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* Retail based motherboards, without WiFi/BT
* PS3 Retail based motherboards, without WiFi/BT
* Arcade machines do not have a BD Drive ( The games are installed via USB <!--/ HDD Exchange-->)
* Arcade machines do not have a BD Drive (The games comes preinstalled in the HDD and paired to a dongle)
* They do have 1x HDMI, 1x VGA & 1x JAMMA (JVS) output
* The case is a big clunky square box
* [[Target ID]] is A0 / {{ARC}}
* [[Target ID]] is A0 / {{ARC}}
 
* The case is a big clunky square box called "rack assy": S357-07J Assy, S357B-08J / E Assy, S357C-10J Assy, S357C-11E Assy, or S369C-11J / E Assy
*Namco.uk cabinet manuals: http://namco.co.uk/bandainamcogames/technical-manuals/namco.html and http://www.namco.co.uk/PDF-manuals/namco-manuals/
* They do have 2 additional boards manufactured by namco: 1x I/O board, 1x JVS board (JAMMA v2 standards)
*overview of servicing: http://home.gamer.com.tw/creationDetail.php?sn=860018
* Namco.uk cabinet manuals: http://namco.co.uk/bandainamcogames/technical-manuals/namco.html and http://www.namco.co.uk/PDF-manuals/namco-manuals/
* Overview of servicing: http://home.gamer.com.tw/creationDetail.php?sn=860018


== Game List ==
== Game List ==
Sources:
* http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Namco_System_357 /
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namco_System_357 <!--/ Mantained: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AosMKkiiS99_dE9tUWVIanZhcDBWVlBDeXlDdVpEZ3c&authkey=CMz7i8cO&hl=en#gid=1 system246/256 = playstation2 hw  -->
S357-07J Assy, S357B-08J / E Assy, S357C-10J Assy, S357C-11E Assy, or S369C-11J / E Assy


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*"Live monitor" tekken software versions are not playables... are "demo" machines that displays "real live gameplay" from network. See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB4hrNrMenE
*"Live monitor" tekken software versions are not playables... are "demo" machines that displays "real live gameplay" from network. See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB4hrNrMenE
*The dongles for this "live monitor" versions are black ?, and the contents of the HDD are different, but the rest of the hardware is similar
*The dongles for this "live monitor" versions are black ?, and the contents of the HDD are different, but the rest of the hardware is similar
*Sources:
** http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Namco_System_357 /
** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namco_System_357 <!--/ Mantained: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AosMKkiiS99_dE9tUWVIanZhcDBWVlBDeXlDdVpEZ3c&authkey=CMz7i8cO&hl=en#gid=1 system246/256 = playstation2 hw  -->


== Dongle ==
== Game Dongles and HDDs ==
<!--/ innacurate (but very apreciated) dongle/hdd info from:
<!--/ innacurate (but very apreciated) dongle/hdd info from:
http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=19892
http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=19892
http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_%3A_Bloodline_Rebellion_upgrade_kit_7858.html
http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_%3A_Bloodline_Rebellion_upgrade_kit_7858.html
http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_kit_7205.html
http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/pcbs/system_357/Tekken_6_kit_7205.html
Note there is a jamma board photo in this web but doesnt seems to have the same connectors that can be see in the system 357 back photos (maybe is a replacement)
There is also a western digital hdd, but sony never used western digital hdd's in retail models (but it has a "namco" sticker so probably is real because this hdds comes "loaded" with the game... this means namco uses his own hdd supplyers)
-->
-->


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== 357C (GECR-1500?) [[VER-00x|VER-001]] ==
== 357C (GECR-1500?) [[VER-00x|VER-001]] ==


== NAMCO JAMMA and I/O boards ==
== NAMCO JVS and I/O boards ==
I/O board is connected to JVS board, the inputs of the I/O board (buttons, stick, credit slot) are sent to the JVS board and then to the PS3 board by a USB cable. Video signal from "PS3 board" to "JVS board" is sent with a "AV MultiOUT" cable, and then to the cabinet display using a VGA connector
 
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File:System357_back_JAMMAconnectors.jpg|JAMMA board connectors/placement<BR />Note the inputs of the JAMMA board (buttons, stick, credit slot) are sent to the PS3 board by a USB cable (not visible in this photo).<BR />Video signal from "PS3 board" to "JAMMA board is sent with a AV MultiOUT" cable
File:System357_back_JAMMAconnectors.jpg|Boards connectors/placement
File:Jamma_JVS_diagram.png|JAMMA JVS Block Diagram
File:Jamma_JVS_diagram.png|"Peripherals", "I/O board" and "JVS Board" Block Diagram
File:JAMMA Functional Diagram.jpg|JAMMA Functional Diagram
File:JAMMA Functional Diagram.jpg|JAMMA Functional Diagram
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JVS, or Jamma Video Standard (sometimes even called JAMMA 2), is an updated version of JAMMA created in the late 90’s by an special sub-committee consisting of the major arcade game manufacturers. http://www.jamma.or.jp/


JAMMA Video Standard (or JVS) is an updated version of JAMMA created in the late 90’s.
JVS specifies the type of connectors to use for video (HD-15, commonly known as a VGA), audio (RCA) and power (JST VL), in addition to the communications protocol between the game board and the I/O board.  In contrast to (old) JAMMA, JVS concentrates I/O functions in a separate board.
 
JVS uses an HD-15 type video connection (commonly known as a VGA connector, although VGA is a resolution), stereo RCA audio connections, JST_VL power connections with 3.3V.
 
Controls are handled via an I/O PCB within the cabinet which connects to the game hardware by an USB cable - it's only the physical cable that's USB, and the signals have nothing in common with USB at all.


See: http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/JVS
See: http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/JVS and http://jvspac.kirurg.org/


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*JAMMA board used in system357a has:
Namco System357 boards connectors:
**TOP row (from left to right)
*I/O board (at top, from left to right)
***1 connector (in white) with 24 pins
**1 connector (in white) with 24 pins
***8 dipswitches (in black/red) -> (2nd dip is for enabling 31KHz)
**8 dipswitches (in black/red) -> (2nd dip is for enabling 31KHz)
***1 connector (in white) with 10 pins
**1 connector (in white) with 10 pins
**BOTTOM row (from left to right)
*JVS board (at bottom, from left to right)
***JV I/O (JAMMA) interface
**JV I/O (JAMMA) interface
***DC IN 12v (this voltage is needed for the JVS board to work)
**DC IN ?? <!--// seems to be 3.3v in the JVS standard, but is stated as 12v in some webs //-->
***VGA
**VGA
***left speaker RCA connector
**left speaker RCA connector
***right speaker RCA connector
**right speaker RCA connector


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*Note the references to system357 in "Deadstorm Pirates" and "Razing Storm" manuals.pdf, and the pictures of the connectors that can help to identify motherboards/models
*Note the references to system357 in "Deadstorm Pirates" and "Razing Storm" manuals.pdf, and the pictures of the connectors that can help to identify motherboards/models
**Picture in razing storm manual.pdf - (section 5.5 "inserting the dongle")... the connectors matches with a system357b (VER001 motherboard)... but there is no JAMMA board/connections
**Picture in razing storm manual.pdf - (section 5.5 "inserting the dongle")... the connectors matches with a system357b (VER001 motherboard)... but there is no JVS and I/O boards
**It seems the newer system357 models (system357c ?) doesnt have/use a JAMMA board, has been replaced by a "USB I/O PCB" (in page 50 and 94 in razing storm manual and the photo of "357b/c connection diagram" above), with a hardware identifyer "US1001" and/or "USIO01"
**It seems the newer system357 models (system357c ?) doesnt have/use a JVS and I/O boards, has been replaced by a "USB I/O PCB" (in page 50 and 94 in razing storm manual and the photo of "357b/c connection diagram" above), with a hardware identifyer "US1001" and/or "USIO01"


*Deadstorm Pirates
*Deadstorm Pirates
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Used to connect JVS devices to JAMMA cabinets (older), home made cabinets, or for service/repair purposes. This converters are not present in Namco cabinets but are listed here as usefull tools or related hardware
Used to connect JVS devices to JAMMA cabinets (older), home made cabinets, or for service/repair purposes. This converters are not present in Namco cabinets but are listed here as usefull tools or related hardware
*Capcom I/O JAMMA converter http://www.solvalou.com/arcade_naomicapcom.php
*Capcom I/O JAMMA converter http://www.solvalou.com/arcade_naomicapcom.php
1 - Power output (supplies power to the motherboard)
*Connectors
2 - VGA in (video, standard or high resolution, no medium resolution)
**1 - Power output (supplies power to the motherboard)
3 - USB in (for controls)
**2 - VGA in (video, standard or high resolution, no medium resolution)
4 - RCA in (audio)
**3 - USB in (for controls)
5 - Volume adjustment
**4 - RCA in (audio)
6 - Capcom kick harness (unlike Sega IOs, Capcom IO does not use "unmapped" JAMMA pins for extra buttons, you must use this connector instead. Also, you connect 3P and 4P controls here)
**5 - Volume adjustment
7 - JAMMA (connect your cabinet here)
**6 - Capcom kick harness (unlike Sega IOs, Capcom IO does not use "unmapped" JAMMA pins for extra buttons, you must use this connector instead. Also, you connect 3P and 4P controls here)
**7 - JAMMA (connect your cabinet here)


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= Namco System 369 =
= Namco System 369 =
<Gallery>
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File:Namco System 36911J.jpg|Namco System 369 - back (with JAMMA board v2)
File:Namco System 36911J.jpg|Namco System 369 - back
File:Namco System 369 - Accessories.jpg|Namco System 369 - Accessories
File:Namco System 369 - Accessories.jpg|Namco System 369 - Accessories
File:Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2.jpg|Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2
File:Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2.jpg|Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2
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* Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with [[DYN-00x]] (CECH-20xx), and [[SUR-00x]] (CECH-21xx) or later [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]]
* Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with [[DYN-00x]] (CECH-20xx), and [[SUR-00x]] (CECH-21xx) or later [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]]
* Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JAMMA board or IO board
* Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board


== 369 (GECR-2500) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] ==
== 369 (GECR-2500) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] ==


== 369 (GECR-2500CU1) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]]  ==
== 369 (GECR-2500CU1) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]]  ==

Revision as of 19:24, 26 April 2013


Namco System - Common

  • Namco Tekken 6 live monitor

    Namco Tekken 6 live monitor

  • Namco Tekken 6 standard

    Namco Tekken 6 standard

  • Namco Tekken 6 advertisement Left: Standard version Right: Live Monitor version

    Namco Tekken 6 advertisement
    Left: Standard version
    Right: Live Monitor version

  • Namco System 357

    Namco System 357

Game List

English Name Japanese Name Publisher Year 357 A
S357-07J		 357 B
S357B-08J		 357 C
S357C-10J
S357C-11E		 369
S369C-11J
S369C-11E		 Dongle HDD Dualshock Comp Website Notes
Deadstorm Pirates ? Namco 2010 ? ? Yes ? ? ? ? [Website] [Service Manual.pdf]
Dragon Ball Zenkai Battle Royal ? Namco 2011 ? ? Yes ? ? ? ? [Website]
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. ? Namco 2010 ? ? Yes ? ? ? ? [Website]
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. Full Boost ? Namco 2012 ? ? Yes ? ? ? ? [Website]
Razing Storm ? Namco 2008 Yes Yes Yes ? ? ? ? [Website] [Service Manual.pdf]
Taiko No Tatsujin New Cabinets ? Namco 2011 ? ? Yes ? ? ? ? [Website]
Taiko No Tatsujin New Housing ? Namco 2012 ? ? Yes ? ? ? ? [Website]
Taiko No Tatsujin March 2013 ? Namco 2013 ? ? Yes ? ? ? ? [Website]
Tekken 6 鉄拳６ Namco 2007 Yes Yes Yes ? TE61 TE61001-NA-HDD0-A ? [Website]
Tekken 6 Live Monitor 鉄拳６ライブモニター用 Namco 2007 Yes Yes Yes ? TE6L TE61001-LM-HDD0-A ? [Website]
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion 鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION Namco 2008 Yes Yes Yes ? T6B1 ? T6B1001-NA-HDD0-A ? [Website]
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion Live Monitor 鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION ライブモニター用 Namco 2008 Yes Yes Yes ? T6BL T6B1001-LM-HDD0-A ? [Website]
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 ? Namco 2011 ? ? ? Yes ? ? ? [Website]
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited ? Namco 2012 ? ? ? Yes ? ? ? [Website]

Game Dongles and HDDs

  • Tekken 6 dongle (TE61)

    Tekken 6 dongle
    (TE61)

  • Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion dongle (T6B2)

    Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion dongle
    (T6B2)

ARC USB stick, with multipartitions and serial datasheet: http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0CKSQ0PA/ARC-memorystick_-_32_nm_UDRW_G4_specification.pdf_links

Bana Passport

Bana Passport main site

  • Bana Passport - Transfer/Copy Procedure

    Bana Passport - Transfer/Copy Procedure


Namco System 357

357A (GECR-1100) COK-002

System357A GECR-1100 (Tekken 6)

  • System357A - CELL

    System357A - CELL

  • System357A - RSX

    System357A - RSX

  • System357A - SouthBridge

    System357A - SouthBridge

  • System357A - Motherboard Detail pic

    System357A - Motherboard Detail pic

  • System357A - Motherboard Overview

    System357A - Motherboard Overview

  • System357A - Motherboard Overview2

    System357A - Motherboard Overview2

  • System357A - white sticker

    System357A - white sticker

  • System357A - behind

    System357A - behind

  • System357A - behind2

    System357A - behind2

  • System357A - top

    System357A - top

  • System357A - top uncovered

    System357A - top uncovered

  • System357A - side

    System357A - side

  • System357A - external

    System357A - external

source: Diverse

  • Namco System 357A - overview

    Namco System 357A - overview

  • Namco System 357A - topback

    Namco System 357A - topback

  • Namco System 357A - usbports

    Namco System 357A - usbports

  • Namco System 357A - io ports

    Namco System 357A - io ports

  • Namco System 357A - back 12V input

    Namco System 357A - back 12V input

Source: http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22062

357B (GECR-1500) VER-001

System 357B (GECR-1500) inside picures :

  • Namco System 357B - TopBack

    Namco System 357B - TopBack

  • System357b - RSX

    System357b - RSX

  • System357b - Bottom

    System357b - Bottom

  • System357b - Top

    System357b - Top

  • System357b - Tray

    System357b - Tray

  • Arcade - Motherboard Overview

    Arcade - Motherboard Overview

  • Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic1

    Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic1

  • Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic2

    Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic2

  • Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic3

    Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic3

  • Namco System357b/c connection diagram

    Namco System357b/c connection diagram

357C (GECR-1500?) VER-001

NAMCO JVS and I/O boards

I/O board is connected to JVS board, the inputs of the I/O board (buttons, stick, credit slot) are sent to the JVS board and then to the PS3 board by a USB cable. Video signal from "PS3 board" to "JVS board" is sent with a "AV MultiOUT" cable, and then to the cabinet display using a VGA connector

  • Boards connectors/placement

    Boards connectors/placement

  • "Peripherals", "I/O board" and "JVS Board" Block Diagram

    "Peripherals", "I/O board" and "JVS Board" Block Diagram

  • JAMMA Functional Diagram

    JAMMA Functional Diagram

JVS, or Jamma Video Standard (sometimes even called JAMMA 2), is an updated version of JAMMA created in the late 90’s by an special sub-committee consisting of the major arcade game manufacturers. http://www.jamma.or.jp/

JVS specifies the type of connectors to use for video (HD-15, commonly known as a VGA), audio (RCA) and power (JST VL), in addition to the communications protocol between the game board and the I/O board. In contrast to (old) JAMMA, JVS concentrates I/O functions in a separate board.

See: http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/JVS and http://jvspac.kirurg.org/

Namco System357 boards connectors:

  • I/O board (at top, from left to right)
    • 1 connector (in white) with 24 pins
    • 8 dipswitches (in black/red) -> (2nd dip is for enabling 31KHz)
    • 1 connector (in white) with 10 pins
  • JVS board (at bottom, from left to right)
    • JV I/O (JAMMA) interface
    • DC IN ??
    • VGA
    • left speaker RCA connector
    • right speaker RCA connector
  • Note the references to system357 in "Deadstorm Pirates" and "Razing Storm" manuals.pdf, and the pictures of the connectors that can help to identify motherboards/models
    • Picture in razing storm manual.pdf - (section 5.5 "inserting the dongle")... the connectors matches with a system357b (VER001 motherboard)... but there is no JVS and I/O boards
    • It seems the newer system357 models (system357c ?) doesnt have/use a JVS and I/O boards, has been replaced by a "USB I/O PCB" (in page 50 and 94 in razing storm manual and the photo of "357b/c connection diagram" above), with a hardware identifyer "US1001" and/or "USIO01"
  • Deadstorm Pirates
HDD CHECK
MEDIA SYSTEM357 HDD
----------------------
I/O PCB CHECK
I/O PCB : Connect OK
NBGI.;USIO01;VerX.XX;JPN,Mulitipurpose with PPG
----------------------
OTHERS
ROM DSP100-2-NA-MPR0-BXX
CLOCK 01/01/2010 FRI 08:11:24
S/N 76C0D0-9XXXXX
SYSTEM SW Ver. 250.XXX
CABINET TYPE SD
LANGUAGE ENG
ATTRACT CUT OFF
RATING OFF
HDD CHECK
CLOCK SETTING
BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE
  • Razing Storm
DRIVE CHECK
MEDIA  SYSTEM357 HD
----------------------
I/O TEST
I/O PCB : CONNECT OK
BNGI. : US1001 : Ver 1.00 : JPN,Multipurpose with PPG
----------------------
OTHERS
ROM  RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A
CLOCK  09/29/2008 (MON) 22 : 12 : 44
S/N  000000-123456
LANGUAGE  ENG
VOICE  ENG
HD CHECK
BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE


JVS to JAMMA converters

Used to connect JVS devices to JAMMA cabinets (older), home made cabinets, or for service/repair purposes. This converters are not present in Namco cabinets but are listed here as usefull tools or related hardware

  • Capcom I/O JAMMA converter http://www.solvalou.com/arcade_naomicapcom.php
  • Connectors
    • 1 - Power output (supplies power to the motherboard)
    • 2 - VGA in (video, standard or high resolution, no medium resolution)
    • 3 - USB in (for controls)
    • 4 - RCA in (audio)
    • 5 - Volume adjustment
    • 6 - Capcom kick harness (unlike Sega IOs, Capcom IO does not use "unmapped" JAMMA pins for extra buttons, you must use this connector instead. Also, you connect 3P and 4P controls here)
    • 7 - JAMMA (connect your cabinet here)
  • Namco System 357A - connected to a "Capcom I/O JAMMA converter"

    Namco System 357A - connected to a "Capcom I/O JAMMA converter"

  • Capcom IO JAMMA converter.jpg
  • Sega ?? (it seems there are at least 2 sega "JVS to JAMMA coverters" compatibles)


Namco System 369

  • Namco System 369 - back

    Namco System 369 - back

  • Namco System 369 - Accessories

    Namco System 369 - Accessories

  • Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2

    Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2

source for above: https://www.rinkya.com/en/auction-k159839038

  • System 36911J - Tekken Tag 2 - Cabinet

    System 36911J - Tekken Tag 2 - Cabinet

  • System 36911J - overview

    System 36911J - overview

  • System 36911J - topback

    System 36911J - topback

  • System 36911J - dongles

    System 36911J - dongles

  • System 36911J - top

    System 36911J - top

  • System_36911J - top_sticker bottomright

    System_36911J - top_sticker bottomright

  • System 36911J - top sticker topright

    System 36911J - top sticker topright

  • System 36911J - back

    System 36911J - back

source for above: http://akihabaraarcade.blogspot.nl/2013/01/tekken-tag-tournament-2-unlimited.html

  • Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with DYN-00x (CECH-20xx), and SUR-00x (CECH-21xx) or later JTP-001/JSD-001
  • Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board

369 (GECR-2500) JTP-001/JSD-001

369 (GECR-2500CU1) JTP-001/JSD-001

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