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=== Temperatures commonly seen ===
=== Temperatures commonly seen ===
Note: PS3 manual explicitly states:
Ambient :: Operating temperature 5°C - 35°C (41°F - 95°F)"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|-
! CPU !! RSX !! Model !! Activity
! CPU !! RSX !! Model !! Activity
|-
|-
| 56 || 59 || CECHL01 (CFW 4.89 EVILNAT) || 40% FAN SPEED COMSTANT VIA WEBMAN MOD BOTH CHIPS WERE DELIDDED MX-4 AND NOCTUA NH-T1 WERE USED ON THE DIES AND IHS TEMPS WERE AFTER 2 HOURS 40 MINS OF SITTING AT THE LAST OF US START MENU
| 70 || 64 ||   
|-
| 61 || 62 || CHECHA01) (CFW 4.85 REBUG LITE) || (38% FAN SPEED CONSTANT XMB + IN GAME) (ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition)
|-
| 66 || 64 || CHECHA00) (CFW 4.86.1 REBUG LITE) || After two hour gaming on Portal 2, 25% Fan Speed. Liquid Metal under IHS, Kryonaut on IHS. (Fan@38 is 54c)
|-
| 68 || 70 || CECH2001A (CFW 4.84.2 REX/D-REX Rebug) || 5 Minutes Idle/In Game @ 50% Fan Speed (Ambient ?, IHS Original)(ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition)
|-
| 62 || 65 || CECH2001A (CFW 4.84.2 REX/D-REX Rebug) || 5 Minutes Idle/In Game  @ 65% Fan Speed (Ambient ?, IHS Original)(ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition)
|-
| 59 || 68 || CECH2001B (CFW 4.87 CEX Cobra 8.2) || 1 hour God of War III In game @ 46% Fan Speed (Ambient 76F, IHS Original)(ARCTIC MX-5 20?? Edition)
|-
| 78 || 74 || CECHG01 || 3 hours of Last of Us (Ambient 30°C, IHS fix)
|-
| 73 || 66 || CECHG01 || 3 hours of Fallout 3 (Ambient 26°C, IHS fix)
|-
| 70 || 63 || CECHG01 || 1 hour movie in Movian (Ambient 26°C, IHS fix)
|-
| 66 || 60 || CECHG01 || 1 hour idle in Movian (Ambient 26°C, IHS fix)
|-
| 73 || 66 || CECHL04 || Hours of Ratchet gaming (Ambient 26°C, no IHS fix, fan speed 28%)
|-
| 75 || 60 || CECHG04 || Hours of Ratchet gaming (Ambient 24°C, IHS fix, fan speed 38%)
|-
| 67 || 66 || CECH2508 || After one hour gaming
|-
|-
| 48 || 51 || CECH2501A || idle
| 48 || 51 || CECH2501A || idle
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|-
|-
| 70 || || CECH2501A || 5minutes idle with temp tool
| 70 || || CECH2501A || 5minutes idle with temp tool
|-
| 70 || || || 
|-
|-
| 45 || 50 || CECH2501A || idle
| 45 || 50 || CECH2501A || idle
|-
|-
| 60 || 65 || CECH2501A || after 1h gaming
| 60 || 65 || CECH2501A || after 1h gaming
|-
| 70 || 73 || || just turned on
|-
|-
| 82 || 68 || 40GB FAT || after 20min use
| 82 || 68 || 40GB FAT || after 20min use
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|-
| 61 || 68 || CECH2004B || after gaming with extra cooling
| 61 || 68 || CECH2004B || after gaming with extra cooling
|-
| 65 || 69 || CECH2004B || while playing Tekken Tag 2 for 30 mins (40% fan speed, stock thermal paste, ambient 29°C)
|-
|-
| 37 || 42 || CECHC04 || after coldboot
| 37 || 42 || CECHC04 || after coldboot
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|-
|-
| 62 || 62 || CECH2503B || after using mmCM a while
| 62 || 62 || CECH2503B || after using mmCM a while
|-
| 34 || 27 || CECH2504B || coldboot
|-
| 58 || 58 || CECH2504B || idle
|-
| 70 || 72 || CECH2504B || after 2 hours of gaming
|-
|-
| 62 || 54 || CECHC03 || idle in multiman
| 62 || 54 || CECHC03 || idle in multiman
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| 45 || 50 || CECH25xx || idle in multiman
| 45 || 50 || CECH25xx || idle in multiman
|-
|-
| 42 || 46 || CECH30xx || 30 min idle in XMB, fancontroller on 50%
| 71 || 56 || CECHG03 ||  
|-
|-
| 71 || 56 || CECHG03 ||  
| 70 || 50 || FAT ||
|-
|-
| 73 || 67 || CECHA01 || after 30min gaming
| 73 || 67 || CECHA01 || after 30min gaming
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|-
|-
| 66 || 68 || CECH-25xx || after45min gaming
| 66 || 68 || CECH-25xx || after45min gaming
|-
| 67 || 57 || 40GB || idle
|-
|-
| 57 || 48 || 40GB FAT || idle
| 57 || 48 || 40GB FAT || idle
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|-
|-
|59 || 59 || CECH2002A || idle in multiman, horizontal
|59 || 59 || CECH2002A || idle in multiman, horizontal
|-
| 74 || 68 || CECH02 || idle in multiman, horizontal
|-
| 64 || 56 || CECH02 || idle in multiman, horizontal
|-
|-
| 34 || 27 || CECHL04 || coldboot with dualfan 80mm mod
| 34 || 27 || CECHL04 || coldboot with dualfan 80mm mod
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|-
|-
| 63 || 55 || CECHH01 || after 2h gaming
| 63 || 55 || CECHH01 || after 2h gaming
|-
| 63 || 66 ||
|-
|-
| 65 || 54 || CECHC03 || after 1h idle in multiman
| 65 || 54 || CECHC03 || after 1h idle in multiman
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| 72 || 62 || CECHA01 || idle 30min in multiman
| 72 || 62 || CECHA01 || idle 30min in multiman
|-
|-
| 58 || 62 || CECHK03 (CFW 4.90 EVILNAT RSX OC) || 30m idle on XMB after 2 hours of Soulcalibur IV, Horizontal, webMAN Dynamic fan mode 24% speed, Arctic MX-4, eraser mod, no delid, 409 Days Total Usage.
|-
| 70 || 64 || CECHK04 || After 2H Playing Gran turismo 6
|-
| 54 || 57 || CECH-2504A 0D || About 2H of GT6. Drilled holes above the fan, MX4 TIM.
|-
| 50 || 47 || CECHA01 || idle 30min in multiman. Thermal Artic Silver 5. Fan 29%
|-
| 68 || 68 || CECH2504 || 1 hour XMB idle, fan 28% (0x48), ambient 23°C. Stock IHS, generic thermal grease.
|-
| 59 || 62 || CECHC04 || After 1h RDR, fan 35% , ambient temp 21°C. Stock IHS, Arctic MX-2 thermal paste and eraser mod.
|-
| 60 || 65 || CECH2004 || 30m XMB idle after 2h PS2 emulator (Mafia). Syscon fan, final speed 28% (0x48), ambient 22°C, CELL delid, GD900 thermal grease.
|-
| 55 || 61 || CECH2001A || Gran Turismo 5&6 Constant Party Usage@6hr23mins, Final in-game reading, 22°C Room, Full Internal Clean, No Delid, MX-6 Paste, Gelid Ultimate [email protected], 40% Fan Speed, 870 EVO SSD, EvilNat 4.90, 1924 Days Total Usage, ON 6521/OFF 6442
|-
| 49 || 52 || CECH2001A || 30m XMB idle (horizontal), Full Internal Clean, No Delid, MX-6 Paste, Gelid Ultimate [email protected], Constant 40% Fan Speed, 870 EVO SSD, EvilNat 4.89, 1647 Days Total Usage.
|-
| 47 || 49 || CECH2001A || 30m XMB idle, Placed 4 1.3 inch higher feet under bottom (horizontal), 20 Celcius Room, Full Internal Clean, No Delid, MX-6 Paste, Gelid Ultimate [email protected], Constant 40% Fan Speed, 870 EVO SSD, EvilNat 4.89, 1649 Days Total Usage.
|-
| 58 || 62 || CECH2004 || 30m XMB idle after 2h The Evil Within gameplay. Syscon fan, final speed 28% (0x48), ambient 22°C, CELL and RSX delid, GD900 thermal grease.
|-
| 57 || 62 || CECHC04|| 30m The Last Of Us. Fan (19 blades) speed 35%. Room temperature 23-24°C. Cell isn't delided and the RSX is. MX-4 on both CELL and RSX. There is liquid metal between the RSX IHS and the die.
|-
| 40 || 41 || CECH2004B || 1 hour XMB idle. Fan speed 40%. 16°C ambient. Arctic MX4 paste. 139 days total usage.
|-
| 46 || 46 || CECH2504A || 1 hour XMB idle. Fan speed 40%. 21°C ambient. Arctic MX6 paste. ~280 days of usage. 60°C CPU, 63°C GPU, Fan speed at 24% after 1 hour with the SYSCON fan curve (XMB idle)
|}
|}
'''notes:'''
'''notes:'''
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* Depending of the internal design of each model, from a "fresh" start the time needed to stabilish the temperature can vary around 1 hour. Comparisons between not-stable temperatures are not accurate
* Depending of the internal design of each model, from a "fresh" start the time needed to stabilish the temperature can vary around 1 hour. Comparisons between not-stable temperatures are not accurate
* When in a stable temperature, there is always a fixed difference between CELL and RSX, for slim series is around +-2ºC (this depends of each model and how close are one of the other, also depends of the temperature of the whole motherboard/console, included metal parts and plastic case)
* When in a stable temperature, there is always a fixed difference between CELL and RSX, for slim series is around +-2ºC (this depends of each model and how close are one of the other, also depends of the temperature of the whole motherboard/console, included metal parts and plastic case)


=== Thermal Paste ===
=== Thermal Paste ===
* http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62 <--not valid link, webarchive required
* http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62
* Rare thermal compound comparison http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2012/1490/5 <--not valid link, webarchive required
 
=== Overheat warning ===
[[:File:Ps3-overheat-msg.jpg|Photo]] of the overheat warning message using "notification window" (at topright corner in main XMB )
 
'''The text''' is loaded from path: '''dev_flash/vsh/resource/system_plugin.rco/Text/<language>.xml''' (localized for all languages). Example from '''English.xml''' extracted from the .rco with rcomage:
{{Boxcode|code=<syntaxhighlight lang="xml">
<TextLang>
.
..
...
<Text name="msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart">The system has become hot. Please turn off the system and wait a while before turning it on again.</Text>
</TextLang>
</syntaxhighlight>}}
 
'''The icon''' (a caution white circle with an admiration mark inside) displayed at left inside the notification window... is loaded from '''dev_flash/vsh/resource/system_plugin.rco/Images/tex_notification_caution.png''' (the conversion to .png is made by rcomage, is not really a .png inside the .rco container... images inside .rco's doesnt uses file extensions)
 
All the other images inside system_plugin.rco with names starting with '''tex_notification_*''' are icons intended to be displayed inside notification window (13 images in total)
 
'''The frame''' of the notification window itself (a grey square with a darkest grey border that is scaled accordingly with the text displayed)... is loaded from the same .rco and is named '''tex_notification.png'''... this image can be replaced by using a [[PlayStation 3 Theme (P3T)|Theme]]
 
Note how the text (msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart) and the icon (tex_notification_caution), are refered by his names in the code below
 
==== VSH Code ====
 
Example 4.23
 
seg001:00000000000C472C loc_C472C:                              # CODE XREF: sub_C4708+2E4�j
seg001:00000000000C472C                addi      r3, r1, 0xD0+var_38
seg001:00000000000C4730                addi      r4, r1, 0xD0+var_40
seg001:00000000000C4734                addi      r5, r1, 0xD0+var_48
seg001:00000000000C4738                clrldi    r3, r3, 32
seg001:00000000000C473C                clrldi    r4, r4, 32
seg001:00000000000C4740                clrldi    r5, r5, 32
seg001:00000000000C4744                li        r6, 1
seg001:00000000000C4748                bl        sys_sm_get_ext_event2  (lv2 syscall 0x17A)
seg001:00000000000C474C                cmpwi    cr7, r3, 0
seg001:00000000000C4750                bne      cr7, loc_C47DC
seg001:00000000000C4754                ld        r0, 0xD0+var_38(r1)
seg001:00000000000C4758                cmpdi    cr7, r0, 5
seg001:00000000000C475C                beq      cr7, loc_C47A4
seg001:00000000000C4760                cmpdi    cr7, r0, 7
seg001:00000000000C4764                beq      cr7, console_hot
seg001:00000000000C4768                cmpdi    cr7, r0, 3
seg001:00000000000C476C                bne      cr7, loc_C47DC
seg001:00000000000C4770                li        r3, 1
seg001:00000000000C4774                bl        _Export_vshmain_87BB0001_dialogpoweroff
seg001:00000000000C4778                ld        r0, 0xD0+var_40(r1)
seg001:00000000000C477C                cmpdi    cr7, r0, 0
seg001:00000000000C4780                bne      cr7, loc_C47DC
seg001:00000000000C4784                lis      r9, ((byte_6FEAB4+0x10000)@h)
seg001:00000000000C4788                lbz      r0, byte_6FEAB4@l(r9)
seg001:00000000000C478C                cmpwi    cr7, r0, 0
seg001:00000000000C4790                beq      cr7, loc_C47DC
seg001:00000000000C4794                lis      r9, ((dword_6FEAC0+0x10000)@h)
seg001:00000000000C4798                li        r0, 1
seg001:00000000000C479C                stw      r0, dword_6FEAC0@l(r9)
seg001:00000000000C47A0                b        loc_C4804
seg001:00000000000C47A4 # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
seg001:00000000000C47A4
seg001:00000000000C47A4 loc_C47A4:                              # CODE XREF: sub_C4708+54�j
seg001:00000000000C47A4                ld        r3, 0xD0+var_40(r1)
seg001:00000000000C47A8                xori      r3, r3, 2
seg001:00000000000C47AC                addic    r0, r3, -1
seg001:00000000000C47B0                subfe    r3, r0, r3
seg001:00000000000C47B4                subfic    r3, r3, 3
seg001:00000000000C47B8                clrldi    r3, r3, 32
seg001:00000000000C47BC                bl        _Export_vshmain_87BB0001_dialogpoweroff
seg001:00000000000C47C0                b        loc_C47DC
seg001:00000000000C47C4 # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
seg001:00000000000C47C4
seg001:00000000000C47C4 console_hot:                              # CODE XREF: sub_C4708+5C�j
seg001:00000000000C47C4                lis      r3, ((aMsg_error_cons+0x10000)@h) # "msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart"
seg001:00000000000C47C8                lis      r4, ((aTex_notifica_1+0x10000)@h) # "tex_notification_caution"
seg001:00000000000C47CC                addi      r3, r3, -0x17C0 # aMsg_error_cons
seg001:00000000000C47D0                addi      r4, r4, -0x1840 # aTex_notifica_1
seg001:00000000000C47D4                li        r5, 0
seg001:00000000000C47D8                bl        sub_C4494    # msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart  tex_notification_caution
 
<gallery>
File:Ps3-overheat-msg.jpg|Overheat warning message
</gallery>
 
== Thermo experiments ==
Some I2C thermo experiments from Cell/RSX/board are referenced here: http://stefde69.blogspot.com/2011_05_01_archive.html
 
== Other Photos ==
 
'''Gallery'''
<gallery>
File:Onsemi T1B.jpg|Onsemi T1B temperature monitor
File:Onsemi T1L.jpg|Onsemi T1L temperature monitor
File:REX-001 RSX temperature monitor.jpg|REX-001 RSX temperature monitor
</gallery>
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