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* FW [http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8382/15032010.jpg 4.11 ofw example] (CEX) <!--// Xpenet //-->
* FW [http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8382/15032010.jpg 4.11 ofw example] (CEX) <!--// Xpenet //-->
* FW [http://f.imgtmp.com/CGv35.jpg 4.11 ofw example]  CECHAxx or CECHBxx
* FW [http://f.imgtmp.com/CGv35.jpg 4.11 ofw example]  CECHAxx or CECHBxx
===Syscon string format speculation===
* FW [[:File:8dhVe.jpg|Rogero 4.30 MFW example]] CECH2502B
* FW [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109578126/CECH25-11_4.60_30_06_2014.jpg 4.60 ofw example] CECH-2511A


There are motherboards with 4.00 firmware with a string filled with zeroes after the "." (0000000000000000). This zeroes means that his SoftID includes all the needed patches (in other words... 4.00ofw contains no patches aplicables to this syscon)
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File:MoreSystemInformation100Retail.png|[[CECHBxx|CECHB01]] with FW 1.00
There is a direct relationship between the numbers used in the names of the .pkg's and the info shown after the "." e.g: SYS_CON_FIRMWARE_01040402.pkg will be shown in screen as: 0E69.0001000400040002 (to convert the string just add a zeroed byte before every byte)
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECHA01-102.JPG|[[CECHAxx|CECHA01]] with FW 1.02
 
File:IMG 0148.JPG|[[CECHAxx|CECHA00]] with FW 1.10
Based in the numbers used in the patches them can be ordered in a timeline from "older to newer": 0100****.pkg 0101****.pkg 0102****.pkg 0103****.pkg 0104****.pkg 0105****.pkg (there are only patches for 6 different syscons in 4.00 firmware, but probably there are more syscon generations used in newer motherboards that doesn't need patches yet)
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-270.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 2.70
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-276.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 2.76
The only patch that doesn't follow this rules is SYS_CON_FIRMWARE_S1_00010002083E0832.pkg whose numbers string doesn't need conversion, but it keeps the format 00010002******** (its unknown why this patch is speciall, and if it uses a different install method than the others)
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-280.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 2.80
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-300.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.00
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-301.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.01
Note there are only 5 syscon hardware series known in this order: CXR713F120A, CXR713120-201GB, SW-30x, SW2-30x, and  SW3-30x
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-310.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.10
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-315.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.15
The SoftID versions are ordered chronologically, and are dependant of this hardware revisions of syscon. As an example the chronologicall order of SoftID availables for CXR713120-201GB is 0B8E--->0C16--->0D52--->0DBF--->0E69. After this SoftID the increasing numeration stops. In the next hardware revision of syscon (SW-30x series) the SoftID starts in 065D (is smaller than the previous series)... is not clear if this series continues with SW2-30x and later with SW3-30x because the numbers matches but the syscon hardware is a different series
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-32100.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.21
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-330.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.20
The value used in SoftID is not an identifyer of syscon hardware itself, actually each syscon has several SoftiID compatibles (but this doesnt means that all the compatible versions can be installed because the syscon firmware contains code to initialize/manage/communicate with other components of the motherboard as cell, southbridge (and underlying starship?, sata/pata adaptor?), etc...). In the case of a syscon firmware installed in a compatible syscon but with an incorrect SoftID some components of the motherboard can stop working, the whole system unable to boot or permanently bricked
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-340.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.40
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-341.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.41
It seems CXR713F120A and CXR713120-201GB has the same package/pinout... so maybe this first 2 syscon models can be refered as "CXR713 series" his SoftID versions keeps the chronologically order. Then the "rare" version is "03FB" because there is a "jump" after it... maybe this strange behaviour in the versions is related with the "CP updates" ?
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-342.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.42
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-350.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.50
Note at the bottom of this page: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Talk:System_Controller_Firmware (CXR713F120A syscon located ON the Communication Processor Board). Is the same component, but is an important change in the hardware, this can be a good reason to keep a different SoftID versioning for this "pre-release" DECR models
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH2004B-355-spoofed.JPG|[[CECH-20xx|CECH2004B]] with FW 3.55 spoofed
 
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH4004A-431.JPG|[[CECH-40xx|CECH4004A]] with FW 4.31
===Example tables (please help to fill it)===
File:MoreSystemInformation-CECH4002C.jpg|[[CECH-40xx|CECH4002C]] with FW 4.31
{| class="wikitable sortable"
File:CECH-2104A-pic1.jpg|[[CECH-21xx]] with FW 4.31
|-
File:CECH-2104A-pic2.jpg|[[CECH-21xx]] with FW 4.31
! PS3 Model !! Syscon serial !! firmware installed !! SoftID.SysconPatch@SC !! SoftID !! SysconPatch !! Patch installed !! Notes
File:CECH-2104A_-_pic1.jpg|[[CECH-21xx]] with FW 4.31
|-
File:MoreSystemInformation-DECR-1000.jpg|[[DECR-1000]] with FW 3.55
| DECR-1000/1000A || [[CXR713F120A]] || 4.30 (CP ver 1.33) || 03FB.0000000000000000@SC  || generation 0 || || v1.0.5c1_TMU510_u.bin || Updated through CP updates, no patches, full firmware overwritten
File:8dhVe.jpg|More System Information on Rogero 4.30
|-
File:119969721 4660026800704403 4070297939326266936 n.jpg|More System Information On Rebug 4.86 (Pro_5.0)
| DEH-H1000A(S)(-E(S)) || [[CXR713F120A]] || 4.30 || 0B67.0000000000000000@SC  || generation 0 || || n/a || No patches available
File:MoreSystemInformation CECHC COK-002 CXR714120-303GB with 65nm RSX.PNG|CECHC COK-002 CXR714120-303GB with 65nm RSX
|-
File:MoreSystemInformation CECHA with 40nm RSX.jpg|CECHA with 40nm RSX
| DEH-H1001-D || [[CXR713F120A]] || 4.30 || 0B67.0000000000000000@SC  || generation 0 || || n/a || No patches available
File:MoreSystemInformation DECHA00A.jpg|DECHA00A/J
|-
File:DECH3000A DTCPIPDEVDEX more-system-info.png|DECH3000A DTCPIPDEVDEX
| CECHAxx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || 3.41+ || 0B8E.0001000000000006@SC  || generation 1 || v1.0 / 0 ? / update 6 || 01000006.pkg || Available: 01000004.pkg  (1.30fw), 01000005.pkg  (1.81fw), 01000006.pkg  (3.40fw)
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|- bgcolor="#ffcccc"
| CECHBxx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || ???? || 0B8E.00010000????????@SC  || generation 1 || v1.0 ??? || ???? || <------- Needed example
|-
| CECHCxx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || 3.70 || 0C16.0001000100030003@SC || generation 2 || v1.1 / 3 ? / update 3 || 01010303.pkg || Available: 01010302.pkg (1.81fw), 01010303.pkg (3.40fw)
|- bgcolor="#ffcccc"
| CECHExx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || ???? || ????.????????????????@SC || ???? || ??? || ???? || <------- Needed example
|-
| CECHGxx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || 3.55 || 0D52.0001000200030002@SC || generation 3 || v1.2 / 3 ? / update 2 || 01020302.pkg || Available: 01020302.pkg (3.40fw)
|-
| CECHHxx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || 4.00 || 0DBF.0001000300030002@SC || generation 4 || v1.3 / 3 ? / update 2 || 01030302.pkg || Available: 01030302.pkg (3.40fw)
|-
| DECR-1400/1400A || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || 4.30 || 0E69.0001000400040001@SC || generation 5 || v1.4 / 4 ? / update 1 || n/a || Never updated (no existing patches for the target)
|-
| CECHJxx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || 3.55 || 0E69.0001000400040002@SC || generation 5 || v1.4 / 4 ? / update 2 || 01040402.pkg || Available: 01040402.pkg (3.40fw)
|-
| CECHKxx || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || 3.55 || 0E69.0001000400040002@SC || generation 5 || v1.4 / 4 ? / update 2 || 01040402.pkg || Available: 01040402.pkg (3.40fw)
|- bgcolor="#cccccc"
| Unknown || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || ???? || 0F29.0001000500000002@SC || generation 6? || v1.5 / 0 ? / update 2 || 01050002.pkg || Available: 01050002.pkg (3.40fw) - prototype? (see: [[Talk:Motherboard_Revisions| platform.id "Gno")]]
|- bgcolor="#cccccc"
| Unknown || [[CXR713120-201GB]] || ???? || 0F38.0001000500010001@SC || generation 7? || v1.5 / 1 ? / update 1 || 01050101.pkg || Available: 01050101.pkg (3.41fw) - prototype? (see: [[Talk:Motherboard_Revisions| platform.id "Gno")]]
|-
| CECHLxx || [[SW-30x]] || 3.65 || 065D.0000000000000000@SC || generation 8? || || n/a ||
|-
| CECHMxx || [[SW-30x]] || ???? || 065D.0000000000000000@SC|| ???? || || ???? ||
|-
| CECHPxx || [[SW-30x]] || 4.00 || 065D.0000000000000000@SC || generation 8? || || n/a ||
|-
| CECHQxx || [[SW-30x]] || 4.00 || 065D.0000000000000000@SC || generation 8? || || n/a ||
|-
| CECH-20xx || [[SW2-30x]] || 4.00 || 0832.00010002083E0832@SC || generation 9? || || 00010002083E0832.pkg || Available: 00010002083E0832.pkg (3.00fw)
|- bgcolor="#ffcccc"
| CECH-21xx || [[SW2-30x]] || ???? || ????.????????????????@SC || ???? || ??? || ???? || <------- Needed example
|-
| CECH-25xx || [[SW2-30x]] || 4.00 || 08C2.0000000000000000@SC || generation 10? || || n/a ||
|-
| CECH-30xx || [[SW2-30x]] || 4.00 || 0918.0000000000000000@SC || generation 11? || || n/a ||
|- bgcolor="#ffcccc"
| CECH-40xx || [[SW3-30x]] || ???? || ????.????????????????@SC || ??? || ??? || ??? || <------- Needed example
|-
|}
 
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i think that this will explain everything: http://pastebin.com/k8KHGkzB and these are the generation of the SC http://pastebin.com/aJ3gxRKx (probably the first group is the correct one).
 
<pre>
03FB -> 001111111011
0B67 -> 101101100111
0B8E -> 101110001110
0C16 -> 110000010110
0D52 -> 110101010010
0DBF -> 110110111111
0E69 -> 111001101001
065D -> 011001011101
0832 -> 100000110010
08C2 -> 100011000010
0918 -> 100100011000
</pre>
 
[[User:Deroad|Deroad]] 19:06, 21 November 2012 (MSK)

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