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The ingame FMVs with the graphic overlay are still stuttering heavily, though, and I am still unsure why. It seems like the shorter FMVs run fine, and the longer they are they more they have slowdown/stutter. This only applies to the "ingame" FMVs and not the opening ones.
The ingame FMVs with the graphic overlay are still stuttering heavily, though, and I am still unsure why. It seems like the shorter FMVs run fine, and the longer they are they more they have slowdown/stutter. This only applies to the "ingame" FMVs and not the opening ones.
I did some work on it, and it seems to modify read speed. Higher values should give faster read speed. Eventually higher values will give more frequent event checks, but read speed modifier seems to be more probable now when we know default values. To get faster read speed we should use (1, x > 0x400) for CD, and (1, x > 0x1000) for DVD. At this point Shadowman 2 is good test candidate again, just with some really high value. All configs from GX emu looks like they slowing down reads, because values for DVD are below 0x1000, Shadowman2 without config doesn't change anything because this config use default value... Burnout 3 is interesting here, only config that seems to use 0 (yolo read speed) option. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 22:24, 3 July 2023 (CEST) <br>
void MECHA_on_state_3(__int64* mecha)
{
  ReadSectorSize = *(mecha + 0x70);
  if ( !ReadSectorSize )
    panic(1u);
   
  do
    current_tb = get_current_timebase()
  while ( !current_tb );
 
  readed_sectors_count = readed_size_in_bytes / ReadSectorSize;
  readed_sectors_count_mul_by_79800000 = 79800000LL * readed_sectors_count
  tb_for_seek_and_read = *(mecha + 0x18);
  skip = current_tb - tb_for_seek_and_read >= readed_sectors_count_mul_by_79800000 / val_from_cmd_0x0C_1)
 
  if ( cmd_0x0C_0 != 1 || val_from_cmd_0x0C_1 == 0 || skip )
  {
    if ( *(mecha + 0xD4) <= BytesToRead && !*(mecha + 0xE4) )
    {
      *(mecha + 0xD4) = readed_size_in_bytes;
      *mecha_state = 4; // Reading done here. Going to next step.
      return;
    }
    panic(1u);
  }
  set_scheduler(
    5uLL,                                                                              // 5 - CDVD event
    tb_for_seek_and_read + readed_sectors_count_mul_by_79800000 / val_from_cmd_0x0C_1,  // When
    &syscall8_200,                                                                      // Event Handler.
    0LL);                                                                              // unk
}
* Netemu does crash when the first param is set to 0x2.--[[User:Agrippa|Agrippa]] ([[User talk:Agrippa|talk]]) 21:03, 7 July 2023 (CEST)
** No idea why, function that check config compare to 2 and panic if greater than. So '''2''' is accepted at least there. This config is used in 4 places. All of them use next part of config only if this one is '''1'''. 3 places check explicitly for '''1''', one place check for '''0'''. Setting '''2''' is weird from code point of view because it's almost like 0, but allow code to do one check in read function, and to be honest this doesn't look like intentional behavior because similar check is performed earlier in previous N command state, and there is handled properly including setting 1F402006 to error code instead of panic. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 22:31, 7 July 2023 (CEST)


===ps2_netemu command 0x12===
===ps2_netemu command 0x12===
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===ps2_netemu command 0x22===
===ps2_netemu command 0x22===
Weird command. Sets something 1 (CDVD/MECHA), but seems to never use it.
Weird command. Sets something 1 (CDVD/MECHA), but seems to never use it.  
 
===ps2_netemu command 0x29===
===ps2_netemu command 0x28===
Something related with read time, maybe seek time. First value is meant to be lower than second value, but this is not requirement.
This command is heavily stripped version of command from gxemu. On netemu only option that seems to change anything is 0. From what i gathered in emu, when set to 0 SEEK ncmd will to be ignored and instant command ack is set. When 0 is used cdvd.SeekToSector is not updated from NCMD params. For emulated vm this mean next read command will perform seek to sector from position where last read end. Not sure if i'm understanding that correctly, it seems to be very hacky solution.
Code that use it seems to delay some read/seek operation by multiply of first, or second value depending which sector is currently read (or maybe which part of disc actually). Here is code from one of fuctions that use values from that command, keep in mind that "mecha" is just fancy name for cdvd in that emu.
 
if ((75 * cdvd.CrtSecond + 4500 * cdvd.CrtMinute + cdvd.CrtFrame - 150) >= *(mecha.unk_0x60))
After some more work, its either skip seek, or make seek instant. Still a hack, but may give some loading boosts here and there (and break a lot of stuff too).
    a = *(cmd_0x29_val_2);
else
    a = *(cmd_0x29_val_1);
b = 4835703278458516699;        // read https://munroesj52.github.io/vec__int64__ppc_8h.html (search on page for that number).
c = (79800000 * a * b) >> 64;  // 0x4C1A6C0 (79800000) is value that lv1 repo key be.clock return.
d = c >> 18;                    // This and 2 above are generally used as a division by multiply.
e = get_timebase_reg();
if ( e == 0 )
{
  do
    e = get_timebase_reg();
  while ( e == 0 );
}
f = e - *(mecha.unk_0x24);
if ( f >= d )
{
  MECHA_update_status(mecha);
  result = unlock_sc06(0x8000LL);
}
else
{
    do
    e = get_timebase_reg();
  while ( e == 0 );
  *(mecha.unk_20) = d - f + e;
  *mecha.unk_00 = 5;
  result = unlock_sc06(0x8000LL);
}


===ps2_netemu command 0x2A===
===ps2_netemu command 0x2A===
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  b        end_134844
  b        end_134844
Value from 0x20(r31) is later used in compare. That result in cdvd error, or in setting which seems schedule event to happen after time from timebase pass. This event is netemu syscall 8 (0x200) which is related to all ps2 cdvd reads. Tl;dr is that value give emulator some more time before cdvd error. Weird thing is that PS button fix it.. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 07:05, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Value from 0x20(r31) is later used in compare. That result in cdvd error, or in setting which seems schedule event to happen after time from timebase pass. This event is netemu syscall 8 (0x200) which is related to all ps2 cdvd reads. Tl;dr is that value give emulator some more time before cdvd error. Weird thing is that PS button fix it.. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 07:05, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
===ps2_netemu command 0x3D===
Looks like we misunderstood this command earlier, and probably we don't even need it.
There seems to be no emu code that make use of it beside printing config revision. This need confirmation on real hardware. In case that missing 0x3D will fail, it will be good to test at least that is really version enforcer, because i can't find part of code that is eventually responsible for that.
* Some time ago I tested the config with version 0x3D89 which contained commands supported from the version 0x40DC onwards. The console hung up right after LV2 reset.--[[User:Agrippa|Agrippa]] ([[User talk:Agrippa|talk]]) 10:16, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
** Any chance you can test this again? Config parser don't have any check for revision, when it hit 0x3D is just storing value on address that seems to be related only to UI/Menu stuff. While i can imagine some check for overall config version (still I searched and it seems to be none), i can't imagine some additional per command revision check. Which is what your test suggest here. Emulator have only one config parser, one config buffer, and one check for command number (0x51 and above still don't trigger panic yet, just ignore command). I also tried to find version numbers of 15686, 16604, 16808, 16916, 17041, 17179, 17277, 17495 in code (as hex of course), and only 17495 is found in function that is not really related to any check (described here at the end: [[Talk:PS2_Emulation#Netemu_2]] ). [[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 15:06, 24 April 2022 (UTC)--
*** You are right. There is no revision check and the 0x3D command is not needed at all for the config to work.--[[User:Agrippa|Agrippa]] ([[User talk:Agrippa|talk]]) 18:14, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
**** We figured that out 2000 custom configs too late. :D  Anyway, thanks for confirming that. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 17:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
===ps2_netemu command 0x4D===
Leaving this here just in case. Fixed comments version.
0xD7F8 RGBAQ_01_and_11:
0xD7F8
0xD800 move      r80, r3              ; move new values to r80
0xD820 ilhu      r19, 0x7FFF
0xD824 lqr      r20, Q_val_cfg_plus4
0xD82C iohl      r19, 0xFFFF
0xD834 and      r17, r80, r19        ; r17 = Q & 0x7FFFFFFF
0xD840 ceqi      r15, r17, 0          ; if r17 == 0, r15 = 0xFFFFFFF, else 0
0xD844 lqr      r10, ST_Q
0xD84C cwd      r9, 0x30+var_30+8(sp) ; Prepare correct write
0xD850 rotqbyi  r16, r20, 4          ; load cmd value from config to r16
0xD858 and      r12, r15, r16        ; r15 & value_from_cfg
0xD860 or        r5, r80, r12          ; r80(Q) | r12(value from cfg or 0)
0xD868 shufb    r7, r5, r10, r9      ; select ST bits + new Q
0xD870 stqr      r7, ST_Q              ; store result as Q value in STQ


===ps2_gxemu command 0x19===
===ps2_gxemu command 0x19===
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ID match US release of Crazy Taxi. This id is kinda special, because Swap Magic CD version, and some other Datel products like Action Replay use Crazy Taxi TOC in their retail discs.
ID match US release of Crazy Taxi. This id is kinda special, because Swap Magic CD version, and some other Datel products like Action Replay use Crazy Taxi TOC in their retail discs.
Is known that they literally ripped part of disc (with key/logo, and TOC), and frankesteined it with own products.
Is known that they literally ripped part of disc (with key/logo, and TOC), and frankesteined it with own products.
So mentioned check first compare hash, and if that match, then run function that perform another check at disc sector 267559 (0x41527), so exactly where main executable is.  
So mentioned check first compare hash, and if that match, then run function that perform another check at disc sector 267559 (0x41527), so exactly where main executable is.
I didn't figured out what next, but this is probably anti AR/Datel/SM check. What's weird, there seems to be nothing for TimeSplitters2 which if i recall correctly was used for DVD version of Swap Magic.
I didn't figured out what next, but this is probably anti AR/Datel/SM check. What's weird, there seems to be nothing for TimeSplitters2 which if i recall correctly was used for DVD version of Swap Magic.  
<br>There is also check for 0xE794CCB06D  PCPX_980.42  Minna no Tennis entry, emu also refuse to boot it, and throw the same error as with SwapMagic/SCED discs.


==CDVD Commands==
==CDVD Commands==
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* Yes, i don't see why not. Assuming that is static patch to elf file, not some cobra style on the fly patch. But don't expect some magic from that. I don't know too much about RSX and not really much about GS. But PS2 emulation is usually limited by CPU power, specially in native resolution. But for example games that need 0x44 cmd, maybe they will work with smoothing now. Maybe some minor slowdowns will be fixed. I still don't know which parts of GS are emulated on RSX, for example softemu used something similar to pcsx2 software render. So there you will get almost nothing from RSX OC. But netemu is different. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 04:56, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
* Yes, i don't see why not. Assuming that is static patch to elf file, not some cobra style on the fly patch. But don't expect some magic from that. I don't know too much about RSX and not really much about GS. But PS2 emulation is usually limited by CPU power, specially in native resolution. But for example games that need 0x44 cmd, maybe they will work with smoothing now. Maybe some minor slowdowns will be fixed. I still don't know which parts of GS are emulated on RSX, for example softemu used something similar to pcsx2 software render. So there you will get almost nothing from RSX OC. But netemu is different. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 04:56, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
** Tested the 600/750 MHz overclock with a few intensive games (SC3, ToCA3, CMR3, VP2, GT4). Assuming the patches are correctly applied (I have no idea at all), there is no performance boost at all.--[[User:Agrippa|Agrippa]] ([[User talk:Agrippa|talk]]) 15:24, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
** Tested the 600/750 MHz overclock with a few intensive games (SC3, ToCA3, CMR3, VP2, GT4). Assuming the patches are correctly applied (I have no idea at all), there is no performance boost at all.--[[User:Agrippa|Agrippa]] ([[User talk:Agrippa|talk]]) 15:24, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
*** Little bit late, but it seems that GS is almost fully "software" emulated (PPE + BE SPE). It was mistake to not touch ps2_softemu earlier, because that's what helped me to find out that all shaders in netemu are not strictly emulation related. While softemu have Cg shaders for hardware render. --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 14:48, 29 June 2023 (CEST)


== Netemu load/store with r0 register ==
== Netemu load/store with r0 register ==
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* '''Dance Summit 2001: Bust-a-Move'''
* '''Dance Summit 2001: Bust-a-Move'''
** Front buffer is not flushed most of the time. Game seems to apply additional effects there, apart from the downsampling.
** Front buffer is not flushed most of the time. Game seems to apply additional effects there, apart from the downsampling.
* '''Snowblind Engine 2003+ games'''
** Shows the very last "interlaced" frame when switching back to the interlaced mode from progressive one. I thought it could be a VBLANK issue, but that old frame should be long gone by then. The issue seems to be related to the PCRTC. The SMODE2 register is updated in the VBLANK handler. That old frame is shown when the FFMD bit is switched to 1. Looking for better workarounds than delaying the VSYNC or lowering the resolution in 60 fps mode. By the way, the 0x20 command does work with negative values too. Moreover, the max positive value for NTSC is something like 0x106. Anything higher makes the screen freeze on PS2 logo (but the game is working in the background).


== Stuntman/Driv3r research ==
== Stuntman/Driv3r research ==
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  4000 = SPC_PUINT_MB
  4000 = SPC_PUINT_MB
  5000 = SPC_CSR1
  5000 = SPC_CSR1
||
|-
|-
| SPC_CSR  
| SPC_CSR  
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  4000 = SPC_PUINT_MB
  4000 = SPC_PUINT_MB
  5000 = SPC_CSR1
  5000 = SPC_CSR1
||
|-
|-
| SPC_CSR  
| SPC_CSR  
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||
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA70000000
|| 0xAAA70040000
|| 0x4200000000001
|| Thread KRN0:1 (aka BOOT00)
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
|| 0xAAA70040000
|| 0xAAA70080000
|| 0x4200010000001
|| Thread KRN1:1 (aka BOOT01)
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
|| 0xAAA70080000
|| 0xAAA700C0000
|| 0x42000B0000001
|| VU0 stack (used in EEonBE when VU0 is running)
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
|| 0xAAA700C0000  
|| 0xAAA700C0000  
|| 0xAAA70100000  
|| 0xAAA70100000  
|| 0x4200030000001  
|| 0x4200030000001  
|| Thread SYS
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA70100000  
|| 0xAAA70100000  
|| 0xAAA70140000  
|| 0xAAA70140000  
|| 0x4200040000001  
|| 0x4200040000001  
|| Thread VRC
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA70140000  
|| 0xAAA70140000  
|| 0xAAA70180000  
|| 0xAAA70180000  
|| 0x4200050000001  
|| 0x4200050000001  
|| Thread MECHA
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA70180000  
|| 0xAAA70180000  
|| 0xAAA701C0000  
|| 0xAAA701C0000  
|| 0x4200060000001  
|| 0x4200060000001  
|| Thread HDD
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA701C0000  
|| 0xAAA701C0000  
|| 0xAAA70200000  
|| 0xAAA70200000  
|| 0x4200070000001  
|| 0x4200070000001  
|| Thread UI
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA70200000  
|| 0xAAA70200000  
|| 0xAAA70280000  
|| 0xAAA70280000  
|| 0x4200090000001  
|| 0x4200090000001  
|| Thread BL2LNK and BL2MAIN
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA70280000  
|| 0xAAA70280000  
|| 0xAAA702C0000  
|| 0xAAA702C0000  
|| 0x42000A0000001  
|| 0x42000A0000001  
|| Thread USB
||
|-
| ?
|| 0xAAA70080000
|| 0xAAA700C0000
|| 0x42000B0000001
||
|-
|-
| ustack (micro stack)
| ?
|| 0xAAA702C0000  
|| 0xAAA702C0000  
|| 0xAAA70300000  
|| 0xAAA70300000  
|| 0x42000B0000001  
|| 0x42000B0000001  
|| Thread EEonBE
||
|-
| ?
|| 0xAAA70000000
|| 0xAAA70040000
|| 0x4200000000001
||
|-
| ?
|| 0xAAA70040000
|| 0xAAA70080000
|| 0x4200010000001
||
|-
|-
|}
|}
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  0xFFFFFFFFFFFFF0EC = D_STAT          full
  0xFFFFFFFFFFFFF0EC = D_STAT          full
  0xFFFFFFFFFFFFF0F0 = D_STAT upper 16 bits
  0xFFFFFFFFFFFFF0F0 = D_STAT upper 16 bits
== Shaders available in emulators ==
V for Vertex, F for Fragment, P for Pixel
===Netemu===
FontShader  V
FontShader  F
ImageShader  V
ImageShader  F
GaussShader0 V
GaussShader0 F
GaussShader1 V
GaussShader1 F
ScanShader  V
ScanShader  F
additionally 2 unnamed fragment shaders, 1 vertex shader,
and one "hidden" unaligned vertex shader (at 0x950270).
===Softemu===
GS Base Vertex program              V
GS Base Fragment program            P
Page Translate Out Vertex          V
Page Translate In Vertex            V
Page Translate Out Fragment        F
Page Translate Out Fragment_0      F
Page Translate Out PSMCT16 Fragment F
Page Translate Out PSMCT24 Fragment F
Page Translate Out PSMZ16 Fragment  F
Page Translate In Fragment          F
Page Translate In Fragment_0        F
Page Translate In PSMCT16 Fragment  F
Page Translate In PSMZ24 Fragment  F
Page Translate In PSMZ16 Fragment  F
Block PSMCT4 Translate Frag        F
Block PSMCT8 Translate Frag        F
Block PSMCT16 Translate Frag        F
Block PSMCT24 Translate Frag        F
Block PSMCT32 Translate Frag        F
Block PSMZ24 Translate Frag        F
Texture Block Translate Vertex      V
Notice that GS Base Fragment program is really not fragment shader, but pixel shader.
===Gxemu===
CG_fp_dilate        F
CG_fp_shrink        F
CG_fp_adjweave      F
CG_fp_motionadj    F
CG_fp_undither      F
CG_fp_deinterlace  F  x
CG_fp_weave        F
CG_fp_edgeinterp    F
CG_fp_smooth        F
CG_fp_sharpen      F  x
CG_fp_upscale_smart F  x
CG_fp_upscale      F  x
CG_fp_smart        F  x
CG_fp_mofix        F  x
CG_fp_orientation  F  x
CG_fp_gradient      F  x
CG_vpshader        V  x
CG_interlace        F
CG_fpshader16      F
CG_fpshader        F  x
Plus 2 unnamed shaders, one F, one V.<br>
Shaders with "x" are also available in PS1 emulators, and i sucessfully replaced some of them in ps1 emu on rpcs3 for testing purpose.
===Emu===
Ps2emu have available 14 fragment shaders, and 8 vertex shaders. All of them don't give any hint about name or usage.
== Custom command ideas ==
* '''Disable GS downloads.'''<br>
It is definitely a performance improvement for many titles. In theory, easy to implement (force 0x3 TRXDIR value for every 0x1 write instead). The point is, per-game patches are superior and more robust.<br>
* '''Disable PCRTC blur.'''<br>
PCRTC merge circuits are mostly used for pathetic blurry anti-aliasing. Looks awful on modern TV screens (ToCA 3 is unreadable completely). Blending settings are controlled through the PMODE privileged register.
===Discussion===
GS download config is partially done, need little bit more than TRXDIR patch. But this is something we can patch per-game too. Games do very obvious things to reverse VIF1 FIFO, and also BUSDIR write. From there you can disable whole function that need it. Config will be better of course, but HEN users... Anti Blur is kinda easy to do. Writes to DISPLAY1 can write also to 2 and write to 2 also to 1. So they always match, and config implementation will be rather easy. Most games just offset DX/DY, and never touch those regs again. For games that mess with it, more serious approach is needed. But again HEN users are out of luck if we create command for that. It doesn't help that this can be done by EE patches too. What need to be done is removing offset between DISPLAY1 and DISPLAY2.
*Example for TOCA3 SLUS which use hard coded offset:
004C55F0 00000000
004C55F4 00000000
I'm not saying no, but for now i'm kinda lacking of motivation if not so small HEN user base will be out of luck. But more ideas can help with motivation. :P --[[User:Kozarovv|Kozarovv]] ([[User talk:Kozarovv|talk]]) 22:00, 8 August 2023 (CEST)
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