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| Tekken 6 <BR />鉄拳6 || TE6100-1-NA-HDD0-A || TE61 || {{Yes}} || {{ | | Tekken 6 <BR />鉄拳6 || TE6100-1-NA-HDD0-A || TE61 || {{Yes}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || 1.10 || [[http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/index.html Website]] || | ||
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| Tekken 6 (Live Monitor) <BR />鉄拳6ライブモニター用 || TE6100-1-LM-HDD0-A || TE6L || {{Yes}} || {{ | | Tekken 6 (Live Monitor) <BR />鉄拳6ライブモニター用 || TE6100-1-LM-HDD0-A || TE6L || {{Yes}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || 1.60 || [[http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/index.html Website]] || | ||
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! rowspan="3" | 2008 | ! rowspan="3" | 2008 | ||
| Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion <BR />鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION || T6B100-1-NA-HDD0-A or <BR />T6B100-2-NA-HDD0-A02 || T6B1 or <BR />T6B2 || {{Yes}} || {{ | | Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion <BR />鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION || T6B100-1-NA-HDD0-A or <BR />T6B100-2-NA-HDD0-A02 || T6B1 or <BR />T6B2 || {{Yes}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || 2.51 || [[http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6br/index.html Website]] || There are at least 2 versions of this game | ||
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| Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion (Live Monitor) <BR />鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION ライブモニター用 || T6B100-1-LM-HDD0-A || T6BL || {{Yes}} || {{ | | Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion (Live Monitor) <BR />鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION ライブモニター用 || T6B100-1-LM-HDD0-A || T6BL || {{Yes}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || 2.51 ||[[http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6br/index.html Website]] || | ||
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| Razing Storm || RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A || RST1 ? || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || ? || 2.51 || [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/am/vg/razingstorm/ Website]] || [[http://www.namco.co.uk/PDF-manuals/namco-manuals/Razing_Storm-Manual.pdf Service Manual.pdf]] | | Razing Storm || RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A || RST1 ? || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || ? || 2.51 || [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/am/vg/razingstorm/ Website]] || [[http://www.namco.co.uk/PDF-manuals/namco-manuals/Razing_Storm-Manual.pdf Service Manual.pdf]] | ||
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| Taiko No Tatsujin KATSU-DON || ST2100-1-NA-HDD0-A21 || ? || ? || ? || {{Yes}} || ? || ? || [[http://taiko.namco-ch.net/ Website]] || | | Taiko No Tatsujin KATSU-DON || ST2100-1-NA-HDD0-A21 || ? || ? || ? || {{Yes}} || ? || ? || [[http://taiko.namco-ch.net/ Website]] || | ||
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| Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited || TG2100-1-NA-HDD0-F17 || TG21 & DTT2G || | | Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited || TG2100-1-NA-HDD0-F17 || TG21 & DTT2G || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{Yes}} || 3.60 || [[http://www.tekken-official.jp/ Website]] || The game has an additional dongle | ||
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| Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited (Live Monitor) || TG2100-1-LM-HDD0-F17 ? || TG21L & DTT2GL | | Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited (Live Monitor) || TG2100-1-LM-HDD0-F17 ? || TG21L & DTT2GL {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{Yes}} || 3.60 || [[http://www.tekken-official.jp/ Website]] || | ||
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Revision as of 01:47, 17 July 2023
Namco System - Common
- The case is a big clunky square box called "rack assy": S357-07J Assy, S357B-08J / E Assy, S357C-10J Assy, S357C-11E Assy, or S369C-11J / E Assy
- PS3 Retail based motherboards (using Product Code ARC A0), without WiFi/BT module/board, and without BD Drive (and without integrated BD controller in motherboards over CECH-25xx)
- They do have 2 additional boards manufactured by namco: 1x I/O board, 1x JVS board (JAMMA v2 standards)
- Arcade firmware allows to install packages from the "Install package files" icon in game column
- Namco.uk cabinet manuals: http://namco.co.uk/bandainamcogames/technical-manuals/namco.html and http://www.namco.co.uk/PDF-manuals/namco-manuals/
- Overview of servicing: http://home.gamer.com.tw/creationDetail.php?sn=860018
- Lisences of software used on GECR-1100/GECR-1500/GECR-2500/GECR-2500CU1: https://product.bandainamco-am.co.jp/am/vg/s357-license/license.php
- XMB messages related with arcade firmware updates inside dev_flash/vsh/resource/software_update_plugin.rco/English.xml
<Text name="msg_update_copying_donot_turn_off_arcade">Copying update data to the system storage... Do not turn off the system.</Text> <Text name="msg_eject_media_auto_restart_arcade">Remove the storage media that contains update data. By removing the storage media, the system will automatically restart.</Text>
Game Dongles and HDDs List
The games comes preinstalled in the HDD and paired to a dongle. Games can contain firmware updates, and game updates. Both installed automatically when booting the game for first time.
The game update source: /dev_hdd0/game/SCEEXE000/ARCDIR/INSTALL0.PKG
The firmware update path (source): /dev_hdd0/game/SCEEXE000/ARCDIR/PS3UPDAT.PUP
Namco Game | Namco System compatibility | Firmware | Website | Notes | ||||||
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Year | English Name Japanese Name |
HDD Ref. | Dongle Ref. | 357 A S357-07J |
357 B S357B-08J |
357 C S357C-10J S357C-11E |
369 S369C-11J S369C-11E | |||
2007 | Tekken 6 鉄拳6 |
TE6100-1-NA-HDD0-A | TE61 | Yes | No | No | No | 1.10 | [Website] | |
Tekken 6 (Live Monitor) 鉄拳6ライブモニター用 |
TE6100-1-LM-HDD0-A | TE6L | Yes | No | No | No | 1.60 | [Website] | ||
2008 | Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion 鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION |
T6B100-1-NA-HDD0-A or T6B100-2-NA-HDD0-A02 |
T6B1 or T6B2 |
Yes | No | No | No | 2.51 | [Website] | There are at least 2 versions of this game |
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion (Live Monitor) 鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION ライブモニター用 |
T6B100-1-LM-HDD0-A | T6BL | Yes | No | No | No | 2.51 | [Website] | ||
Razing Storm | RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A | RST1 ? | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | 2.51 | [Website] | [Service Manual.pdf] | |
2010 | Deadstorm Pirates | DSP100-2-NA-MPR0-BXX | DSP1 ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | [Service Manual.pdf] |
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | 3.60 | [Website] | ||
2011 | Dragon Ball Zenkai Battle Royal | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
Taiko No Tatsujin | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | ||
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | Yes | 3.60 | [Website] | ||
2012 | Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. Full Boost | GEX100-1-NA-HDD0-A ? | GEX1 ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | 4.20 | [Website] | |
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. Full Boost (Live Monitor) | GEX100-1-LM-HDD0-A | GEX1L ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | 4.20 | [Website] | The game has five additional dongles | |
Taiko No Tatsujin KATSU-DON | ST2100-1-NA-HDD0-A21 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | ||
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited | TG2100-1-NA-HDD0-F17 | TG21 & DTT2G | No | No | No | Yes | 3.60 | [Website] | The game has an additional dongle | |
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited (Live Monitor) | TG2100-1-LM-HDD0-F17 ? | No | No | No | No | Yes | 3.60 | [Website] | ||
2013 | Taiko No Tatsujin SORAIRO | ST3100-1-NA-HDD0-B08 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
Taiko No Tatsujin MOMOIRO | ST4100-1-NA-HDD0-K03 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | ||
2014 | Taiko No Tatsujin KIMIDORI | ST5100-1-NA-HDD0-A12 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
2015 | Taiko No Tatsujin MURASAKI | ST6100-1-NA-HDD0-A11 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
2017 | Taiko No Tatsujin YELLOW | ST9100-1-NA-HDD0-J09 | ? | ? | ? | Yes | ? | ? | [Website] | |
Rows marked in gray are "live monitor" versions, not playables, are "demo" machines that displays "real live gameplay" from other machines connected to a network. [video] |
ARC USB stick, with multipartitions and serial datasheet: [1] (http://www.hsc-us.com/Embedded/udrw/ / http://www.hscjpn.co.jp/udrw/develop_about.php)
- Sources:
- http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Namco_System_357 /
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namco_System_357
- http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=19892
- http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_%3A_Bloodline_Rebellion_upgrade_kit_7858.html
- http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_kit_7205.html
- Namco System 369 boot process video (with Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzimKeAjBqE Note HDD Ref nº at minute 4:00 and game/version serial number at minute 7:30 (this serials and version matches with serial printed in the dongle, and the version is part of the HDD ref.)
HDD Key
The harddrive is decrypted using a static key inside lv1ldr when Product Code = 0xA0 ARC
lv1/lv1ldr should be same as on retailmodels, but for the nittpickers:
- ´357A GECR1100 COK-002´ ROS 197.000 and 251.040 : http://mir.cr/0FIFC8FA
- ´357B GECR1500 VER-001´ ROS 245.000 and 251.040 : http://mir.cr/1DHL7HW1
Bana Passport
- more Bana Passport info : http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/am/vg/wanganmaxi3dxplus/miraiken/?page=123
Namco System 357
357A (GECR-1100) COK-002
System357A GECR-1100 (Tekken 6)
357B (GECR-1500) VER-001
System 357B (GECR-1500) inside picures :
- Namco System 357 & 369 (Wikipedia article)
- http://kotaku.com/270026/tekken-6-a%C2%AD%C2%AD%C2%ADrcade-huge-hd-costly%EF%BB%BF%EF%BB%BF
- A PS3 arcade displaying an error screen when booting (is trying to find a firmware update) the error makes appear the XMB and can be seen how "autoboots" an installed game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ss-MHvWDCk
357C (GECR-2500) JTP-001
The Namco System 357C is the exact same thing as the 369, although it has no USB hub type interface,only a single USB cable. Everything else remains the same
This system is also known as the 359 but finding one with that sticker is pretty rare. This system was released a year before the 369 and was mainly used for the Gundam and Dragon Ball Z games
Namco System 369
source for above: https://www.rinkya.com/en/auction-k159839038
source for above: http://akihabaraarcade.blogspot.nl/2013/01/tekken-tag-tournament-2-unlimited.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6O3bJ8TFtc
- Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with DYN-00x (CECH-20xx), and SUR-00x (CECH-21xx) or later JTP-001
- Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (
or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board It has been confirmed that there is indeed a USB Hub inside of the System 369 hardware
369 (GECR-2500 CU1) JTP-001
source for above: Personal collection of User:Rkrenicki
Namco System 357 JVS and I/O boards
I/O board is connected to JVS board, the inputs of the I/O board (buttons, stick, credit slot) are sent to the JVS board and then to the PS3 board by a USB cable. Video signal from "PS3 board" to "JVS board" is sent with a "AV MultiOUT" cable, and then to the cabinet display using a VGA connector
JVS, or Jamma Video Standard (sometimes even called JAMMA 2), is an updated version of JAMMA created in the late 90’s by an special sub-committee consisting of the major arcade game manufacturers. http://www.jamma.or.jp/
JVS specifies the type of connectors to use for video (HD-15, commonly known as a VGA), audio (RCA) and power (JST VL), in addition to the communications protocol between the game board and the I/O board. In contrast to (old) JAMMA, JVS concentrates I/O functions in a separate board.
See: http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/JVS and http://jvspac.kirurg.org/
Namco System357 boards connectors:
- I/O board (at top, from left to right)
- 1 connector (in white) with 24 pins
- 8 dipswitches (in black/red) -> (2nd dip is for enabling 31KHz)
- 1 connector (in white) with 10 pins
- JVS board (at bottom, from left to right)
- USB (JV I/O JAMMA) interface
- DC IN +5v (to power Namco board,only used for the 357A and 357B)
- VGA (video out)
- RCA white (left speaker out)
- RCA red (right speaker out)
- Note the references to system357 in "Deadstorm Pirates" and "Razing Storm" manuals.pdf, and the pictures of the connectors that can help to identify motherboards/models
- Picture in razing storm manual.pdf - (section 5.5 "inserting the dongle")... the connectors matches with a system357b (VER001 motherboard)... but there is no JVS and I/O boards
- It seems the newer system357 models (system357c ?) doesnt have/use a JVS and I/O boards, has been replaced by a "USB I/O PCB" (in page 50 and 94 in razing storm manual and the photo of "357b/c connection diagram" above), with a hardware identifyer "US1001" and/or "USIO01"
- Deadstorm Pirates
HDD CHECK MEDIA SYSTEM357 HDD ---------------------- I/O PCB CHECK I/O PCB : Connect OK NBGI.;USIO01;VerX.XX;JPN,Mulitipurpose with PPG ---------------------- OTHERS ROM DSP100-2-NA-MPR0-BXX CLOCK 01/01/2010 FRI 08:11:24 S/N 76C0D0-9XXXXX SYSTEM SW Ver. 250.XXX CABINET TYPE SD LANGUAGE ENG ATTRACT CUT OFF RATING OFF HDD CHECK CLOCK SETTING BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE
- Razing Storm
DRIVE CHECK MEDIA SYSTEM357 HD ---------------------- I/O TEST I/O PCB : CONNECT OK BNGI. : US1001 : Ver 1.00 : JPN,Multipurpose with PPG ---------------------- OTHERS ROM RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A CLOCK 09/29/2008 (MON) 22 : 12 : 44 S/N 000000-123456 LANGUAGE ENG VOICE ENG HD CHECK BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE
JVS to JAMMA converters
Used to connect JVS devices to JAMMA cabinets (older), home made cabinets, or for service/repair purposes. This converters are not present in Namco cabinets but are listed here as usefull tools or related hardware
- Power output (supplies power to the JVS board)
- VGA in (video, standard or high resolution, no medium resolution)
- USB in (for controls)
- RCA in (audio)
- Volume adjustment
- Capcom kick harness (unlike Sega IOs, Capcom IO does not use "unmapped" JAMMA pins for extra buttons, you must use this connector instead. Also, you connect 3P and 4P controls here)
- JAMMA (connect your cabinet here)
http://www.solvalou.com/arcade_naomicapcom.php and http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22062
- Sega ?? (it seems there are at least 2 sega "JVS to JAMMA coverters" compatibles, for "Sega Naomi" and "Sega Lindbergh")
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