11
0x80            CokJ13
0x80            CokJ20       hardcoded
0x90            CokK10
0xB0            CokM20
0xB8            CokM40
0xA0            CokN10
0xA8            CokN30
...

Speculation

Can't be proven atm, only for the COOKIE prototypes leading to the CECHAxx.

DEH-H1001-D -> 0xD = 13 -> ?Cok13? = COOKIE-13
DEH-H1000A-E -> 0xE = 14 -> Cok14 = COK-001 Prototype ?(COOKIE-14)?

Theory 1

  • Shr = Shreck (CEB-10XX)
  • Cyt = Cytology (CEB-20XX, DEH-R10XX, DECR-1000X)
  • Cok = Cookie (DEH-H10XX, CBEH-10XX, DECHA, CECHA)


  • Cyt2.2 = DEH-R100X / DEH-R101X / DEH-R102X
  • Cyt3.1 = DEH-R103X
  • Cyt3.2 = DEH-R104X / DECR-1000X
  • Cok14 = DEH-H1000X / CECHA

Theory 2

Trying to assing the codenames above with prototypes models...

  • SHRECK V2 series ? - There is an interesting coincidence in some of the platform_id version numbers and the numbers used in prototypes PS3 models, crosscheck with the info in: SKU_Models_Nonretail#Prototype_models
  • SHRECK V1 series ? - Following this same numbering theory... then the prototype models preceding are:
    • Shr1.0 -> CEB-1000 ?
    • Shr1.1 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1010)
    • Shr1.2 -> CEB-1020 ?
    • Shr-1.3 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1030)
    • Shr1.4 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1040)
    • Shr1.5 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1050)
  • CYTOLOGY V1 series ? - Also, this method matches with some prototypes for reference tool:

  • CYTOLOGY V2 series ? - The numbers doesnt matches in this ones, but just because in the sequence are located inmediatly after the previous prototypes for reference tool (and for completionism):


With this theory all the groups are assigned, but the question that emerges is... what happens with the platform_id for shreck v3 series (Shr3.0 Shr3.1 Shr3.2 Shr3.3), and shreck v4 series (Shr4.0 Shr-4D ShrLC) ?

Super Slims NOR vs eMMC

As explained here the circuit design of all superslim motherboards (7 motherboard models) allows to install either a NOR or a eMMC flash. If we assume the Platform ID of a specific motherboard changes based in his flash type (NOR or eMMC) we have a theoretical amount of 14 posible platform ID's for superslims
But... the fact that all the superslims allows to install a eMMC doesnt means that sony did in retail production in all them. As far i can see there are some superslim motherboards that was released only with a NOR (the eMMC variant of that specific motherboard model never was released)
This is very confusing actually, i guess at some point we will have a better understanding after some more reports, and if someone dumps and shares the syscon contents of the last PS3 model with M4j0r (because contains a list with the platform ID names from all the previous superslim PS3 models). Anyway... in the meantime im going to make a list with all the posible combinations to keep a record of which ones has been found to be real
Is relativelly easy to do if we find photos of them, even if the photo is blurry or have s small size, we just need to check the motherboard name and the presence of the NOR chip located next to the HDD connector (rectangled chip=NOR, squared chip=eMMC), if some of you find a photo or any other proof of the existence of them just post the link in this list

Some thoughts

Sony doesn't have all the platform ids inside the syscon firmware, sometimes they just overwrite the platform id using the "eeprom".
That's denoted as "hardcoded" here, which means that e.g. Syscon makes no difference between the CokE10 and Deb01 or CokJ13 and Cok20.
Also the last platform id which can be found in the latest syscon firware (304), ends at CokN30 which means all later boards are handled the same by Syscon and the platform id is just overwritten.

CokM20    Inside Syscon firmware
CokM30    Dumped MPX-001 eMMC
CokM40    Inside Syscon firmware
CokN10    Inside Syscon firmware
CokN30    Inside Syscon firmware
CokP10    Dumped unknown
CokP40    Dumped PPX-001 eMMC
CokR30    Dumped unknown

so CokX10, CokX20, CokX30, CokX40 ?

You can also see that there're 8 different Product Sub Codes for the Superslim: 0x0D, 0x0E, 0x0F, 0x10, 0x11, 0x12, 0x13, 0x14 - but only 7 boards?
The minimum support firmware (excluding the metldr enforced one) can be seen here and also the mapping to the Chassis ID.
There seem to be only 4 groups (4.15, 4.20, 4.40 and 4.50).

I just realized... if the CokP40 adds support for PPX-001 and PQX-001 it should be a SW3-304... so the next motherboards RTX-001 and REX-001 with platform ID's cokR30, etc... should be using a new syscon SW3-305--Sandungas (talk) 00:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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