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Temperatures commonly seen[edit source]
Note: PS3 manual explicitly states:
Ambient :: Operating temperature 5°C - 35°C (41°F - 95°F)"
| CPU | RSX | Model | Activity |
|---|---|---|---|
| 56 | 59 | CECHL01 (CFW 4.89 EVILNAT) | 40% FAN SPEED COMSTANT VIA WEBMAN MOD BOTH CHIPS WERE DELIDDED MX-4 AND NOCTUA NH-T1 WERE USED ON THE DIES AND IHS TEMPS WERE AFTER 2 HOURS 40 MINS OF SITTING AT THE LAST OF US START MENU |
| 61 | 62 | CHECHA01) (CFW 4.85 REBUG LITE) | (38% FAN SPEED CONSTANT XMB + IN GAME) (ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition) |
| 66 | 64 | CHECHA00) (CFW 4.86.1 REBUG LITE) | After two hour gaming on Portal 2, 25% Fan Speed. Liquid Metal under IHS, Kryonaut on IHS. (Fan@38 is 54c) |
| 68 | 70 | CECH2001A (CFW 4.84.2 REX/D-REX Rebug) | 5 Minutes Idle/In Game @ 50% Fan Speed (Ambient ?, IHS Original)(ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition) |
| 62 | 65 | CECH2001A (CFW 4.84.2 REX/D-REX Rebug) | 5 Minutes Idle/In Game @ 65% Fan Speed (Ambient ?, IHS Original)(ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition) |
| 59 | 68 | CECH2001B (CFW 4.87 CEX Cobra 8.2) | 1 hour God of War III In game @ 46% Fan Speed (Ambient 76F, IHS Original)(ARCTIC MX-5 20?? Edition) |
| 78 | 74 | CECHG01 | 3 hours of Last of Us (Ambient 30°C, IHS fix) |
| 73 | 66 | CECHG01 | 3 hours of Fallout 3 (Ambient 26°C, IHS fix) |
| 70 | 63 | CECHG01 | 1 hour movie in Movian (Ambient 26°C, IHS fix) |
| 66 | 60 | CECHG01 | 1 hour idle in Movian (Ambient 26°C, IHS fix) |
| 73 | 66 | CECHL04 | Hours of Ratchet gaming (Ambient 26°C, no IHS fix, fan speed 28%) |
| 75 | 60 | CECHG04 | Hours of Ratchet gaming (Ambient 24°C, IHS fix, fan speed 38%) |
| 67 | 66 | CECH2508 | After one hour gaming |
| 48 | 51 | CECH2501A | idle |
| 51 | 54 | CECH2501A | after 20min gaming |
| 70 | CECH2501A | 5minutes idle with temp tool | |
| 45 | 50 | CECH2501A | idle |
| 60 | 65 | CECH2501A | after 1h gaming |
| 82 | 68 | 40GB FAT | after 20min use |
| 57 | 59 | CECH2004B | idle |
| 65 | 70 | CECH2004B | after gaming |
| 61 | 68 | CECH2004B | after gaming with extra cooling |
| 65 | 69 | CECH2004B | while playing Tekken Tag 2 for 30 mins (40% fan speed, stock thermal paste, ambient 29°C) |
| 37 | 42 | CECHC04 | after coldboot |
| 40 | 45 | CECHC04 | after 10min idle on XMB |
| 43 | 50 | CECHC04 | after 30min gameplay |
| 75 | 45 | CECHC04 | room temps 15'C |
| 50 | 45 | CECHG | idle on XMB |
| 54 | 50 | CECHG | after 20min gaming |
| 48 | 42 | CECHL03 | after coldboot |
| 79 | 54 | CECHL03 | after 20min gaming |
| 60 | 60 | CECH2501B | after coldboot |
| 61 | 63 | CECH2501B | 20min idle on XMB |
| 63 | 67 | CECH2501B | after gaming |
| 65 | 70 | CECH2501B | after 30min gaming |
| 80 | 61 | 80GB FAT | after coldboot |
| 47 | 52 | CECH2503B | idle |
| 62 | 62 | CECH2503B | after using mmCM a while |
| 34 | 27 | CECH2504B | coldboot |
| 58 | 58 | CECH2504B | idle |
| 70 | 72 | CECH2504B | after 2 hours of gaming |
| 62 | 54 | CECHC03 | idle in multiman |
| 71 | 61 | CECHC03 | after 30min gaming |
| 63 | 67 | CECH2503B | after 40min gaming |
| 69 | 70 | CECH25xx | after 60min idle |
| 65 | 66 | CECH25xx | after 60min idle |
| 45 | 50 | CECH25xx | idle in multiman |
| 42 | 46 | CECH30xx | 30 min idle in XMB, fancontroller on 50% |
| 71 | 56 | CECHG03 | |
| 73 | 67 | CECHA01 | after 30min gaming |
| 58 | 55 | CECHL03 | idle on XMB 2h, fancontroller on 40% |
| 65 | 61 | CECHL03 | after 2h gaming, fancontroller on 40% |
| 58 | 55 | CECHL03 | idle on XMB 2h, fancontroller on 100% |
| 72 | 67 | CECHL03 | after gaming, fancontroller on 100% |
| 66 | 68 | CECH-25xx | after45min gaming |
| 57 | 48 | 40GB FAT | idle |
| 80 | 68 | 40GB FAT | after watching 1080p MKV 2.5h |
| 59 | 59 | CECH2002A | idle in multiman, horizontal |
| 34 | 27 | CECHL04 | coldboot with dualfan 80mm mod |
| 47 | 33 | CECHL04 | after 15min idle in XMB with dualfan 80mm mod |
| 51 | 36 | CECHL04 | after 30min gaming with dualfan 80mm mod |
| 60 | 53 | CECHH01 | idle in multiman |
| 63 | 55 | CECHH01 | after 2h gaming |
| 65 | 54 | CECHC03 | after 1h idle in multiman |
| 78 | 60 | CECHG03 | after 1h idle in multiman |
| 61 | 61 | CECH2503B | after 1h idle in multiman |
| 58 | 48 | CECHL04 | after coldboot |
| 68 | 58 | CECHL04 | after idle a while |
| 49 | 36 | CECHL04 | after coldboot, with added PS3Z easy cool |
| 57 | 41 | CECHL04 | after idle a while, with added PS3Z easy cool |
| 41 | 37 | CECH2004 | after coldboot, with PS3Z easy cool |
| 45 | 42 | CECH2004 | idle 20min in multiman, with PS3Z easy cool |
| 46 | 44 | CECH2004 | after 20min gaming, with PS3Z easy cool |
| 46 | 42 | CECH2004 | idle 15min, with PS3Z easy cool |
| 46 | 42 | CECH2004 | watching 20min 1080 MKV, with PS3Z easy cool |
| 72 | 62 | CECHA01 | idle 30min in multiman |
| 58 | 62 | CECHK03 (CFW 4.90 EVILNAT RSX OC) | 30m idle on XMB after 2 hours of Soulcalibur IV, Horizontal, webMAN Dynamic fan mode 24% speed, Arctic MX-4, eraser mod, no delid, 409 Days Total Usage. |
| 70 | 64 | CECHK04 | After 2H Playing Gran turismo 6 |
| 54 | 57 | CECH-2504A 0D | About 2H of GT6. Drilled holes above the fan, MX4 TIM. |
| 50 | 47 | CECHA01 | idle 30min in multiman. Thermal Artic Silver 5. Fan 29% |
| 68 | 68 | CECH2504 | 1 hour XMB idle, fan 28% (0x48), ambient 23°C. Stock IHS, generic thermal grease. |
| 59 | 62 | CECHC04 | After 1h RDR, fan 35% , ambient temp 21°C. Stock IHS, Arctic MX-2 thermal paste and eraser mod. |
| 60 | 65 | CECH2004 | 30m XMB idle after 2h PS2 emulator (Mafia). Syscon fan, final speed 28% (0x48), ambient 22°C, CELL delid, GD900 thermal grease. |
| 55 | 61 | CECH2001A | Gran Turismo 5&6 Constant Party Usage@6hr23mins, Final in-game reading, 22°C Room, Full Internal Clean, No Delid, MX-6 Paste, Gelid Ultimate [email protected], 40% Fan Speed, 870 EVO SSD, EvilNat 4.90, 1924 Days Total Usage, ON 6521/OFF 6442 |
| 49 | 52 | CECH2001A | 30m XMB idle (horizontal), Full Internal Clean, No Delid, MX-6 Paste, Gelid Ultimate [email protected], Constant 40% Fan Speed, 870 EVO SSD, EvilNat 4.89, 1647 Days Total Usage. |
| 47 | 49 | CECH2001A | 30m XMB idle, Placed 4 1.3 inch higher feet under bottom (horizontal), 20 Celcius Room, Full Internal Clean, No Delid, MX-6 Paste, Gelid Ultimate [email protected], Constant 40% Fan Speed, 870 EVO SSD, EvilNat 4.89, 1649 Days Total Usage. |
| 58 | 62 | CECH2004 | 30m XMB idle after 2h The Evil Within gameplay. Syscon fan, final speed 28% (0x48), ambient 22°C, CELL and RSX delid, GD900 thermal grease. |
| 57 | 62 | CECHC04 | 30m The Last Of Us. Fan (19 blades) speed 35%. Room temperature 23-24°C. Cell isn't delided and the RSX is. MX-4 on both CELL and RSX. There is liquid metal between the RSX IHS and the die. |
| 40 | 41 | CECH2004B | 1 hour XMB idle. Fan speed 40%. 16°C ambient. Arctic MX4 paste. 139 days total usage. |
| 46 | 46 | CECH2504A | 1 hour XMB idle. Fan speed 40%. 21°C ambient. Arctic MX6 paste. ~280 days of usage. 60°C CPU, 63°C GPU, Fan speed at 24% after 1 hour with the SYSCON fan curve (XMB idle) |
notes:
- Read out is done with multiman or temperature readout homebrew and notated here in degrees celcius
- The values inside multiman (or other apps not specifics for temperature tests) are meassuring the processing/graphics load of this app. Comparisons between different apps (or versions of the same app) are not accurate
- Depending of the internal design of each model, from a "fresh" start the time needed to stabilish the temperature can vary around 1 hour. Comparisons between not-stable temperatures are not accurate
- When in a stable temperature, there is always a fixed difference between CELL and RSX, for slim series is around +-2ºC (this depends of each model and how close are one of the other, also depends of the temperature of the whole motherboard/console, included metal parts and plastic case)
Thermal Paste[edit source]
- http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62 <--not valid link, webarchive required
- Rare thermal compound comparison http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2012/1490/5 <--not valid link, webarchive required
Overheat warning[edit source]
Photo of the overheat warning message using "notification window" (at topright corner in main XMB )
The text is loaded from path: dev_flash/vsh/resource/system_plugin.rco/Text/<language>.xml (localized for all languages). Example from English.xml extracted from the .rco with rcomage:
<TextLang> . .. ... <Text name="msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart">The system has become hot. Please turn off the system and wait a while before turning it on again.</Text> </TextLang>
The icon (a caution white circle with an admiration mark inside) displayed at left inside the notification window... is loaded from dev_flash/vsh/resource/system_plugin.rco/Images/tex_notification_caution.png (the conversion to .png is made by rcomage, is not really a .png inside the .rco container... images inside .rco's doesnt uses file extensions)
All the other images inside system_plugin.rco with names starting with tex_notification_* are icons intended to be displayed inside notification window (13 images in total)
The frame of the notification window itself (a grey square with a darkest grey border that is scaled accordingly with the text displayed)... is loaded from the same .rco and is named tex_notification.png... this image can be replaced by using a Theme
Note how the text (msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart) and the icon (tex_notification_caution), are refered by his names in the code below
VSH Code[edit source]
Example 4.23
seg001:00000000000C472C loc_C472C: # CODE XREF: sub_C4708+2E4�j seg001:00000000000C472C addi r3, r1, 0xD0+var_38 seg001:00000000000C4730 addi r4, r1, 0xD0+var_40 seg001:00000000000C4734 addi r5, r1, 0xD0+var_48 seg001:00000000000C4738 clrldi r3, r3, 32 seg001:00000000000C473C clrldi r4, r4, 32 seg001:00000000000C4740 clrldi r5, r5, 32 seg001:00000000000C4744 li r6, 1 seg001:00000000000C4748 bl sys_sm_get_ext_event2 (lv2 syscall 0x17A) seg001:00000000000C474C cmpwi cr7, r3, 0 seg001:00000000000C4750 bne cr7, loc_C47DC seg001:00000000000C4754 ld r0, 0xD0+var_38(r1) seg001:00000000000C4758 cmpdi cr7, r0, 5 seg001:00000000000C475C beq cr7, loc_C47A4 seg001:00000000000C4760 cmpdi cr7, r0, 7 seg001:00000000000C4764 beq cr7, console_hot seg001:00000000000C4768 cmpdi cr7, r0, 3 seg001:00000000000C476C bne cr7, loc_C47DC seg001:00000000000C4770 li r3, 1 seg001:00000000000C4774 bl _Export_vshmain_87BB0001_dialogpoweroff seg001:00000000000C4778 ld r0, 0xD0+var_40(r1) seg001:00000000000C477C cmpdi cr7, r0, 0 seg001:00000000000C4780 bne cr7, loc_C47DC seg001:00000000000C4784 lis r9, ((byte_6FEAB4+0x10000)@h) seg001:00000000000C4788 lbz r0, byte_6FEAB4@l(r9) seg001:00000000000C478C cmpwi cr7, r0, 0 seg001:00000000000C4790 beq cr7, loc_C47DC seg001:00000000000C4794 lis r9, ((dword_6FEAC0+0x10000)@h) seg001:00000000000C4798 li r0, 1 seg001:00000000000C479C stw r0, dword_6FEAC0@l(r9) seg001:00000000000C47A0 b loc_C4804 seg001:00000000000C47A4 # --------------------------------------------------------------------------- seg001:00000000000C47A4 seg001:00000000000C47A4 loc_C47A4: # CODE XREF: sub_C4708+54�j seg001:00000000000C47A4 ld r3, 0xD0+var_40(r1) seg001:00000000000C47A8 xori r3, r3, 2 seg001:00000000000C47AC addic r0, r3, -1 seg001:00000000000C47B0 subfe r3, r0, r3 seg001:00000000000C47B4 subfic r3, r3, 3 seg001:00000000000C47B8 clrldi r3, r3, 32 seg001:00000000000C47BC bl _Export_vshmain_87BB0001_dialogpoweroff seg001:00000000000C47C0 b loc_C47DC seg001:00000000000C47C4 # --------------------------------------------------------------------------- seg001:00000000000C47C4 seg001:00000000000C47C4 console_hot: # CODE XREF: sub_C4708+5C�j seg001:00000000000C47C4 lis r3, ((aMsg_error_cons+0x10000)@h) # "msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart" seg001:00000000000C47C8 lis r4, ((aTex_notifica_1+0x10000)@h) # "tex_notification_caution" seg001:00000000000C47CC addi r3, r3, -0x17C0 # aMsg_error_cons seg001:00000000000C47D0 addi r4, r4, -0x1840 # aTex_notifica_1 seg001:00000000000C47D4 li r5, 0 seg001:00000000000C47D8 bl sub_C4494 # msg_error_console_hot_pls_restart tex_notification_caution
Overheat warning message
Thermo experiments[edit source]
Some I2C thermo experiments from Cell/RSX/board are referenced here: http://stefde69.blogspot.com/2011_05_01_archive.html
Other Photos[edit source]
Gallery
Onsemi T1B temperature monitor
Onsemi T1L temperature monitor
REX-001 RSX temperature monitor
