Talk:Harddrive

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Need help getting data for the different SKU models and the default harddrive they are equiped with.

There is still some conflicting data to be sorted out, e.g.:

maximum size internal drive

The maximum size of the internal harddrive that the PS3 supports is 1TB (TeraBytes) 

note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB

Personal experience

Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle)
  • Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive".
  • When trying all the other Recovery Menu options it errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total
Conclusion
>1TB didn't not work.
Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM
  • Second try, using Service Mode
  • first replacing drive for original 120GB 2.5" and using Factory Service Mode to downgrade to lowest firmware the system can handle (2K slim -> FW 2.70)
  • Replaced for 1.5TB 3.5" drive and do exactly the same 2.70 again
  • Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
    • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues:
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G
  • Exit Factory Service Mode
    • Blank screen freeze when trying to boot to XMB in normal mode
  • Power off and try again gives "system software was not installed correct" error
  • inserted USB with 2.70 on normal location and START+SELECT button to let it reinstall
    • Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial.
  • Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity
Conclusion
>1TB didn't not work in normal or recovery mode only with FSM enabled.
Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking
  • Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • Entering Factory Service Mode with 1TB and let it reinstall via lv2diag results fine without errors: UPDATER_LOG.TXT
  • Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
    • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues (the '30 G' seems to be FSM related):
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G
  • Exit Factory Service Mode
  • No problems to get into XMB, and checking System Settings > System Information shows no size detection issues:
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       827GB / 931GB
Conclusion
<1TB works fine in all modi.

maximum size external drive

External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB

note: this seems untrue, because when >2TB drives have hit the market, no screenshots of >2TB external storage are known


Footnote: maximum supported drive space correlates to support of 512sector (either native, or emulated), see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format


AES-256-CBC versus AES-256-XTS

There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption.

Fact:

  • Sony/IBM loves AES
  • 256bit based
  • sectorsize 512 bytes (4096 bits)
  • blockcipher
  • recurring patterns are seen

Reference:




Experimental Tables

PS3 Hard Disk Drive, partitions and storage regions
Storage
Region
Name File
System
Usage Size Notes
OtherOS GameOS Official Unnofficial Official Unnofficial
1 ps3vflash No No Firmware Firmware & Linux/FreeBSD 256MB Any Only in PS3 Slim
1 ps3vflasha No No Physicall partition, containing logicall partitions notes
2 ps3vflashc dev_flash FAT16 ? Firmware files 199 MB (409088) notes
3 ps3vflashd dev_flash2 FAT16 ? XRegistry 16 MB (32768) notes
4 ps3vflashe dev_flash3 FAT12 ? CRL/DRL 1024 KB ? notes
5 ps3vflashf dev_flash4 ? ? OtherOS OtherOS++ 4MB (4194304) 16MB (16384) otheros.bld
6 ps3vflashg dev_flash5 ? ? ? ? 512 KB ? ? notes
7 ps3vflashh dev_flash6 ? ? Not used yet Linux/FreeBSD ? Any notes
2 ps3db dev_hdd0 UFS2 GameOS File System Any notes
3 ps3dc ? FAT GameOS Cache 2047 MiB (4194296) notes
4 ps3dd No ? Several OtherOS File System ? Only in PS3 Fat




Speed Tests (PS3)
Brand Series Model Linux GameOs
[hdparm -Tt] N/A
Cache read
(MB/s)
Disk read
(MB/s)
Link
Fujitsu MHW MHW2040BH N/A
MHZ MHZ2080BH N/A
MHZ2160BH N/A
Hitachi Travelstar 5K160 HTS541640J9SA00 N/A
Travelstar 5K250 HTS542580K9SA00 N/A
Travelstar 5K500 HTS545012B9SA00 N/A
Travelstar Z5K500 HTS545050A7E380 N/A
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST96812AS N/A
Momentus 5400.3 ST980811AS N/A
LD25 SATA ST920217AS N/A
ST9402115AS N/A
LD25 5400.2 ST940210AS N/A
Toshiba MKxx52GSX MK8052GSX N/A
MK1652GSX N/A
MKxx55GSX MK1255GSX N/A
MK2555GSX N/A
MKxx65GSX MK1665GSX N/A
MK3265GSX N/A
MKxx76GSX MK1676GSX N/A
MK3276GSX N/A