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''If you are looking for the list of PS2 games compatible with non backward-compatible PS3's, see the [[PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List]].''
= PS2-Compatibility =
= PS2-Compatibility =
Early PS3 FAT CECHA/COK-001 and CECHB/COK-001 : Full compatibility with GS+EE and Rambus memory. Later CECHC/COK-002 had instead of GS+EE a single GS and lacked the Rambus memory.
<div style="float:right">[[File:CXD9833GB.png|200px|thumb|left|Sony CXD9833GB (PS2 EE/GS) - The original PS2 EE/GS as used in the SCHP-70000]]</div>


PS2 emulation on PS3, occurs in 3 different ways:


== PS2 Hardware ==
* In consoles with EE + GS + RAMBUS, emulation has the highest compatibility of all, running PS2 games at the hardware level. In these consoles, the emulation runs directly on the dedicated hardware, reducing the CPU and GPU consumption of the PS3 hardware.
[[Category:Hardware]]


=== PS2 EE/GS and PS2 GS ===
* In GS-only (No EE and RAMBUS) consoles, PS2 emulation is shared between the PS3 hardware, since the EE processor is omitted, delivering the entire processing load to the Cell. In these consoles, the GS is rendered via Software, which has a little reduced compatibility, which can lead to graphic artifacts in some games.


==== Sony CXD2953AGB (PS2 EE/GS) ====
* In consoles without EE and GS, the emulation of PS2 occurs through the "PS2 Classics" package, where the emulation occurs entirely via software, sharing the processing of EE emulation with the PPE cores and the 7 SPE cores. Software emulation has less compatibility between the 3 modes, as it depends on emulating all the components of a real PS2 in a fully virtualized environment.
Used on PS3 FAT CECHA/COK-001 and CECHB/COK-001 <br />
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=File:SCEI_CXD2953AGB.JPG <br />


==== Sony CXD9833GB (PS2 EE/GS) ====
Supported via Hardware (EE + GS or GS only) consoles allow the execution of PS2 games via physical media (CD / DVD ROM), including PS2 Classics (hardware) emulation. Consoles with no hardware compatibility can not play PS2 games from physical media.
8-753-227-14 / IC7004 <br />
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=File:CXD9833GB.png  <br />


==== Sony CXD2972GB (PS2 GS) ====
= Boards =
Used on PS3 FAT CECHC/COK-002 <br />
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=File:CXD2972GB.JPG <br />


=== PS2 Rambus 32MB memory ===
Early PS3 FAT [[CECHAxx]]/[[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] and [[CECHBxx]]/[[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] : Full compatibility with GS+EE and Rambus memory. Later [[CECHCxx]]/[[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] and [[CECHExx]]/[[COK-00x#COK-002W|COK-002W]] had instead of EE+GS a single GS and lacked the Rambus memory.
<div style="float:right">[[File:K4R271669F.png|200px|thumb|left|54-ball FBGA<br />Samsung K4R271669F / K4R271669H<br />Rambus]]</div>
The earlier models with hardware PS2 compatibility also contained an extra 32MB of RDRAM using two 16MB Samsung chips.


{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" border="#999" class="wikitable" style="border:1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"  
[http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/File:PS2-SCPH-15000-J.JPG Early PS2 FAT with EE-GS on SCPH-15000]
|- bgcolor="#cccccc"
 
! Type !! Size !! Speed !! Voltage !! Packaging !! Manufacturer !! Serial Number !! Description
<gallery>
File:PS2 - GH-010 - labels.jpg|PS2 - GH-010 - labels
File:PS3 - COK-001 - labels.jpg|PS3 - COK-001 - labels
</gallery>
 
== Chipnumers @ SKU's ==
{|class="wikitable"
|-
! PS3 Model !! Mobo Model !! Mobo serial !! PS2 (EE/)GS !! PS2 Rambus !! PS2 bridge !! Notes
|-
| [[CECHAxx]] || [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] || 1-871-868-12<br />1-871-868-22<br />1-871-868-32 || [[CXD2953AGB]] || [[K4R271669F]]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;or<br />[[K4R271669H]] || [[CXD9208GP2]] ||
|-
| [[CECHBxx]] || [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] || 1-871-868-12<br />1-871-868-22<br />1-871-868-32 || [[CXD2953AGB]] || [[K4R271669F]]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;or<br />[[K4R271669H]] || [[CXD9208GP2]] ||
|-
| [[CECHCxx]] || [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] || 1-873-513-21<br />1-873-513-31 || [[CXD2972GB]] || none || none ||
|-
| style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">[[CECHDxx]]</span> || colspan="6" style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">SKU never released</span>
|-
| [[CECHExx]] || [[COK-00x#COK-002W|COK-002W]] ||  || [[CXD2972GB]] || none || none ||
|-
| style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">[[CECHFxx]]</span> || colspan="6" style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">SKU never released</span>
|-
| [[CECHGxx]] || [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]] || 1-875-384-21<br />1-875-384-31 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
| [[CECHHxx]] || [[DIA-00x#DIA-001|DIA-001]] || 1-875-368-11<br />1-875-368-31 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
| style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">[[CECHIxx]]</span> || colspan="6" style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">SKU never released</span>
|-
| [[CECHJxx]] || [[DIA-00x#DIA-002|DIA-002]] || 1-876-912-32 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
| [[CECHKxx]] || [[DIA-00x#DIA-002|DIA-002]] || 1-876-912-32 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
| [[CECHLxx]] || [[VER-00x|VER-001]] || 1-878-196-31<br />1-878-196-41 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
| [[CECHMxx]] || [[VER-00x|VER-001]] || 1-878-196-31<br />1-878-196-41 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
| style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">[[CECHNxx]]</span> || colspan="6" style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">SKU never released</span>
|-
|-
| RDRAM || 16MB || 800MHz || 2.50 +/- 0.13V || 54-pin || Samsung || K4R271669F || 32MB total (2 chips) PS2 HW BC
| style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">[[CECHOxx]]</span> || colspan="6" style="text-align:center; background-color:lightgrey;" | <span style="background-color:lightgrey;">SKU never released</span>
|-
|-
| RDRAM || 16MB || 800MHz || 2.50 +/- 0.13V || 54-pin || Samsung || K4R271669H || 32MB total (2 chips) PS2 HW BC
| [[CECHPxx]] || [[VER-00x|VER-001]] || 1-878-196-31<br />1-878-196-41 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
|-
|}
| [[CECHQxx]] || [[VER-00x|VER-001]] || 1-878-196-31<br />1-878-196-41 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
==== Samsung K4R271669F / K4R271669H (PS2 Rambus 800MHz 16MB 2.5V FBGA54 - 2x) ====
|-
Used on PS3 FAT CECHA/COK-001 and CECHB/COK-001 <br />
| [[CECH-20xx]] || [[DYN-00x|DYN-001]] || 1-880-055-31 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
Datasheet: [http://www.samsung.com/global/system/business/semiconductor/product/2007/6/11/XDR_RDRAM/RDRAM/Component/128MbitConsumer/K4R271669H/ds_k4r271669h_rev10.pdf ds_k4r271669h_rev10.pdf] <br />
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=File:K4R271669F.png <br />
 
=== PS2 bridgechip ===
 
==== Sony CXD9208GP2 (PS2 ?) ====
6-710-433-01 / IC7301 <br />
Used on PS3 FAT CECHA/COK-001 and CECHB/COK-001 <br />
Unknown bridge chip from EE+GS to the CXM*02*R and the RSX <br />
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=File:SCEI_CXD9208GP.JPG <br />
 
 
== PS2 Software ==
[[Category:Software]]
 
Mountpoints:
* dev_ps2disc
* dev_ps2disc1
 
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" border="#999" class="wikitable" style="border:1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"  
|- bgcolor="#cccccc"
! Name !! Auth ID !! Self<br />(/dev_flash/ps2emu) !! Notes
|-
|-
| PS2_LPAR  || 0x1020000003000001 || rowspan="2" | ps2_emu.self ||
| [[CECH-21xx]] || [[SUR-00x|SUR-001]] || 1-881-945-11 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
|-
| *SCE_CELLOS_SYSTEM_MGR_PS2  || 0x107000001D000001 ||  
| [[CECH-25xx]] || [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]] || 1-882-481-21<br />1-882-481-31 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
|-
| PS2_GX_LPAR || 0x1020000003000001 || rowspan="2" | ps2_gxemu.self ||
| [[CECH-25xx]] || [[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] || 1-882-770-11 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
|-
| *SCE_CELLOS_SYSTEM_MGR_PS2_GX || 0x107000001D000001 ||  
| [[CECH-30xx]] || [[KTE-00x|KTE-001]] || 1-884-749-11 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
|-
| PS2_SW_LPAR || 0x1020000003000001 || rowspan="2" | ps2_softemu.self ||
| [[CECH-40xx]] || [[MSX-00x|MSX-001]] || 1-886-928-11 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
|-
| *SCE_CELLOS_SYSTEM_MGR_PS2_SW || 0x107000001D000001 ||  
| [[CECH-40xx]] || [[MPX-00x|MPX-001]] || 1-887-233-11 || colspan="3" style="text-align:center;" | No PS2 Compatibility hardware
|-
|-
|}
|}
== Software ==
See: [[Emulation#ps2emu|PS2 Emulation]]
All consoles have hardware information. In GameOS you can call Lv2 Syscall 393 (0x189) sys_sm_get_model <br>
to get your consoles information. In Lv1/Hypervisor its in the repository nodes sc 0x5B lv1_get_repository_node<br>
with Parameters "sys","hw","config" usually noded as "sys.hw.config#0" or something. These information are mostly<br>
technical related and not just apply to the software emulator, but the PS3 system as a whole.
Result examples:
20 00 00 00 FF FF FE FF <--> a backwards compatible console
4E 00 FF FF 0A 03 BC 3C <--> on Hypervisor Page
4E 00 FF FF 01 07 BC BF <--> CECHJ04
In binary formation:
0010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1110 1111 1111 <--> a backwards compatible console
0100 1110 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 1010 0000 0011 1011 1100 0011 1100 <--> on Hypervisor Page
0100 1110 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 0001 0000 0111 1011 1100 1011 1111 <--> CECHJ04
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 <--> Mask:Gelic WLAN, new consoles use WLAN via USB
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 <--> Mask:Backwards Compatible Flag
XMB checks this flag and if == 0, it will give following message: "This model of the PS3™ system is not compatible with PlayStation®2 format software."
{{Motherboard Components}}<noinclude>[[Category:Main]]</noinclude>

Revision as of 06:48, 2 December 2019

If you are looking for the list of PS2 games compatible with non backward-compatible PS3's, see the PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List.

PS2-Compatibility

Sony CXD9833GB (PS2 EE/GS) - The original PS2 EE/GS as used in the SCHP-70000

PS2 emulation on PS3, occurs in 3 different ways:

  • In consoles with EE + GS + RAMBUS, emulation has the highest compatibility of all, running PS2 games at the hardware level. In these consoles, the emulation runs directly on the dedicated hardware, reducing the CPU and GPU consumption of the PS3 hardware.
  • In GS-only (No EE and RAMBUS) consoles, PS2 emulation is shared between the PS3 hardware, since the EE processor is omitted, delivering the entire processing load to the Cell. In these consoles, the GS is rendered via Software, which has a little reduced compatibility, which can lead to graphic artifacts in some games.
  • In consoles without EE and GS, the emulation of PS2 occurs through the "PS2 Classics" package, where the emulation occurs entirely via software, sharing the processing of EE emulation with the PPE cores and the 7 SPE cores. Software emulation has less compatibility between the 3 modes, as it depends on emulating all the components of a real PS2 in a fully virtualized environment.

Supported via Hardware (EE + GS or GS only) consoles allow the execution of PS2 games via physical media (CD / DVD ROM), including PS2 Classics (hardware) emulation. Consoles with no hardware compatibility can not play PS2 games from physical media.

Boards

Early PS3 FAT CECHAxx/COK-001 and CECHBxx/COK-001 : Full compatibility with GS+EE and Rambus memory. Later CECHCxx/COK-002 and CECHExx/COK-002W had instead of EE+GS a single GS and lacked the Rambus memory.

Early PS2 FAT with EE-GS on SCPH-15000

  • PS2 - GH-010 - labels

    PS2 - GH-010 - labels

  • PS3 - COK-001 - labels

    PS3 - COK-001 - labels

Chipnumers @ SKU's

PS3 Model Mobo Model Mobo serial PS2 (EE/)GS PS2 Rambus PS2 bridge Notes
CECHAxx COK-001 1-871-868-12
1-871-868-22
1-871-868-32		 CXD2953AGB K4R271669F
  or
K4R271669H		 CXD9208GP2
CECHBxx COK-001 1-871-868-12
1-871-868-22
1-871-868-32		 CXD2953AGB K4R271669F
  or
K4R271669H		 CXD9208GP2
CECHCxx COK-002 1-873-513-21
1-873-513-31		 CXD2972GB none none
CECHDxx SKU never released
CECHExx COK-002W CXD2972GB none none
CECHFxx SKU never released
CECHGxx SEM-001 1-875-384-21
1-875-384-31		 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECHHxx DIA-001 1-875-368-11
1-875-368-31		 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECHIxx SKU never released
CECHJxx DIA-002 1-876-912-32 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECHKxx DIA-002 1-876-912-32 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECHLxx VER-001 1-878-196-31
1-878-196-41		 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECHMxx VER-001 1-878-196-31
1-878-196-41		 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECHNxx SKU never released
CECHOxx SKU never released
CECHPxx VER-001 1-878-196-31
1-878-196-41		 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECHQxx VER-001 1-878-196-31
1-878-196-41		 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECH-20xx DYN-001 1-880-055-31 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECH-21xx SUR-001 1-881-945-11 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECH-25xx JTP-001 1-882-481-21
1-882-481-31		 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECH-25xx JSD-001 1-882-770-11 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECH-30xx KTE-001 1-884-749-11 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECH-40xx MSX-001 1-886-928-11 No PS2 Compatibility hardware
CECH-40xx MPX-001 1-887-233-11 No PS2 Compatibility hardware

Software

See: PS2 Emulation

All consoles have hardware information. In GameOS you can call Lv2 Syscall 393 (0x189) sys_sm_get_model
to get your consoles information. In Lv1/Hypervisor its in the repository nodes sc 0x5B lv1_get_repository_node
with Parameters "sys","hw","config" usually noded as "sys.hw.config#0" or something. These information are mostly
technical related and not just apply to the software emulator, but the PS3 system as a whole.

Result examples: 

20 00 00 00 FF FF FE FF <--> a backwards compatible console
4E 00 FF FF 0A 03 BC 3C <--> on Hypervisor Page
4E 00 FF FF 01 07 BC BF <--> CECHJ04

In binary formation: 

0010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1110 1111 1111 <--> a backwards compatible console
0100 1110 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 1010 0000 0011 1011 1100 0011 1100 <--> on Hypervisor Page
0100 1110 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 0001 0000 0111 1011 1100 1011 1111 <--> CECHJ04
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 <--> Mask:Gelic WLAN, new consoles use WLAN via USB
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 <--> Mask:Backwards Compatible Flag

XMB checks this flag and if == 0, it will give following message: "This model of the PS3™ system is not compatible with PlayStation®2 format software."


Syscon
CXR713F Series
CELL
90 nm
65 nm
45 nm
RSX
90 nm
65 nm
40 nm
28 nm
CELL RAM
(XDR)
Elpida
Qimonda
Samsung
RSX RAM
(GDDR3 or 5)
Elpida
Infineon & Qimonda
Samsung
Hynix
PS2
Compatibility
EEGS
RDRAM
Bridge
South Bridge
Starship2
Flash
NAND
Samsung
NOR
Macronix
Samsung
Spansion
eMMC
Samsung
Panasonic
BD SATA/PATA
BD Controllers
On BD board
Sony
Renesas SCEI
Integrated
Sony
Renesas SCEI
Others
IDT SCEI
Wireless
Connectors
Other
Diverse Comp.
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