Talk:Cex2Dex

CEX2DEX - pro versus con

Pro

Function	3.55	3.56	3.60+	Remarks
Using the features of a debug console	Yes	Yes	Yes	To effectively use features, need to use SDK related files, e.g. TargetManager etc
Using FSELFs	Yes	Yes	Yes	To create fselfs, you must have the decrypted binairy first
Downgrading	Yes	Yes	Yes	Restricted to minver of that SKU/type (either metldr minver locked, or because of drivers - same limitations as Retail/CEX, but without hardware flasher)
HDCP off	Yes	Yes	Yes	Can use QA debug (<=3.56) or setmonitor.self (ProDG Target Manager - Monitor Settings Utility). See also XRegistry.sys /setting/display/0/hdcp

Con

Function	3.55	3.56	3.60+	Remarks
Retail Functionality : BD-Movies	No (patchable)	No (see 3.55)	No (Disabled for that Target ID)
Retail Functionality : DVD-Movies	No (patchable)	No (see 3.55)	No (Disabled for that Target ID)
Retail Functionality : PS Store	No (patchable)	No (see 3.55)	No (Disabled for that Target ID)
PSN/SEN	No (only when patched/spoofed to Retail AND passphrase is available)	No (see 3.55)	No (Server Whitelisting and nondebug IDPS fail)
More Stress to the console	Yes	Yes	Yes	Using TargetManager/Debugger increases memoryload, also heats up RSX more (there are known CECHA/CECHC that gotten YLOD after few weeks of usage, and behaved normally when converted back to Retail/CEX)
Backups (via Manager) : <=3.56 keyed	Yes (same as Retail, would need lv1.self : mmap114 and lv2.self : peek/poke patches + Manager with DEX detection/payload)	Yes (see 3.55)	No
Backups (via Manager) : >=3.60 keyed	No (same as Retail)	No (see 3.55)	No
Backups (using ps3gen/bdemu) : <=3.56 keyed	Yes	Yes (see 3.55)	Yes ?
Backups (using ps3gen/bdemu) : >=3.60 keyed	No	No	No
OtherOS++ : Linux/BSD	Yes (same as Retail, need patches)	No (No one ported OtherOS++ MFW tasks to 3.56 yet, if someone does, see 3.55)	No
Firmware availability	Yes	Yes	No (latest public is 4.11)	Getting firmwares will always be a handicap, as they are not openly distributed/announced like Retail, only on SCEDevnet
Easily detectable and banned	Yes	Yes	Yes

Note about 3.56 : would need to use custom generated keys for signing, as the random fail is fixed since that version, thus no private keys can be acquired with Scekrit).

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EID correctness

  [8/31/2011 1:41:13 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: the information on the PS3 dev wiki was intentionally faulty
  [8/31/2011 1:41:15 AM] qqqqq: Use the creativity or fail to find it.
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  [8/31/2011 1:41:34 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: so people can't use the 'knowledge'
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  [8/31/2011 1:41:43 AM] qqqqq: xxxxxx, uuuu has done a very good job at fixing what IS wrong. If you saw something wrong, why didn't you ask uuuu about it to fix it?
  [8/31/2011 1:41:55 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: that's not what guys like rrrrrrr have told me
  [8/31/2011 1:41:58 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: it's intentionally faulty
  [8/31/2011 1:42:03 AM] qqqqq: Instead you left it  how it was and bitched about it.
  [8/31/2011 1:42:07 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: to prevent any meaningful extraction of keys
  [8/31/2011 1:42:11 AM] qqqqq: If it was fault again talk to uuuu
  [8/31/2011 1:42:24 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: no - uuuu could not have even known about it
  [8/31/2011 1:42:28 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: it was something only a kkkk could know
  [8/31/2011 1:42:45 AM] qqqqq: You'd be surprised what uuuu knows. he really is a walking encyclopedia of the ps3.
  [8/31/2011 1:42:48 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: that wiki is compromised with purposeful misinformation
  [8/31/2011 1:42:59 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: and that's what rrrrrrr actually said and thinks
  [8/31/2011 1:43:17 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: I'm talking about ps3 dev wiki BTW here
  [8/31/2011 1:43:25 AM] qqqqq: if it's providing false info, then why not make a site to provide the right info? *gasps*
  [8/31/2011 1:43:34 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: well he did make the suggestion
  [8/31/2011 1:43:38 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: but it didn't go over well with these people
  [8/31/2011 1:43:45 AM] yyyyyyyy: kkkk wasn't the only one with cex-dex shit
  [8/31/2011 1:43:50 AM] yyyyyyyy: hell he's not even the one who wrote it
  [8/31/2011 1:44:01 AM] yyyyyyyy: so you can stfu about that
  [8/31/2011 1:44:09 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: hell do I know who the fuck wrote CEX-DEX
  [8/31/2011 1:44:27 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: all I know is that there are a bunch of connivant shits that want a wiki intentionally 'disinfoed' like that
  [8/31/2011 1:44:35 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: people in the know
  [8/31/2011 1:44:49 AM] yyyyyyyy: and one conniving shit here trying to save his hide
  [8/31/2011 1:44:57 AM] qqqqq: xxxxxx, again as i said. If there was false info (Which uuuu would never do) Why not fix it
  [8/31/2011 1:45:21 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: go ask rrrrrrr - I dunno
  [8/31/2011 1:45:26 AM] qqqqq: DO you think he purposesly makes changes so that it's wrong? That'd create an even bigger headache if a noob attempted it and bugged us in the chat
  [8/31/2011 1:45:32 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: the EID/CEX-DEX info was incomplete
  [8/31/2011 1:45:33 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: faulty

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