Talk:Platform ID
Lv2 Platform identifier in Syscon firmware
This is a collection of the platform ids with their internal id which can be found in the syscon firmware
I would like to suggest to keep this list clean, avoiding adding any association with motherboards or PS3 models, to help keeping open mind, and trying to not bringing here posible "mistakes" from other wiki pages or any internet source to avoid taking things as "facts". Also, consider sony itself could have made some "mistake" or breking his own naming convention, as example labeling a prototype with a sticker telling "cytology" but returning "shreck" in the syscall that shows the platform_id. If someone wants to add some speculation crete a section at bottom of this page and post it there --Sandungas (talk) 16:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Mullion 0x10 Shr1.0 0x11 Shr1.1 0x12 Shr1.2 0x13 Shr-4D 0x14 Shr1.3 0x15 Shr-LC 0x16 Shr1.4 0x17 Shr1.5 0x20 Shr2.0 0x21 Shr2.1 0x22 Shr2.2 0x23 Shr2.3 0x24 Shr2.4 0x25 Shr2.5 0x26 Shr2.6 0x30 Shr3.0 0x31 Shr3.1 0x32 Shr3.2-4 0x33 Shr3.2 0x34 Shr3.3 0x40 Shr4.0 0x10000010 Cok01 0x10000020 Cok02 0x10000030 Cok03 0x10000050 Cok05 0x10000080 Cok08 0x100000B0 Cok11 0x100000C0 Cok12 0x100000D0 Cok13 0x100000E0 Cok14 0x10000100 CokB10 0x10000200 CokC10 0x10000201 CokC11 0x10000202 CokC12 0x10000300 CokD10 0x10000301 CokE10 0x10000301 Deb01 hardcoded 0x20000010 Cyt1.0 0x20000011 Cyt1.1 0x20000012 Cyt1.2 0x20000020 Cyt2.0 0x20000021 Cyt2.1 0x20000022 Cyt2.2 0x20000030 Cyt3.0 0x20000031 Cyt3.1 0x20000032 Cyt3.2 0x20000033 Cyt3.3 0x20000034 Cyt3.4 Sherwood 0x01 Cok11 0x02 Cok12 0x03 Cok13 0x04 Cok14 0x10 CokB10 0x20 CokC10 0x21 CokC11 0x22 CokC12 0x30 CokD10 0x40 CokE10 0x40 Deb01 hardcoded 0x50 CokF10 0x60 CokG10 0x61 CokG11 0x70 CokH10 0x71 CokH11 0x80 CokJ13 0x80 CokJ20 hardcoded 0x90 CokK10 0xB0 CokM20 0xB8 CokM40 0xA0 CokN10 0xA8 CokN30 ...
Speculation
Can't be proven atm, only for the COOKIE prototypes leading to the CECHAxx.
DEH-H1001-D -> 0xD = 13 -> ?Cok13? = COOKIE-13
DEH-H1000A-E -> 0xE = 14 -> Cok14 = COK-001 Prototype ?(COOKIE-14)?
Theory 1
- Shr = Shreck (CEB-10XX)
- Cyt = Cytology (CEB-20XX, DEH-R10XX, DECR-1000X)
- Cok = Cookie (DEH-H10XX, CBEH-10XX, DECHA, CECHA)
- Cyt2.2 = DEH-R100X / DEH-R101X / DEH-R102X
- Cyt3.1 = DEH-R103X
- Cyt3.2 = DEH-R104X / DECR-1000X
- Cok14 = DEH-H1000X / CECHA
Theory 2
Trying to assing the codenames above with prototypes models...
- SHRECK V2 series ? - There is an interesting coincidence in some of the platform_id version numbers and the numbers used in prototypes PS3 models, crosscheck with the info in: SKU_Models_Nonretail#Prototype_models
- SHRECK V1 series ? - Following this same numbering theory... then the prototype models preceding are:
- Shr1.0 -> CEB-1000 ?
- Shr1.1 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1010)
- Shr1.2 -> CEB-1020 ?
- Shr-1.3 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1030)
- Shr1.4 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1040)
- Shr1.5 -> undocumented / never found (theorethically a CEB-1050)
- CYTOLOGY V1 series ? - Also, this method matches with some prototypes for reference tool:
CYTOLOGY V2 series ? - The numbers doesnt matches in this ones, but just because in the sequence are located inmediatly after the previous prototypes for reference tool (and for completionism):
With this theory all the groups are assigned, but the question that emerges is... what happens with the platform_id for shreck v3 series (Shr3.0 Shr3.1 Shr3.2 Shr3.3), and shreck v4 series (Shr4.0 Shr-4D ShrLC) ?
Super Slims NOR vs eMMC
As explained here the circuit design of all superslim motherboards (7 motherboard models) allows to install either a NOR or a eMMC flash. If we assume the Platform ID of a specific motherboard changes based in his flash type (NOR or eMMC) we have a theoretical amount of 14 posible platform ID's for superslims
But... the fact that all the superslims allows to install a eMMC doesnt means that sony did in retail production in all them. As far i can see there are some superslim motherboards that was released only with a NOR (the eMMC variant of that specific motherboard model never was released)
This is very confusing actually, i guess at some point we will have a better understanding after some more reports, and if someone dumps and shares the syscon contents of the last PS3 model with M4j0r (because contains a list with the platform ID names from all the previous superslim PS3 models). Anyway... in the meantime im going to make a list with all the posible combinations to keep a record of which ones has been found to be real
Is relativelly easy to do if we find photos of them, even if the photo is blurry or have s small size, we just need to check the motherboard name and the presence of the NOR chip located next to the HDD connector (rectangled chip=NOR, squared chip=eMMC), if some of you find a photo or any other proof of the existence of them just post the link in this list
- 1
- MSX-001(NOR) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:MSX-001-top.jpg
- MSX-001(eMMC) - ? (never found)
- 2
- MPX-001(NOR) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:MPX-001-top.jpg
- MPX-001(eMMC) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:MPX-001_Front_%2812GB%29.jpg
- 3
- NPX-001(NOR) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:NPX-001_NOR_top_side.jpg
- NPX-001(eMMC) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:NPX-001_%28top_view%29.jpg
- 4
- PPX-001(NOR) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:PPX-001_1-888-615-12_main_componentside.png
- PPX-001(eMMC) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:PPX-001_eMMC_top_side.jpg
- 5
- PQX-001(NOR) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:PQX-001_NOR_top_side.jpg
- PQX-001(eMMC) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:PQX-001_Board.jpeg
- 6
- RTX-001(NOR) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:RTX-001_top.jpg
- RTX-001(eMMC) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:RTX-001_eMMC_top_side.jpg
- 7
- REX-001(NOR) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:REX-001_NOR_top_side.jpg
- REX-001(eMMC) - YES https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/File:REX-001-top.jpg
Some thoughts
Sony doesn't have all the platform ids inside the syscon firmware, sometimes they just overwrite the platform id using the "eeprom".
That's denoted as "hardcoded" here, which means that e.g. Syscon makes no difference between the CokE10 and Deb01 or CokJ13 and Cok20.
Also the last platform id which can be found in the latest syscon firware (304), ends at CokN30 which means all later boards are handled the same by Syscon and the platform id is just overwritten.
CokM20 Inside Syscon firmware CokM30 Dumped MPX-001 eMMC CokM40 Inside Syscon firmware CokN10 Inside Syscon firmware CokN30 Inside Syscon firmware CokP10 Dumped unknown CokP40 Dumped PPX-001 eMMC CokR30 Dumped unknown so CokX10, CokX20, CokX30, CokX40 ?
You can also see that there're 8 different Product Sub Codes for the Superslim: 0x0D, 0x0E, 0x0F, 0x10, 0x11, 0x12, 0x13, 0x14 - but only 7 boards?
The minimum support firmware (excluding the metldr enforced one) can be seen here and also the mapping to the Chassis ID.
There seem to be only 4 groups (4.15, 4.20, 4.40 and 4.50).
I just realized... if the CokP40 adds support for PPX-001 and PQX-001 it should be a SW3-304... so the next motherboards RTX-001 and REX-001 with platform ID's cokR30, etc... should be using a new syscon SW3-305--Sandungas (talk) 00:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)