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Need help getting data for the different SKU models and the default harddrive they are equiped with.
There is still some conflicting data to be sorted out, e.g.:
maximum size internal drive
The maximum size of the internal harddrive that the PS3 supports is 1TB (TeraBytes) note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB
Personal experience
Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle)
- Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive".
- When trying all the other Recovery Menu options it errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
- When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
- When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total
- Conclusion
- >1TB didn't not work.
Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM
- Second try, using Service Mode
- first replacing drive for original 120GB 2.5" and using Factory Service Mode to downgrade to lowest firmware the system can handle (2K slim -> FW 2.70)
- Result is fine. Log showed no errors : UPDATER_LOG.TXT
- Replaced for 1.5TB 3.5" drive and do exactly the same 2.70 again
- Result is fine. Log showed no errors : UPDATER_LOG.TXT
- Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
- No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues:
System Software Version 2.70 IP Address xxx.xxx.x.xxx MAX Address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx Free Space 30 G
- Exit Factory Service Mode
- Blank screen freeze when trying to boot to XMB in normal mode
- Power off and try again gives "system software was not installed correct" error
- inserted USB with 2.70 on normal location and START+SELECT button to let it reinstall
- Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial.
- Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity
- Conclusion
- >1TB didn't not work in normal or recovery mode only with FSM enabled.
Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking
- Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
- Entering Factory Service Mode with 1TB and let it reinstall via lv2diag results fine without errors: UPDATER_LOG.TXT
- Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
- No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues (the '30 G' seems to be FSM related):
System Software Version 2.70 IP Address xxx.xxx.x.xxx MAX Address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx Free Space 30 G
- Exit Factory Service Mode
- No problems to get into XMB, and checking System Settings > System Information shows no size detection issues:
System Software Version 2.70 IP Address xxx.xxx.x.xxx MAX Address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx Free Space 827GB / 931GB
- Conclusion
- <1TB works fine in all modi.
maximum size external drive
External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB note: this seems untrue, because when >2TB drives have hit the market, no screenshots of >2TB external storage are known
- sources used: source: http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html#PS3_Harddrive and euss temp blog
- todo: flush out errors, merging in a readable format
AES-256-CBC versus AES-256-XTS
There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption.
Fact:
- Sony/IBM loves AES
- 256bit based
- sectorsize 512 bytes (4096 bits)
- blockcipher
- recurring patterns are seen
Reference:
Experimental Tables
A collection of productsheets/datasheets renamed and ordered by series http://www.sendspace.com/file/yi4zi6 (fujitsu series are missing)
| Manufacturer | Series | Model | Capacity | Rotation Speed (Platters/Heads) |
Buffer | Interface | Seek Speeds | Power Requirements | Operating Temp. |
Noise Max |
Used in PS3 Models | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| tracks | latency | read | write | startup | idle | read | write | |||||||||||||
| Fujitsu | MHW | MHW2040BH | 40 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-150 | 1.5 ms | 5.56 ms | 12 ms | 14 ms | 1.0 A | 0.60 W | 1.9 W | 1.9 W | 55 ºC | 2.0 bels | CECHJxx | |||
| MHZ | MHZ2080BH | 80 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 1.5 ms | 5.56 ms | 12 ms | 14 ms | 1.0 A | 0.60 W | 1.9 W | 1.9 W | 55 ºC | 2.4 bels | CECHKxx, CECHLxx | ||||
| MHZ2160BH | 160 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 1.5 ms | ?.?? ms | ?? ms | ?? ms | 1.0 A | 0.60 W | 2.1 W | 2.1 W | 55 ºC | 2.0 bels | CECHPxx, CECHQxx | |||||
| Hitachi | Travelstar 5K160 | HTS541640J9SA00 | 40 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-150 | 2.2 ms | 5.50 ms | 14 ms | 15 ms | 1.0 A | 0.85 W | 1.8 W | 1.8 W | 55 ºC | 2.7 bels | CECHHxx | |||
| Travelstar 5K250 | HTS542580K9SA00 | 80 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-150 | 2.2 ms | 5.50 ms | 14 ms | 15 ms | 1.0 A | 0.85 W | 1.8 W | 1.8 W | 55 ºC | 2.7 bels | CECHLxx | ||||
| Travelstar 5K500 | HTS545012B9SA00 | 120 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-150 | 2.2 ms | 5.50 ms | 14 ms | 15 ms | 0.9 A | 0.80 W | 1.4 W | 1.4 W | 55 ºC | 2.9 bels | CECH-20xxA | ||||
| Travelstar Z5K500 | HTS545050A7E380 | 500 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.2 ms | 5.50 ms | 13 ms | 13 ms | 0.9 A | 0.55 W | 1.6 W | 1.6 W | 60 ºC | 2.1 bels | CECH-40xxC | ||||
| Seagate | Momentus 5400.2 | ST96812AS | 60 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-150 | 1.5 ms | 5.56 ms | 12 ms | 14 ms | 1.1 A | 0.99 W | 1.9 W | 2.3 W | 55 ºC | 3.1 bels | CECHAxx, CECHCxx | |||
| Momentus 5400.3 | ST980811AS | 80 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-150 | 1.5 ms | 5.56 ms | 11 ms | 13 ms | 1.0 A | 0.75 W | 1.9 W | 1.8 W | 60 ºC | 3.2 bels | CECHExx | ||||
| LD25 SATA | ST920217AS | 20 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 2 MB | SATA-150 | 2.0 ms | 5.60 ms | 16 ms | 16 ms | 1.0 A | ?.?? W | 2.3 W | 2.3 W | 55 ºC | 2.7 bels | CECHBxx | ||||
| ST9402115AS | 40 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 2 MB | SATA-150 | 2.0 ms | 5.60 ms | 16 ms | 16 ms | 1.0 A | 2.00 W | 2.3 W | 2.3 W | 55 ºC | 2.7 bels | CECHGxx, CECHHxx | |||||
| LD25 5400.2 | ST940210AS | 40 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 2 MB | SATA-150 | 1.5 ms | 5.60 ms | 15 ms | 15 ms | 1.0 A | 2.50 W | 2.3 W | 2.3 W | 60 ºC | 2.6 bels | CECHJxx | ||||
| Toshiba | MKxx52GSX | MK8052GSX | 80 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | ?.?? ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.85 W | 2.0 W | 2.0 W | 55 ºC | 25 dBA | CECHLxx | |||
| MK1652GSX | 160 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | ?.?? ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.85 W | 2.0 W | 2.0 W | 55 ºC | 25 dBA | CECHPxx | |||||
| MKxx55GSX | MK1255GSX | 120 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | 5.55 ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.85 W | 1.4 W | 1.4 W | 55 ºC | 2.0 bels | CECH-20xxA | ||||
| MK2555GSX | 250 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | 5.55 ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.85 W | 1.4 W | 1.4 W | 55 ºC | 2.0 bels | CECH-20xxB | |||||
| MKxx65GSX | MK1665GSX | 160 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | ?.?? ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.75 W | 1.5 W | 1.5 W | 55 ºC | 20 dBA | CECH-25xxA | ||||
| MK3265GSX | 320 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | ?.?? ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.75 W | 1.5 W | 1.5 W | 55 ºC | 20 dBA | CECH-25xxB | |||||
| MKxx76GSX | MK1676GSX | 160 GB | 5400rpm (1/1) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | 5.55 ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.55 W | 1.5 W | 1.5 W | 55 ºC | 20 dBA | CECH-30xxA | ||||
| MK3276GSX | 320 GB | 5400rpm (1/2) | 8 MB | SATA-300 | 2.0 ms | 5.55 ms | 12 ms | 12 ms | 0.9 A | 0.55 W | 1.5 W | 1.5 W | 55 ºC | 20 dBA | CECH-30xxB | |||||
- Meassuring units notes
- Watts = Amps * volts (or... Amps = Watts / Volts)
- There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared
- PS3 models missing in the table:
- CECHMxx 80GB <--- Toshiba MK8052GSX, or fujitsu MHZ2080BH, or hitachi HTS542580K9SA00 ?
- CECH-21xxA 120GB <--- toshiba MK1255GSX ?
- CECH-21xxB 250GB <--- toshiba MK2555GSX ?
- CECH-25xxA 120GB <--- toshiba MK1255GSX ?
- CECH-25xxB 250GB <--- toshiba MK2555GSX ?
- CECH-40xxA 12GB <--- Flash storage NAND ?
- CECH-40xxB 250GB <--- hitachi Travelstar (Z5K500 series) - HTS545025A7E380 (1 head), or toshiba MK2555GSX (old) ?
| Manufacturer | Series | Model | HDtune | HDtach | ATTO | PassMark | Notes/Links | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| min | max | average | access | burst | average | burst | access | write | read | score | |||||||||
| Fujitsu | MHW | MHW2040BH | 18 MB/s | 38 MB/s | 30 MB/s | ? | ? | 28.2 MB/s | 28.5 MB/s | 21.8 ms | 214 | www... | |||||||
| MHZ | MHZ2080BH | 13.6 MB/s | 61.8 MB/s | 46.0 MB/s | 18.3ms | 72.2 MB/s | 311 | www... | |||||||||||
| MHZ2160BH | 33.4 MB/s 15.4 MB/s 31.7 MB/s 6.7 MB/s 29.3 MB/s 27.8 MB/s |
68.2 MB/s 63.4 MB/s 63.1 MB/s 63.5 MB/s 60.2 MB/s 60.2 MB/s |
54.3 MB/s 50.4 MB/s 50.5 MB/s 46.1 MB/s 46.4 MB/s 46.9 MB/s |
17.2ms 17.4ms 17.3ms 19.3ms 21.9ms 17.4ms |
75.2 MB/s 75.7 MB/s 75.2 MB/s 71.5 MB/s 81.1 MB/s 66.3 MB/s |
57.3 MB/s | 77.3 MB/s | 17.3ms | 66444 KB/s | 64450 KB/s | 245 | HDtune Test 1 www... HDtune Test 2 www... HDtune Test 3 www... HDtune Test 4 www... HDtune Test 5 www... HDtune Test 6 www... | |||||||
| Hitachi | Travelstar 5K160 | HTS541640J9SA00 | 15.2 MB/s | 48.7 MB/s | 38.8 MB/s | 17.1 ms | 91.3 MB/s | 40.5 MB/s | 116.3 MB/s | 17.1 ms | 261 | www... | |||||||
| Travelstar 5K250 | HTS542580K9SA00 | 22.1 MB/s | 44.3 MB/s | 34.4 MB/s | 17.4ms | 77.0 MB/s | 36.0 MB/s | ? | 16.9ms | 226 | www... | ||||||||
| Travelstar 5K500 | HTS545012B9SA00 | 36.5 MB/s | 79.2 MB/s | 62.0 MB/s | 20.2ms | 99.9 MB/s | 363? | www... | |||||||||||
| Travelstar Z5K500 | HTS545050A7E380 | www... | |||||||||||||||||
| Seagate | Momentus 5400.2 | ST96812AS | 19.7 MB/s | 39.0 MB/s | 31.2 MB/s | 16.9 ms | 90.5 MB/s | 236 | www... | ||||||||||
| Momentus 5400.3 | ST980811AS | 23.6 MB/s | 53.2MB/s | 41,4 MB/s | 12.5 ms | 96.4 MB/s | 240 | www... | |||||||||||
| LD25 SATA | ST920217AS | 2.0 MB/s | 30.9 MB/s | 23,9 MB/s | 21.0 ms | 100.9 MB/s | 171 | www... | |||||||||||
| ST9402115AS | 182 | www... | |||||||||||||||||
| LD25 5400.2 | ST940210AS | 21.0 MB/s | 30.6 MB/s | 27.2 MB/s | 18.5ms | 22.8 MB/s | 34.8 MB/s | 88.1 MB/s | 16.6 ms | 234 | www... | ||||||||
| Toshiba | MKxx52GSX | MK8052GSX | 6.6 MB/s 9.7 MB/s |
61.2 MB/s 27.5 MB/s |
46.0 MB/s 24.3 MB/s |
18.1ms 19.1ms |
87.3 MB/s 24.7 MB/s |
326 | www... www... | ||||||||||
| MK1652GSX | 16.9 MB/s 20.1 MB/s 31.2 MB/s 20.5 MB/s |
61.8 MB/s 61.9 MB/s 61.8 MB/s 61.8 MB/s |
49.5 MB/s 48.7 MB/s 50.2 MB/s 47.2 MB/s |
18.1ms 18.0ms 18.7ms 18.1ms |
73.0 MB/s 72.8 MB/s 73.3 MB/s 76.7 MB/s |
50.6 MB/s | 151.8 MB/s | 18.1ms | 57604 KB/s | 61077 KB/s | 341 | www... www... www... www... | |||||||
| MKxx55GSX | MK1255GSX | 24.8 MB/s | 72.4 MB/s | 52.9 MB/s | 17.6ms | 74.3 MB/s | 395 | www... | |||||||||||
| MK2555GSX | www... | ||||||||||||||||||
| MKxx65GSX | MK1665GSX | 45.9 MB/s | 93.8 MB/s | 74.6 MB/s | 16.8ms | 203.6 MB/s | 77.3 MB/s | 242.6 MB/s | 16.7ms | 97969 KB/s | 93858 KB/s | www... | |||||||
| MK3265GSX | www... | ||||||||||||||||||
| MKxx76GSX | MK1676GSX | 46.0 MB/s | 96.7 MB/s | 76.6 MB/s | 16.2ms | 206.6 MB/s | www... | ||||||||||||
| MK3276GSX | 41.9 MB/s | 89.6 MB/s | 68.0 MB/s | 16.8ms | 143.2 MB/s | 516 | www... | ||||||||||||