Talk:Harddrive

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Need help getting data for the different SKU models and the default harddrive they are equiped with.

There is still some conflicting data to be sorted out, e.g.:

maximum size internal drive

The maximum size of the internal harddrive that the PS3 supports is 1TB (TeraBytes) 

note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB

Personal experience

Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle)
  • Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive".
  • When trying all the other Recovery Menu options it errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total
Conclusion
>1TB didn't not work.
Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM
  • Second try, using Service Mode
  • first replacing drive for original 120GB 2.5" and using Factory Service Mode to downgrade to lowest firmware the system can handle (2K slim -> FW 2.70)
  • Replaced for 1.5TB 3.5" drive and do exactly the same 2.70 again
  • Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
    • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues:
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G
  • Exit Factory Service Mode
    • Blank screen freeze when trying to boot to XMB in normal mode
  • Power off and try again gives "system software was not installed correct" error
  • inserted USB with 2.70 on normal location and START+SELECT button to let it reinstall
    • Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial.
  • Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity
Conclusion
>1TB didn't not work in normal or recovery mode only with FSM enabled.
Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking
  • Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • Entering Factory Service Mode with 1TB and let it reinstall via lv2diag results fine without errors: UPDATER_LOG.TXT
  • Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
    • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues (the '30 G' seems to be FSM related):
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G
  • Exit Factory Service Mode
  • No problems to get into XMB, and checking System Settings > System Information shows no size detection issues:
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       827GB / 931GB
Conclusion
<1TB works fine in all modi.

maximum size external drive

External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB

note: this seems untrue, because when >2TB drives have hit the market, no screenshots of >2TB external storage are known


Footnote: maximum supported drive space correlates to support of 512sector (either native, or emulated), see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format

AES-256-CBC versus AES-256-XTS

There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption.

Fact:

  • Sony/IBM loves AES
  • 256bit based
  • sectorsize 512 bytes (4096 bits)
  • blockcipher
  • recurring patterns are seen

Reference:

Experimental Tables

PS3 Hard Disk Drive, partitions and storage regions
HV
Storage
Region		 (Region) Name File System Usage Size(Sectors) Notes
OtherOS GameOS Official
(Encryption)		 Unnofficial Official Unnofficial Official Unnofficial
(3) ps3d No ? No Internal Storage Any Physical Device
(3.0) ps3da No ? No Physical partition, containing logical partitions Entire HDD
(3.1) ps3vflash No ? No Firmware Firmware &
Linux/FreeBSD		 256MB(524288) Any Virtual Device
Only in PS3's with NOR flash
(1) ps3vflasha No ? No Physical partition, containing logical partitions Entire VFLASH
(1.2) ps3vflashc dev_flash FAT16 ?(?) Firmware files 199 MB(409088)
(1.3) ps3vflashd dev_flash2 FAT16 ?(?) XRegistry 16 MB(32768)
(1.4) ps3vflashe dev_flash3 FAT12 ?(?) CRL/DRL 512KB (1024)
(1.5) ps3vflashf dev_flash4 ? ?(?) OtherOS OtherOS++ 4MB(8192) 8MB(16384) otheros.bld
(1.6) ps3vflashg dev_flash5 ? ?(?) ? ? 256KB (512) ?
(1.7) ps3vflashh dev_flash6 ? ?(?) ext2/3/4(No) Not used yet Linux/FreeBSD ? Any
(3.2) ps3db dev_hdd0 UFS2
(FAT:aes-cbc-192)
(SLIM:aes-xts-128)		 GameOS File System Any
(3.3) ps3dc dev_hdd1 FAT16(?) GameOS Cache 2047 MiB(4194296)
(3.4) ps3dd No ? ext2/3/4(No) OtherOS File System ? Only in firmware 3.15 or older
  • This table (pretends to) show all the posible partition layouts in all PS3 models, even when there are 2 big differences that changes partition positions (and consequently region names in Otheros/linux)
    • Flash type
      • NAND flash 256mb - All firmware is stored in real NAND flash
      • NOR flash 16mb - A small part of the firmware is stored in real NOR flash, and most of the firmware is stored in the first "virtual flash" (ps3vflash) partition in HDD (his position makes the other partitions to be displaced)
    • Otheros installation
      • OtherOS official - Linux/FreeBSD partition is added as the last partition of the HDD
      • OtherOS++ unofficial - Linux/FreeBSD is installed in the last partition of Vflash (the last partition of Vflash is resized conveniently)


Speed Tests (PS3)
Brand Series Model Linux GameOs
[hdparm -Tt] N/A
Cache read
(MB/s)		 Disk read
(MB/s)		 Link
Fujitsu MHW MHW2040BH N/A
MHZ MHZ2080BH N/A
MHZ2160BH N/A
Hitachi Travelstar 5K160 HTS541640J9SA00 N/A
Travelstar 5K250 HTS542580K9SA00 N/A
Travelstar 5K500 HTS545012B9SA00 N/A
Travelstar Z5K500 HTS545050A7E380 N/A
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST96812AS N/A
Momentus 5400.3 ST980811AS N/A
LD25 SATA ST920217AS N/A
ST9402115AS N/A
LD25 5400.2 ST940210AS N/A
Toshiba MKxx52GSX MK8052GSX N/A
MK1652GSX N/A
MKxx55GSX MK1255GSX N/A
MK2555GSX N/A
MKxx65GSX MK1665GSX N/A
MK3265GSX N/A
MKxx76GSX MK1676GSX N/A
MK3276GSX N/A

Phat NAND HDD Entropy Table (After zerofill,no vflash)

Start Offset End Offset Size Description
0x0000 0x1000 0x1000 Header
0x4000 0x16000 0x12000 unknown
0x18000 0x28000 0x10000 unknown

file

Slim NOR HDD Data Table (After zerofill,vflash)

Start Offset End Offset Size Description
0x0 0x2000 0x2000 Header
0x4400 0x8118240 please fill unk
0x8119000 0x8149960 please fill unk
0x814B000 0x8152CB0 please fill unk
0x8153000 0x81530C0 please fill unk
0x8155000 0x8159B10 please fill unk
0x815B000 0x815E3D0 please fill unk
0x815F000 0x8166190 please fill unk
0x8167000 0x817B750 please fill unk
0x817D000 0x817D5C0 please fill unk
0x817F000 0x818A500 please fill unk
0x818B000 0x818CDC0 please fill unk
0x818D000 0x81C9F10 please fill unk
0x81CB000 0x81D1FD0 please fill unk
0x81D3000 0x81D9E20 please fill unk
0x81DB000 0x81DB1B0 please fill unk
0x81DD000 0x81DD0A0 please fill unk
0x81DF000 0x81DF090 please fill unk
0x81E1000 0x81E1080 please fill unk
0x81E3000 0x81E3090 please fill unk
0x81E5000 0x81E50A0 please fill unk
0x81E7000 0x81E70A0 please fill unk
0x81E9000 0x81E9090 please fill unk
0x81EB000 0x81F4CD0 please fill unk


  • There is actual readable data near the end of the disk, so this has been renamed to Data Table instead of Entropy Table
  • The table is incomplete, please help filling it.
  • the dump and key
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