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source for above: http://akihabaraarcade.blogspot.nl/2013/01/tekken-tag-tournament-2-unlimited.html | source for above: http://akihabaraarcade.blogspot.nl/2013/01/tekken-tag-tournament-2-unlimited.html | ||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6O3bJ8TFtc | |||
* Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with [[DYN-00x]] (CECH-20xx), and [[SUR-00x]] (CECH-21xx) or later [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] | |||
* Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (<s>or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication</s>), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board ''It has been confirmed that there is indeed a USB Hub inside of the System 369 hardware'' | |||
== 369 (GECR-2500) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] == | |||
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source for above: Personal collection of User:Rkrenicki | source for above: Personal collection of User:Rkrenicki | ||
== 369 (GECR-2500CU1) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] == | == 369 (GECR-2500CU1) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] == | ||
Revision as of 17:41, 19 September 2015
Namco System - Common
Namco Tekken 6 live monitor
Namco Tekken 6 standard
Namco Tekken 6 advertisement
Left: Standard version
Right: Live Monitor version
Namco System 357
- The case is a big clunky square box called "rack assy": S357-07J Assy, S357B-08J / E Assy, S357C-10J Assy, S357C-11E Assy, or S369C-11J / E Assy
- PS3 Retail based motherboards (using Target ID ARC A0), without WiFi/BT, and without BD Drive
- They do have 2 additional boards manufactured by namco: 1x I/O board, 1x JVS board (JAMMA v2 standards)
- Arcade firmware allows to install packages from the "Install package files" icon in game column
- Namco.uk cabinet manuals: http://namco.co.uk/bandainamcogames/technical-manuals/namco.html and http://www.namco.co.uk/PDF-manuals/namco-manuals/
- Overview of servicing: http://home.gamer.com.tw/creationDetail.php?sn=860018
- XMB messages related with arcade firmware updates inside dev_flash/vsh/resource/software_update_plugin.rco/English.xml
Code Sample
Game Dongles and HDDs List
The games comes preinstalled in the HDD and paired to a dongle. Games can contain firmware updates, and game updates. Both installed automatically when booting the game for first time.
The game update source: /dev_hdd0/game/SCEEXE000/ARCDIR/INSTALL0.PKG
The firmware update path (source): /dev_hdd0/game/SCEEXE000/ARCDIR/PS3UPDAT.PUP
| Namco Game | Namco System compatibility | Firmware | Website | Notes | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Year | English Name Japanese Name |
HDD Ref. | Dongle Ref. | 357 A S357-07J |
357 B S357B-08J |
357 C S357C-10J S357C-11E |
369 S369C-11J S369C-11E | |||
| 2007 | Tekken 6 鉄拳６ |
TE6100-1-NA-HDD0-A | TE61 | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | 2.51 | [Website] | |
| Tekken 6 (Live Monitor) 鉄拳６ライブモニター用 |
TE6100-1-LM-HDD0-A | TE6L | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | 2.51 | [Website] | ||
| 2008 | Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion 鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION |
T6B100-1-NA-HDD0-A or T6B100-2-NA-HDD0-A02 |
T6B1 or T6B2 |
Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | 2.51 | [Website] | There are at least 2 versions of this game |
| Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion (Live Monitor) 鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION ライブモニター用 |
T6B100-1-LM-HDD0-A | T6BL | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | 2.51 | [Website] | ||
| Razing Storm | RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A | RST1 ? | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | 2.51 | [Website] | [Service Manual.pdf] | |
| 2010 | Deadstorm Pirates | DSP100-2-NA-MPR0-BXX | DSP1 ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | [Service Manual.pdf] |
| Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | 3.60 | [Website] | ||
| 2011 | Dragon Ball Zenkai Battle Royal | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
| Taiko No Tatsujin | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | ||
| Tekken Tag Tournament 2 | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | 3.60 | [Website] | ||
| 2012 | Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. Full Boost | GEX100-1-NA-HDD0-A ? | GEX1 ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | 4.20 | [Website] | |
| Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. Full Boost (Live Monitor) | GEX100-1-LM-HDD0-A | GEX1L ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | 4.20 | [Website] | The game has five additional dongles | |
| Taiko No Tatsujin KATSU-DON | ST2100-1-NA-HDD0-A21 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | ||
| Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited | TG2100-1-NA-HDD0-F17 | TG21 & DTT2G | ? | ? | ? | Yes | 3.60 | [Website] | The game has an additional dongle | |
| Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited (Live Monitor) | TG2100-1-LM-HDD0-F17 ? | TG21L & DTT2GL ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | 3.60 | [Website] | ||
| 2013 | Taiko No Tatsujin SORAIRO | ST3100-1-NA-HDD0-B08 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
| Taiko No Tatsujin MOMOIRO | ST4100-1-NA-HDD0-K03 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | ||
| 2014 | Taiko No Tatsujin KIMIDORI | ST5100-1-NA-HDD0-A12 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
| 2015 | Taiko No Tatsujin MURASAKI | ST6100-1-NA-HDD0-A11 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
| Rows marked in gray are "live monitor" versions, not playables, are "demo" machines that displays "real live gameplay" from other machines connected to a network. [video] | ||||||||||
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion v2 game update
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion
(version A67)
Tekken 6 dongle
(TE61)
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion dongle
(T6B1)
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion v2 dongle
(T6B2)
Kidou Senshi Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost Live Monitor HDD/Dongles
(GEX100-1-LM-HDD0-A)
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited dongles
(TG21 & DTT2G)
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ARC USB stick, with multipartitions and serial datasheet: [1] (http://www.hsc-us.com/Embedded/udrw/ / http://www.hscjpn.co.jp/udrw/develop_about.php)
- Sources:
- http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Namco_System_357 /
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namco_System_357
- http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=19892
- http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_%3A_Bloodline_Rebellion_upgrade_kit_7858.html
- http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_kit_7205.html
- Namco System 369 boot process video (with Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzimKeAjBqE Note HDD Ref nº at minute 4:00 and game/version serial number at minute 7:30 (this serials and version matches with serial printed in the dongle, and the version is part of the HDD ref.)
HDD Key
The harddrive is decrypted using a static key inside lv1ldr when Target ID = 0xA0 ARC
lv1/lv1ldr should be same as on retailmodels, but for the nittpickers:
- ´357A GECR1100 COK-002´ ROS 197.000 and 251.040 : http://mir.cr/0FIFC8FA
- ´357B GECR1500 VER-001´ ROS 245.000 and 251.040 : http://mir.cr/1DHL7HW1
Bana Passport
- more Bana Passport info : http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/am/vg/wanganmaxi3dxplus/miraiken/?page=123
Bana Passport - Transfer/Copy Procedure
Namco System 357
357A (GECR-1100) COK-002
System357A GECR-1100 (Tekken 6)
System357A - CELL
System357A - RSX
System357A - SouthBridge
System357A - Motherboard Detail pic
System357A - Motherboard Overview
System357A - Motherboard Overview2
System357A - white sticker
System357A - behind
System357A - behind2
System357A - top
System357A - top uncovered
System357A - side
System357A - external
357B (GECR-1500) VER-001
System 357B (GECR-1500) inside picures :
Namco System 357B - TopBack
System357b - RSX
System357b - Bottom
System357b - Top
System357b - Tray
Arcade - Motherboard Overview
Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic1
Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic2
Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic3
Namco System357b/c connection diagram
- Namco System 357 & 369 (Wikipedia article)
- http://kotaku.com/270026/tekken-6-a%C2%AD%C2%AD%C2%ADrcade-huge-hd-costly%EF%BB%BF%EF%BB%BF
- A PS3 arcade displaying an error screen when booting (is trying to find a firmware update) the error makes appear the XMB and can be seen how "autoboots" an installed game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ss-MHvWDCk
357C (GECR-1500?) VER-001
NAMCO JVS and I/O boards
I/O board is connected to JVS board, the inputs of the I/O board (buttons, stick, credit slot) are sent to the JVS board and then to the PS3 board by a USB cable. Video signal from "PS3 board" to "JVS board" is sent with a "AV MultiOUT" cable, and then to the cabinet display using a VGA connector
Boards connectors/placement
"Peripherals", "I/O board" and "JVS Board" Block Diagram
Namco JVS boards Main Menu
JVS, or Jamma Video Standard (sometimes even called JAMMA 2), is an updated version of JAMMA created in the late 90’s by an special sub-committee consisting of the major arcade game manufacturers. http://www.jamma.or.jp/
JVS specifies the type of connectors to use for video (HD-15, commonly known as a VGA), audio (RCA) and power (JST VL), in addition to the communications protocol between the game board and the I/O board. In contrast to (old) JAMMA, JVS concentrates I/O functions in a separate board.
See: http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/JVS and http://jvspac.kirurg.org/
Namco System357 boards connectors:
- I/O board (at top, from left to right)
- 1 connector (in white) with 24 pins
- 8 dipswitches (in black/red) -> (2nd dip is for enabling 31KHz)
- 1 connector (in white) with 10 pins
- JVS board (at bottom, from left to right)
- USB (JV I/O JAMMA) interface
- DC IN ??
- VGA (video out)
- RCA white (left speaker out)
- RCA red (right speaker out)
- Note the references to system357 in "Deadstorm Pirates" and "Razing Storm" manuals.pdf, and the pictures of the connectors that can help to identify motherboards/models
- Picture in razing storm manual.pdf - (section 5.5 "inserting the dongle")... the connectors matches with a system357b (VER001 motherboard)... but there is no JVS and I/O boards
- It seems the newer system357 models (system357c ?) doesnt have/use a JVS and I/O boards, has been replaced by a "USB I/O PCB" (in page 50 and 94 in razing storm manual and the photo of "357b/c connection diagram" above), with a hardware identifyer "US1001" and/or "USIO01"
- Deadstorm Pirates
HDD CHECK MEDIA SYSTEM357 HDD ---------------------- I/O PCB CHECK I/O PCB : Connect OK NBGI.;USIO01;VerX.XX;JPN,Mulitipurpose with PPG ---------------------- OTHERS ROM DSP100-2-NA-MPR0-BXX CLOCK 01/01/2010 FRI 08:11:24 S/N 76C0D0-9XXXXX SYSTEM SW Ver. 250.XXX CABINET TYPE SD LANGUAGE ENG ATTRACT CUT OFF RATING OFF HDD CHECK CLOCK SETTING BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE
- Razing Storm
DRIVE CHECK MEDIA SYSTEM357 HD ---------------------- I/O TEST I/O PCB : CONNECT OK BNGI. : US1001 : Ver 1.00 : JPN,Multipurpose with PPG ---------------------- OTHERS ROM RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A CLOCK 09/29/2008 (MON) 22 : 12 : 44 S/N 000000-123456 LANGUAGE ENG VOICE ENG HD CHECK BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE
JVS to JAMMA converters
Used to connect JVS devices to JAMMA cabinets (older), home made cabinets, or for service/repair purposes. This converters are not present in Namco cabinets but are listed here as usefull tools or related hardware
- Power output (supplies power to the JVS board)
- VGA in (video, standard or high resolution, no medium resolution)
- USB in (for controls)
- RCA in (audio)
- Volume adjustment
- Capcom kick harness (unlike Sega IOs, Capcom IO does not use "unmapped" JAMMA pins for extra buttons, you must use this connector instead. Also, you connect 3P and 4P controls here)
- JAMMA (connect your cabinet here)
http://www.solvalou.com/arcade_naomicapcom.php and http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22062
Namco System 357A - connected to a "Capcom I/O JAMMA converter"
Namco System 357A - overview
Namco System 357A - topback
Namco System 357A - usbports
Namco System 357A - io ports
Namco System 357A - DC_IN input
JAMMA Functional Diagram
- Sega ?? (it seems there are at least 2 sega "JVS to JAMMA coverters" compatibles, for "Sega Naomi" and "Sega Lindbergh")
Namco System 369
Namco System 369 - back
Namco System 369 - Accessories
Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2
source for above: https://www.rinkya.com/en/auction-k159839038
System 36911J - Tekken Tag 2 - Cabinet
System 36911J - overview
System 36911J - topback
System 36911J - dongles
System 36911J - top
System_36911J - top_sticker bottomright
System 36911J - top sticker topright
System 36911J - back
source for above: http://akihabaraarcade.blogspot.nl/2013/01/tekken-tag-tournament-2-unlimited.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6O3bJ8TFtc
- Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with DYN-00x (CECH-20xx), and SUR-00x (CECH-21xx) or later JTP-001/JSD-001
- Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (
or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board It has been confirmed that there is indeed a USB Hub inside of the System 369 hardware
369 (GECR-2500) JTP-001/JSD-001
System 369 Exterior View
System 369 Interior Overall Top
System 369 Interior Overall Bottom
System 369 USB Hub
System 369 Motherboard USB Header
System 369 JVS Board Power Supply
System 369 JVS Board
System 369 Motherboard Top
System 369 Motherboard Top 2 (Note missing BDROM drive and Wireless circuitry)
System 369 Motherboard Serial (GECR-2500)
System 369 Motherboard Bottom
System 369 Motherboard Bottom 2 (JTP-001)
System 369 Motherboard Bottom 3
source for above: Personal collection of User:Rkrenicki
369 (GECR-2500CU1) JTP-001/JSD-001
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