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<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div> | <div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div> | ||
SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] [[:File: | SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] [[:File:Nyko_Data_Bank_PS4.png|Data Bank]]) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten. | ||
SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives | SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives | ||
* http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing | * http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing | ||
* http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison | * http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison | ||
it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html | it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html | ||
=== Size === | === Size === | ||
* the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows | * the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows | ||
** after some [[ | ** after some [[Files_on_the_PS4#Partitions|splitting in 15 partitions]], a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user | ||
*** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user | *** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user | ||
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! Market size<br /><small>(base<sup>10</sup>)</small> !! Real Size<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title= | ! Market size<br /><small>(base<sup>10</sup>)</small> !! Real Size<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title="/dev/sdc27 - c638477a-e002-4b57-a454-a27fb63a33a8">mainpartition Size</abbr><br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title="Total in PS4 System Storage Management">Reported Size</abbr><br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! "diff"<br />Real-Reported<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup>)</small> !! <abbr title="Free Space in PS4 System Storage Management">Free<br /><small>(base<sup>2</sup></small>) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 500 GB || 465.76 GiB || 420.12 GiB || 408 GiB || 57.661 GiB || 407 GiB | | 500 GB || 465.76 GiB || 420.12 GiB || 408 GiB || 57.661 GiB || 407 GiB | ||
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| 4 TB || 3725.29 GiB || || 3579 GiB || 146.29 GiB || 3578 GiB | | 4 TB || 3725.29 GiB || || 3579 GiB || 146.29 GiB || 3578 GiB | ||
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| 6 TB || 5587.935 GiB || || 5390 GiB || 197.935 GiB || 5389 GiB | | 6 TB || 5587.935 GiB || || 5390 GiB || 197.935 GiB || 5389 GiB | ||
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| 8 TB || 7450.581 GiB || || || || | | 8 TB || 7450.581 GiB || || || || | ||
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| 10 TB || 9313.226 GiB || || || || | | 10 TB || 9313.226 GiB || || || || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 TB || 11175.871 GiB || || || || | | 12 TB || 11175.871 GiB || || || || | ||
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* http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives | * http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives | ||
==== Speed comparison ==== | |||
{{#ev:youtube|HGjSJwlHK6M}} | {{#ev:youtube|HGjSJwlHK6M}} | ||
(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive) | (Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive) | ||
=== Compatibility === | === Compatibility === | ||
<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 2000 GB Harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 2000GB Harddrive]]</div> | <div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 2000 GB Harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 2000GB Harddrive]]</div> | ||
==== | ==== HDD 2TB 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ||
Harddrives, with =>2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page) | Harddrives, with =>2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page) | ||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
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! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! | ! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003 | | Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || [http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Spinpoint-M9T-2TB-Festplatte/dp/B00LB5Y450/ B00LB5Y450] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | | Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | ||
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| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | | Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | ||
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| Toshiba MQ03ABB || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html 15mm thick] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430568/toshiba-mq03abb300-3tb/specificaties/ 430568] || | |||
| Toshiba | |||
|- | |- | ||
| Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] || | | Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] || | ||
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|} | |} | ||
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =>2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link] | [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =>2TB HDD 2TB 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link] | ||
==== Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ==== Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
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! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! | ! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] || | | Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] || | ||
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| Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] || | | Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || || || | | Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || || || | ||
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| Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} || || || || | | Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} || || || || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] || || || | | Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] || || || | ||
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[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link] | [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link] | ||
== Notes == | == Notes == |