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Q: Are they (TB team) just stealing the dev eboots? <br />
Q: Are they (TB team) just stealing the dev eboots? <br />
A: You can only rumor which source they use to resign the content to lock-in their DRM. But ofcourse those very same DRM-less files can be resigned for 3.55 too (as has been done numerous times in the past). Piracy is bad, but pirates using DRM to make sure ''they'' get the money and ''not'' genuine developpers is even worse (especially when they lock you into a single firmware that has even less to offer than generic MFW and makes you loose OtherOS++ too). <br />
A: You can only rumor which source they use to resign the content to lock-in their DRM. But ofcourse those very same DRM-less files can be resigned for 3.55 too (as has been done numerous times in the past). Piracy is bad, but pirates using DRM to make sure ''they'' get the money and ''not'' genuine developpers is even worse (especially when they lock you into a single firmware that has even less to offer than generic MFW and makes you loose OtherOS++ too). <br />
=== Content ===
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Title !! PARADOX<br />PARADiSO !! Disc !! Dongleless<br />resigned<br /> !! [[KaKaRoTo_Kind_of_%C2%B4Jailbreak%C2%B4|'Kind Of']] !! Notes
|-
| Air Conflicts: Secret Wars ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Alice Madness Returns || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Batman Arkham City ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Bleach Soul Resurreccion || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Bodycount ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
| Cabelas Big Game Hunter 2012 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Call of Juarez: The Cartel ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Captain America Super Soldier || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Cars 2 ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Catherine || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Dance! It’s your Stage ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Dark Souls || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Dead Island ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
| Deus Ex Human Revolution ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
| Dirt 3 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Disgaea 4 A Promise Unforgotten ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Dragon Ball Z Ultimate Tenkaichi || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Driver San Francisco ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Dungeon Siege 3 ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| F1 2011 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| F.E.A.R. 3 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| FIFA 12 ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| God of War Origins Collection ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Goldeneye 007 Reloaded || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2 ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Kung Fu Panda 2 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Lego Pirates of the Caribbean ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Lord of the Rings War in the North || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Madden NFL 12 ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Modern Warfare 3 ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Monkey Island Collection Special Edition ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| NBA 2K12 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| NCAA Football 12 ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Need for Speed The_Run || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Portal 2 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Pro Evolution Soccer 12 ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Rage || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Ratchet & Clank All 3 One ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
| Rayman Origins || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Record of Agarest War Zero ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
|-
| Red Faction Armageddon || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Resistance 3 ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Saints Row the Third || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Shadow Of The Damned || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Sniper Ghost Warrior ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Sonic Generations || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Spider-Man Edge of Time ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Supremacy MMA || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Thor God of Thunder ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| Warhammer 40000 Space Marine || {{Yes}} ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| White Knight Chronicles II  ||  ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
| X-Man Destiny ||  || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} ||
|-
|}


=== Files to strip ===
=== Files to strip ===

Revision as of 15:16, 2 December 2011

Q&A

Q: Is this posible on other dongles from the FW3.41 days like Blackcat and Teensy?
A: Dongles are bad and obsolete, mkay :P (once you have the key/algo, you don't need any dongle at all)

Q: Are they (TB team) just stealing the dev eboots?
A: You can only rumor which source they use to resign the content to lock-in their DRM. But ofcourse those very same DRM-less files can be resigned for 3.55 too (as has been done numerous times in the past). Piracy is bad, but pirates using DRM to make sure they get the money and not genuine developpers is even worse (especially when they lock you into a single firmware that has even less to offer than generic MFW and makes you loose OtherOS++ too).

Files to strip

rootfolder, LICDIR + content, TROPDIR + content, USRDIR (EBOOT.BIN + other signed binaries like .SPRX, .sdat)

example (portal_2_BLUS30732) : 

|-- ICON0.PNG
|-- LICDIR
|   `-- LIC.DAT
|-- PARAM.SFO
|-- PIC0.PNG
|-- PIC1.PNG
|-- PIC2.PNG
|-- PS3LOGO.DAT
|-- SND0.AT3
|-- TROPDIR
|   `-- NPWR01719_00
|       `-- TROPHY.TRP
`-- USRDIR
    |-- EBOOT.BIN
    |-- bin
    |   |-- datacache_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- engine_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- filesystem_stdio_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- inputsystem_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- launcher_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- localize_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- materialsystem_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- scenefilecache_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- soundemittersystem_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- steam_api_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- steam_config.sdat
    |   |-- steam_resources.sdat
    |   |-- steamclient_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- studiorender_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- tier0_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- vgui2_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- vguimatsurface_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- vjobs_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- vphysics_ps3.sprx
    |   |-- vscript_ps3.sprx
    |   `-- vstdlib_ps3.sprx
    `-- portal2
        `-- bin
            |-- client_ps3.sprx
            |-- matchmaking_ps3.sprx
            `-- server_ps3.sprx


About USB descriptors

FAKE troll BS

00:27:50 <openTB> Get TB payload.bin 2.3 from wiki dev
00:27:55 <openTB> Get TB dongle-updater.pkg.out
00:28:02 <openTB> Create folder /dev_hdd0/game/BLES80608/USRDIR/payload
00:28:10 <openTB> Copy payload.bin in /dev_hdd0/game/BLES80608/USRDIR/payload
00:28:17 <openTB> Copy TB EBOOT.BIN.elf , EBOOT.bin /dev_hdd0/game/BLES80608/USRDIR/payload
00:28:23 <openTB> EDIT multiman options_default.ini 
00:28:30 <openTB> # Load payload (FW 3.55)
00:28:39 <openTB> load_custom_payload=1
00:28:47 <openTB> LOAD Multiman and enjoy TB Games
00:30:02 <McLamer> working on kmeaw or tbfw needed ?
00:31:06 <openTB> normal,, rebug 3.55.2, 
00:32:24 <McLamer> done by you or found in somewhere in web ?
00:32:31 <openTB> non need tbfw
00:33:14 <openTB> made by me
00:33:35 <McLamer> sounds great :-)
00:33:43 <McLamer> for what is the updater ?
00:35:37 <openTB> EBOOT.BIN.elf , EBOOT.bin ,, on dongle-updater.pkg.out

Fake proof:

  1. Though the 2.3 payload upon execution does relocate itself to 0x80000000007f0000 then continue execution, the USB descriptor is still present, at minimum those 0x20 bytes would need to be removed, or accounted for during the initial execute. multiMan has no facility for this.
  2. The initial EBOOT.BIN.elf does contain the 2MB flash contents for the dongle, BUT that would need to be carefully extracted (and has been, it too is available on the ps3devwiki), again multiMan has no facility for this.
  3. The creating of the folder and copying the files into it was just to make this fake seem more real with additional steps. multiMan has no code to ever look inside that directory.
  4. The fact of the matter is that the source code for multiMan was available, and there is NO provisioning in multiMan for "additional" payloads of any kind, the values possible in the .ini file are hard-coded. It is well documented what payloads work with multiMan, and multiMan will only work with those payloads.

You have as much chance loading Windows 9 on the PS3 by using ntldr as payload renamed...

http://pastie.org/private/2dnlv03jlewuyrw9g4he6w

old talk

(seems obsolete and incorrect in many ways)

It seems the ps3jb2 loads masterdiscs with fself, with the algo provided and the right key (which is not provided) you can decrypt said masterdiscs images right on pc and grab the fself files. 

   // do crypt
   unsigned char sector_key[16];
   memset(sector_key, 0, 16);
   sector_key[12] = (sector_num & 0xFF000000)>>24;
   sector_key[13] = (sector_num & 0x00FF0000)>>16;
   sector_key[14] = (sector_num & 0x0000FF00)>> 8;
   sector_key[15] = (sector_num & 0x000000FF)>> 0;
   
   // encrypt sector
   aes_context aes_ctx;
   aes_setkey_enc(&aes_ctx, G_DEBUG_KEY, 128);
   aes_crypt_cbc(&aes_ctx, AES_ENCRYPT, aligned_size, sector_key, buff, buff);
   
   // decrypt
   aes_context aes_ctx;
   aes_setkey_dec(&aes_ctx, G_DEBUG_KEY, 128);
   aes_crypt_cbc(&aes_ctx, AES_DECRYPT, aligned_size, sector_key, buff, buff);

that's the algo for masterdiscs
ps3gen dll has the static keys for masterdiscs
you can also get it from sv_iso
the crappy sdk tool that generates masterdisc images for dex


more talk: 

  folks
  I looked a little more
  and it seems the psjb2 just runs masterdiscs
  with fself
  kinda lame
  very lame
  npdrm encrypted but labeled as fself
  it's a fself but I dunno what it does
  I never looked at it
  I don't really care on doing more
  if you use the masterdisc algo I provided
  and the proper key
  which I am not supplying
  you can decrypt all the psjb2 disc images
  right on pc
  grab the fself
  and use them to run them on a regular 3.55 fw
  basically security == LAME
  still interesting to see how they patched the firmware to allow masterdiscs
  they also do some auth with the dongle
  which involves crypto
  to make sure the firmware does not load without it
  but if you don't need the firmware to load the games...
  they could have added some extra keys in appldr and encrypted the damn eboots at least
  I guess they didn't have enough time or enough spu skills

Regarding FSELF from "RikuKH3": 

  Real FSELFs are never encrypted. You can extract it with official unfself tool from SDK.
  But, in this FSELF I looked into (driver sf) ELF inside IS encrypted. You can say this because it's masterdisc fself, but I really doubt it.
  It doesn't look like a proper fself to me at all, in header it says that sections unecrypted, but it's not true.
  Another thing - Masterdisc Generator tool from Sony gives errors with this EBOOT (if it's a masterdisc eboot as stated, why?).

Seems the above from mathieulh may be incorrect and the eboots ARE encrypted. So much for lame security, maybe this wont be so trivial?

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