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<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div>
<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div>


SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] [[:File:Nyko_Data_Bank_PS4.png|Data Bank]]) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten.
SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] [[:File:Nyko_Databank_PS4_-_image2.jpg|Data Bank]]) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten.


SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives
SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives
* http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing
* http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing
* http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
* http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
* http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-worth-upgrading-your-ps4-with-an-ssd


it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html
it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html
=== Size ===
=== Size ===
The reason for the discrepancy between "real" and "reported" HD size, is because windows reports GiB as GB [http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/10/for-the-same-file-why-windows-and-ubuntu-show-different-sizes/ See verbose explanation here], and a handy unit converter [http://wintelguy.com/gb2gib.html here.]
* the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows
* the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows
** after some [[Files_on_the_PS4#Partitions|splitting in 15 partitions]], a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user
** after some [[Partitions#Partitions|splitting in 15 partitions]], a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user
*** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user
*** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user


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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
|-
|-
! Market size<br /><small>(base<sup>10</sup>)</small> !! Real Size<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title="/dev/sdc27 - c638477a-e002-4b57-a454-a27fb63a33a8">mainpartition Size</abbr><br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title="Total in PS4 System Storage Management">Reported Size</abbr><br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! "diff"<br />Real-Reported<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title="Free Space in PS4 System Storage Management">Free<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup></small>)
! Market size<br /><small>(base<sup>10</sup>)</small> !! Real Size<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title='/dev/sdc27 - c638477a-e002-4b57-a454-a27fb63a33a8'>mainpartition Size</abbr><br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title='Total in PS4 System Storage Management'>Reported Size</abbr><br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! "diff"<br />Real-Reported<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title='Free Space in PS4 System Storage Management'>Free</abbr><br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup></small>)
|-
|-
| 500 GB || 465.76 GiB || 420.12 GiB || 408 GiB || 57.661 GiB || 407 GiB
| 500 GB || 465.76 GiB || 420.12 GiB || 408 GiB || 57.661 GiB || 407 GiB
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|-
| 4 TB || 3725.29 GiB ||  || 3579 GiB || 146.29 GiB || 3578 GiB
| 4 TB || 3725.29 GiB ||  || 3579 GiB || 146.29 GiB || 3578 GiB
|-
| 5 TB || 4656.61 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
|-
| 6 TB || 5587.935 GiB ||  || 5390 GiB || 197.935 GiB || 5389 GiB
| 6 TB || 5587.935 GiB ||  || 5390 GiB || 197.935 GiB || 5389 GiB
|-
| 7 TB || 6519.26 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
|-
| 8 TB || 7450.581 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||  
| 8 TB || 7450.581 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||  
|-
| 9 TB || 8381.9 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
|-
| 10 TB || 9313.226 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||  
| 10 TB || 9313.226 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||  
|-
| 11 TB || 10244.5 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
|-
| 12 TB || 11175.871 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||  
| 12 TB || 11175.871 GiB ||  ||  ||  ||  
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* http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives
* http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives


==== Speed comparison ====
==== Storage Speed ====
===== Speed comparison - video =====


{{#ev:youtube|HGjSJwlHK6M}}  
{{#ev:youtube|HGjSJwlHK6M}}  
(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive)
(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive)
===== HDD Speed - table =====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! HDD Speed !! Stock Drive !! 1TB Hitachi Z7K1000 !! 1TB Seagate Hybrid  !! 240GB Crucial M500 SSD !! 2TB Seagate
|-
| Read Speed (Sequential/512K) || 116.5MB/s / 40.4MB/s || 132.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s || 95.9MB/s / 40.6MB/s || 191.9MB/s / 189.7MB/s || 122.1MB/s / 39.6MB/s
|-
| Write Speed (Sequential/512K) || 114.4MB/s / 40.7MB/s || 127.9MB/s / 55.7MB/s || 106.7MB/s / 62.8MB/s || 211.8MB/s / 62.7MB/s || 120.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s
|-
| Access Time || 21.1ms || 17.3ms || 6.9ms to 20.9ms || 0.06ms || 14.9ms
|-
| Gigs per GBP || - || 18.7 || 13.3 || 2.7 || 31
|-
|}
'''source:''' http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-how-to-cheaply-upgrade-your-ps4-to-2tb
===== HDD Speed - Video =====
'''
Stock HGST 500GB HDD vs OCZ Trion 100 480GB vs 1TB Seagate hybrid.'''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OP0tgY4vmM


=== Compatibility ===
=== Compatibility ===
<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 2000 GB Harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 2000GB Harddrive]]</div>
<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 2000 GB Harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 2000GB Harddrive]]</div>


==== HDD 2TB 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ====
==== Economic contemplation ====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Type !! €/GB !! <abbr title='price compared to 2.5" 1TB 5400 rpm HDD'>%</abbr>
|-
| 3.5" 7200 rpm HDD || 0,048 || style="background-color:#b0ffb0;"| {{Round|90.566037736|1}}
|-
| 3.5" 5400 rpm HDD || 0,049 || style="background-color:#a0ffa0;"| {{Round|92.452830189|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 5400 rpm HDD || 0,053 || style="background-color:#80ff80;"| {{Round|100.000000000|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 7200 rpm HDD || 0,061 || style="background-color:#ffff80;"| {{Round|115.094339623|1}}
|-
| 3.5" 7200 rpm SSHD || 0,071 || style="background-color:#ffffa0;"| {{Round|133.962264151|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 5400 rpm SHDD || 0,076 || style="background-color:#ffffb0;"| {{Round|143.396226415|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 1TB SSD || 0,358 || style="background-color:#ff9090;"| {{Round|675.471698113|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 7200 rpm SSHD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
| 3.5" 5400 rpm SHDD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
| 3.5" 1TB SSD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
|}
 
==== =&gt;2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ====
Harddrives, with =&gt;2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page)
Harddrives, with =&gt;2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page)


{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|-
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
|-
|-
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || [http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Spinpoint-M9T-2TB-Festplatte/dp/B00LB5Y450/ B00LB5Y450]
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003<br />aka Samsung HN-M201RAD || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || [http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Spinpoint-M9T-2TB-Festplatte/dp/B00LB5Y450/ B00LB5Y450]
|-
|-
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
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| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
|-
|-
| Toshiba MQ03ABB || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html 15mm thick] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430568/toshiba-mq03abb300-3tb/specificaties/ 430568] ||  
| Seagate Backup Plus Slim Portable Drive - STDR2000100 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || Contains Seagate Spinpoint M9T series ST2000LM003 ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/364111/seagate-backup-plus-slim-2tb-zwart.html 364111] || [http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR2000100/dp/B00FRHTSK4/ B00FRHTSK4]
|-
| Seagate Backup Plus Ultra Slim Portable Drive - STEH2000200 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 7636490071966 ||  ||
|-
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM007 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || [http://www.seagate.com/products/laptop-mobile-storage/laptop-internal-drives/mobile-hdd/ 7mm Height only] ||  ||  ||
|-
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM009 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only ||  ||  ||
|-
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM010 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only ||  ||  ||
|-
| Toshiba HDTB330EK3CA || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || {{unk|USB Interface}}<!--// yes it is USB, but is it native USB? - internal /might be a MQ03ABB variant/ )//--> length is 11.9cm ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/446560/toshiba-canvio-basics-3tb-zwart/specificaties/ 446560] || [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-HDTB330EK3CA-2-5-Inch-Canvio-External/dp/B00WIMBNGI B00WIMBNGI]
|-
| Toshiba MQ03ABB300 || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html 15mm thick] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430568/toshiba-mq03abb300-3tb/specificaties/ 430568] ||  
|-
| Toshiba HDTC615XK3B1 || 1.5 TB || {{yes}} || contains MQ01'''A'''BC150 with SATA ||  ||  ||
|-
| Toshiba HDTB210XK3BA || 500 GB || {{no}} || 11.9mm length / contains MQ01'''U'''BD050 with USB ||  ||  || [http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005J7YBRW B005J7YBRW]
|-
|-
| Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] ||  
| Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] ||  
|-
|-
| Seagate BarraCuda ST2000LM015 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 5400rpm, 7mm Height 128MB Cache  ||  || ||
|-
| Seagate BarraCuda ST1000LM048 || 1TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only || 763649098301 || ||
|}
|}
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =&gt;2TB HDD 2TB 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =&gt;2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]


==== Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ====
==== Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|-
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
|-
|-
| Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] ||  
| Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] ||  
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|-
|-
| Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400  || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] ||  
| Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400  || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] ||  
|-
| Seagate SSHD STBD1000101 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || [[Seagate]] || 7636490072956 ||  ||
|-
|-
| Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
| Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|-
| Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
| Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
|-
| Toshiba H200 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || [http://tweakers.net/nieuws/105053/] ||  ||  ||
|-
| Toshiba H200 || 500 GB || {{Yes}} || [http://tweakers.net/nieuws/105053/] ||  ||  ||
|-
|-
| Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] ||  ||  ||  
| Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] ||  ||  ||  
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[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]


==== SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ====
==== =&gt;1TB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|-
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
|-
| Adata Premier Pro SP610 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 4712366960336 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/412687/ 412687] ||
|-
| Adata Premier Pro SP910 SSD 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 4712366960206 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/431358/ 431358] ||
|-
| Crucial BX100 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0649528770660, 4540395601506 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430405/ 430405] ||
|-
| Crucial M550 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0649528766120, 4540395601186 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/376081/ 376081] ||
|-
| Crucial MX200 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0649528770936 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430409/ 430409] ||
|-
| Fixstars SSD-1000M || 1 TB || {{Pending}} || $990 [http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fixstars-launches-the-worlds-highest-density-ssd-ssd-3000m-for-media-and-entertainment-professionals-300037378.html press] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/435159/fixstars-1000m-1tb/specificaties/ 435159] ||
|-
| Fixstars SSD-3000M || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fixstars-launches-the-worlds-highest-density-ssd-ssd-3000m-for-media-and-entertainment-professionals-300037378.html press] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/435138/fixstars-3000m-3tb/specificaties/ 435138] ||
|-
| [http://www.fixstars.com/en/news/?p=466 Fixstars SSD-6000M] || 6 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://www.fixstars.com/ja/ssd/spec/ spec] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/435160/fixstars-5000m-5tb/specificaties/ 435160] ||
|-
| Mushkin Reactor 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0846651023070 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/425959/ 425959] ||
|-
| Plextor M6 Pro 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 4718390737173 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/417659/ 417659] ||
|-
|-
| Fixstars SSD-1000M || 1 TB || {{Pending}} || $990 [http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fixstars-launches-the-worlds-highest-density-ssd-ssd-3000m-for-media-and-entertainment-professionals-300037378.html press] ||  ||  ||  
| Samsung 840 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 8806085767584 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/340877/ 340877] ||  
|-
|-
| Fixstars SSD-3000M || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fixstars-launches-the-worlds-highest-density-ssd-ssd-3000m-for-media-and-entertainment-professionals-300037378.html press] ||  ||  ||  
| Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 8806086523042 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/422397/ 422397] ||  
|-
|-
| Fixstars SSD-5000M || 5 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://www.fixstars.com/ja/ssd/spec/ spec] ||  ||  ||  
| Samsung 850 Pro 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0887276036304, 0887276057514, 8806086264679, 8806086338141, 8872760363044 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/398668/ 398668] ||
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| Samsung 850 EVO 2TB || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || € 860 [http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-electronics-leads-consumers-into-the-new-era-of-multi-terabyte-ssds-with-launch-of-2-tb-850-pro-and-850-evo/ press] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/455056/ 455056] ||
|-
| Samsung 850 Pro 2TB || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || € 1080 [http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-electronics-leads-consumers-into-the-new-era-of-multi-terabyte-ssds-with-launch-of-2-tb-850-pro-and-850-evo/ press] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/455116/ 455116] ||
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| Samsung Enterprise SSD PM863 SATA 3.84TB || 3,84TB || {{Yes}} || $2200 [http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150720005857/en/Samsung-Unveils-Class-Data-Center-Solid-State#.VeYKks_ouM_ press] [http://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/MZ-7LM3T8Z prod.page] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/456001/ 456001] ||
|-
| Sandisk X300 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 6196591215948 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/434082/ 434082] ||
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| Sandisk X300s 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0619659116651, 0619659116682, 6196591166820 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/400714/ 400714] ||
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| Transcend SSD370 (Premium) 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0760557829782 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/400541/ 400541] ||  
|-
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|}
|}
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY3BCoMwDIbf5T87sSlq7QMIO-zkcexQNIyCTqljjEnffemEbTkkfH8-kg1zGDi0nscBFms_B0a2h93C_VHSg8qwuCt3_sWwqigEg-_55G-wAqt4rR_vHFbYDVQ1Os0prSF6Krk5uaewpp1jlsQqiQ83wp5BphaLjJGuS6Nx2Z36z1FG0SdXFdW_J5Sr8vuhyUvEGN8 =&gt;1000GB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]


==== Reliability ====
==== Reliability ====

Latest revision as of 13:11, 21 August 2020

PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive

SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm[1], minimal storage size 160GB (198 HDD models, 5 SSHD models and 362 SSD models comply to that). Ofcourse if you externalise the harddrive, (e.g. with a Nyko Data Bank) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten.

SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive (compared to PS3) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives

it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with tune2fs -t enable : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html

Size[edit | edit source]

The reason for the discrepancy between "real" and "reported" HD size, is because windows reports GiB as GB See verbose explanation here, and a handy unit converter here.

Capacity table[edit | edit source]

Market size
(base10)		 Real Size
(base2)		 mainpartition Size
(base2)		 Reported Size
(base2)		 "diff"
Real-Reported
(base2)		 Free
(base2)
500 GB 465.76 GiB 420.12 GiB 408 GiB 57.661 GiB 407 GiB
640 GB 596.046 GiB
750 GB 698.492 GiB
1 TB 931.323 GiB 862 GiB 69.323 GiB 861 GiB
1.5 TB 1396.984 GiB 1313 GiB 83.984 GiB 1312 GiB
2 TB 1862.645 GiB 1768 GiB 94.645 GiB 1767 GiB
3 TB 2793.968 GiB 2673 GiB 120.968 GiB 2672 GiB
4 TB 3725.29 GiB 3579 GiB 146.29 GiB 3578 GiB
5 TB 4656.61 GiB
6 TB 5587.935 GiB 5390 GiB 197.935 GiB 5389 GiB
7 TB 6519.26 GiB
8 TB 7450.581 GiB
9 TB 8381.9 GiB
10 TB 9313.226 GiB
11 TB 10244.5 GiB
12 TB 11175.871 GiB

Replacing the harddrive[edit | edit source]

Replacing the drive does not void warranty and can be done this way:

  • PS4 harddrive - image 01

    PS4 harddrive - image 01

  • PS4 harddrive - image 02

    PS4 harddrive - image 02

  • PS4 harddrive - image 03

    PS4 harddrive - image 03

Source: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5107/kw/ps4%20harddrive

Migrating / copy original data[edit | edit source]

Acronis True Image, EASEUS Disk Copy, Clonezilla, Paragon Backup & Recovery, Ghost, Gparted etc. can be used to copy 1:1 the original to the replacement.

Storage Speed[edit | edit source]

Speed comparison - video[edit | edit source]
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(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive)

HDD Speed - table[edit | edit source]
HDD Speed Stock Drive 1TB Hitachi Z7K1000 1TB Seagate Hybrid 240GB Crucial M500 SSD 2TB Seagate
Read Speed (Sequential/512K) 116.5MB/s / 40.4MB/s 132.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s 95.9MB/s / 40.6MB/s 191.9MB/s / 189.7MB/s 122.1MB/s / 39.6MB/s
Write Speed (Sequential/512K) 114.4MB/s / 40.7MB/s 127.9MB/s / 55.7MB/s 106.7MB/s / 62.8MB/s 211.8MB/s / 62.7MB/s 120.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s
Access Time 21.1ms 17.3ms 6.9ms to 20.9ms 0.06ms 14.9ms
Gigs per GBP - 18.7 13.3 2.7 31

source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-how-to-cheaply-upgrade-your-ps4-to-2tb

HDD Speed - Video[edit | edit source]

Stock HGST 500GB HDD vs OCZ Trion 100 480GB vs 1TB Seagate hybrid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OP0tgY4vmM

Compatibility[edit | edit source]

PS4 System Storage Management - 2000GB Harddrive

Economic contemplation[edit | edit source]

Type €/GB %
3.5" 7200 rpm HDD 0,048 90.6
3.5" 5400 rpm HDD 0,049 92.5
2.5" 5400 rpm HDD 0,053 100
2.5" 7200 rpm HDD 0,061 115.1
3.5" 7200 rpm SSHD 0,071 134
2.5" 5400 rpm SHDD 0,076 143.4
2.5" 1TB SSD 0,358 675.5
2.5" 7200 rpm SSHD NA NA
3.5" 5400 rpm SHDD NA NA
3.5" 1TB SSD NA NA

=>2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner[edit | edit source]

Harddrives, with =>2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page)

SKU Size Compatible Remarks EAN TweakersID ASIN
Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003
aka Samsung HN-M201RAD		 2 TB Yes 411214 B00LB5Y450
Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 2 TB Yes 411214
Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM005 2 TB No USB Interface
Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 2 TB Yes 411214
Seagate Backup Plus Slim Portable Drive - STDR2000100 2 TB Yes Contains Seagate Spinpoint M9T series ST2000LM003 364111 B00FRHTSK4
Seagate Backup Plus Ultra Slim Portable Drive - STEH2000200 2 TB Yes 7636490071966
Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM007 2 TB Yes 7mm Height only
Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM009 2 TB Yes 7mm Height only
Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM010 2 TB Yes 7mm Height only
Toshiba HDTB330EK3CA 3 TB Pending ?USB Interface? length is 11.9cm 446560 B00WIMBNGI
Toshiba MQ03ABB300 3 TB Pending 15mm thick 430568
Toshiba HDTC615XK3B1 1.5 TB Yes contains MQ01ABC150 with SATA
Toshiba HDTB210XK3BA 500 GB No 11.9mm length / contains MQ01UBD050 with USB B005J7YBRW
Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 1 TB Yes 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable 328664
Seagate BarraCuda ST2000LM015 2 TB Yes 5400rpm, 7mm Height 128MB Cache
Seagate BarraCuda ST1000LM048 1TB Yes 7mm Height only 763649098301

=>2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link

Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner[edit | edit source]

SKU Size Compatible Remarks EAN TweakersID ASIN
Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 1 TB Yes 0763649042670, 7636490041228 331296
Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM015 1 TB Yes Self-Encrypting Drive 0763649044315, 7636490042867 385738
Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM028 1 TB Yes Self-Encrypting Drive
Seagate Laptop Thin SSHD ST500LM000 500 GB Yes 7636490041242 331388
Seagate Laptop Thin SSHD ST500LM001 500 GB Yes Self-Encrypting Drive 0763649042946, 7636490041495 385751
Seagate Laptop Thin SSHD ST500LM020 500 GB Yes Self-Encrypting Drive
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX012 500 GB Yes
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX014 500 GB Yes Zero Gravity Sensor
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX016 500 GB Yes Self-Encrypting Drive
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX013 500 GB Yes Self-Encrypting Drive
Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD750201 750 GB Yes Kit
Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400 1 TB Yes Kit 0763649046852, 7636490045400 344102
Seagate SSHD STBD1000101 1 TB Yes Seagate 7636490072956
Toshiba MQ02ABD100H 1 TB Yes
Toshiba MQ02ABF050H 500 GB Yes
Toshiba MQ01ABD100H 1 TB Yes
Toshiba MQ01ABD075H 750 GB Yes
Toshiba MQ01ABF050H 500 GB Yes
Toshiba H200 1 TB Yes [1]
Toshiba H200 500 GB Yes [2]
Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl NA No NonHybrid

Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link

=>1TB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner[edit | edit source]

SKU Size Compatible Remarks EAN TweakersID ASIN
Adata Premier Pro SP610 1TB 1 TB Yes 4712366960336 412687
Adata Premier Pro SP910 SSD 1TB 1 TB Yes 4712366960206 431358
Crucial BX100 1TB 1 TB Yes 0649528770660, 4540395601506 430405
Crucial M550 2,5" 1TB 1 TB Yes 0649528766120, 4540395601186 376081
Crucial MX200 2,5" 1TB 1 TB Yes 0649528770936 430409
Fixstars SSD-1000M 1 TB Pending $990 press 435159
Fixstars SSD-3000M 3 TB Pending press 435138
Fixstars SSD-6000M 6 TB Pending spec 435160
Mushkin Reactor 1TB 1 TB Yes 0846651023070 425959
Plextor M6 Pro 1TB 1 TB Yes 4718390737173 417659
Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 1 TB Yes 8806085767584 340877
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB 1 TB Yes 8806086523042 422397
Samsung 850 Pro 1TB 1 TB Yes 0887276036304, 0887276057514, 8806086264679, 8806086338141, 8872760363044 398668
Samsung 850 EVO 2TB 2 TB Yes € 860 press 455056
Samsung 850 Pro 2TB 2 TB Yes € 1080 press 455116
Samsung Enterprise SSD PM863 SATA 3.84TB 3,84TB Yes $2200 press prod.page 456001
Sandisk X300 2,5" 1TB 1 TB Yes 6196591215948 434082
Sandisk X300s 2,5" 1TB 1 TB Yes 0619659116651, 0619659116682, 6196591166820 400714
Transcend SSD370 (Premium) 1TB 1 TB Yes 0760557829782 400541

=>1000GB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link


Reliability[edit | edit source]

Notes[edit | edit source]

  1. ↑ Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual


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