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note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB</pre> | note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB</pre> | ||
==== Personal experience ==== | |||
===== Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) ===== | ===== Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) ===== | ||
* Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive". | * Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive". | ||
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* When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | * When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | ||
* When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total | * When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total | ||
;Conclusion: <span style="color:red | ;Conclusion: <span style="color:red; background-color:white;">>1TB didn't not work.</span> | ||
===== Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM ===== | ===== Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM ===== | ||
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** Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial. | ** Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial. | ||
* Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity | * Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity | ||
;Conclusion: <span style="color:red | ;Conclusion: <span style="color:red; background-color:white;">>1TB didn't not work in normal or recovery mode only with FSM enabled.</span> | ||
===== Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking ===== | ===== Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking ===== | ||
* Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | * Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | ||
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MAX Address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx | MAX Address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx | ||
Free Space 827GB / 931GB | Free Space 827GB / 931GB | ||
;Conclusion: <span style="color:green;"><=1TB works fine in all modi.</span> | ;Conclusion: <span style="color:green; background-color:white;"><=1TB works fine in all modi.</span> | ||
=== maximum size external drive === | === maximum size external drive === | ||
<pre>External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB | <pre>External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB | ||
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== | == AES-256-CBC versus AES-256-XTS == | ||
There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption. | There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption. | ||
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_encryption_theory#XTS XTS - XEX-based Tweaked CodeBook mode] | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_encryption_theory#XTS XTS - XEX-based Tweaked CodeBook mode] | ||
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==Experimental Tables== | ==Experimental Tables== | ||
===HDD partitions=== | ===HDD partitions=== | ||
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: | {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:x-small;" | ||
|+PS3 Hard Disk Drive, partitions and storage regions | |+PS3 Hard Disk Drive, partitions and storage regions | ||
! colspan=6 | Storage Region !! colspan=3 | Access Control List !! colspan=4 | File System !! colspan=5 | Size !! colspan=2 | Usage | ! colspan=6 | Storage Region !! colspan=3 | Access Control List !! colspan=4 | File System !! colspan=5 | Size !! colspan=2 | Usage | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=3 colspan=5 | OtherOS !! rowspan=3 | GameOS !! colspan=2 | [[Secure Profile Loader | Secure Profile]] !! rowspan=3 | Unk !! colspan=3 | | ! rowspan=3 colspan=5 | OtherOS !! rowspan=3 | GameOS !! colspan=2 | [[Secure Profile Loader | Secure Profile]] !! rowspan=3 | Unk ? !! colspan=3 | Official !! Unnofficial !! colspan=4 | Official !! rowspan=3 | Unnofficial<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR /> !! rowspan=3 | Official<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR /> !! rowspan=3 | Unnofficial<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR /> | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=2 | Name !! rowspan=2 | [[ | ! rowspan=2 | Name !! rowspan=2 | [[Authentication_IDs | ACL's]] || colspan=2 | Encryption !! rowspan=2 | Type !! rowspan=2 | Type !! colspan=2 | Decimal || colspan=2 | Hexadecimal | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! FAT !! SLIM !! Bytes !! Sectors !! Bytes !! Sectors | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=21 | ps3d<BR />(3) | ! rowspan=21 | ps3d<BR />(3) | ||
|- {{cellcolors|#9999ff}} | |- {{cellcolors|#9999ff}} | ||
| rowspan=20 | ps3da<BR />(3.0) || colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | rowspan=20 | ps3da<BR />(3.0) || colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 4 KB (4.096) || style="text-align:right;" | 8 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x1000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x8 || Same || colspan=2 | [[Resizing_VFLASH_Storage_Device#Example_Of_An_Unmodified_HDD_Partition_Table | HDD Partition Table]] (Physical HDD Device) | ||
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| rowspan=12 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflash<BR />(3.1) || colspan=2 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS3_LPAR || 1070000001000001<BR />1070000002000001 || 0B<BR />03 || | | rowspan=12 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflash<BR />(3.1) || colspan=2 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS3_LPAR || 1070000001000001<BR />1070000002000001 || 0B<BR />03 || No || No || colspan=2 | Raw access || style="text-align:right;" | 256 MB (268.435.456) || style="text-align:right;" | 524.288 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x10000000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x80000 || Any || colspan=2 | First region of HDD, contains VFLASH. (only NOR) | ||
|- {{cellcolors|#9999ff}} | |- {{cellcolors|#9999ff}} | ||
| rowspan=11 | ps3vflasha<BR />(3.1(1.0)) || colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | rowspan=11 | ps3vflasha<BR />(3.1(1.0)) || colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 4 KB (4.096) || style="text-align:right;" | 8 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x1000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x8 || Same || colspan=2 | [[Dev_Tools#flash_dumper | VFLASH Partition Table]] (Virtual FLASH Device, only NOR) | ||
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| {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashb<BR />(3.1(1.1)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000001000001 || 03 | | {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashb<BR />(3.1(1.1)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000001000001 || 03 || ↑:AES-CBC-192 (ata key)<BR />↓:AES-CBC-128 (encdec key) || ↑:XTS-AES-128 (ata key)<BR />↓:XTS-AES-128 (encdec key) || colspan=2 | Raw access ? || style="text-align:right;" | 14,75 MB (15.462.400) || style="text-align:right;" | 30.200 || style="text-align:right;" | 0xEBF000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x75F8 || Same || colspan=2 | "mirror" of real NOR second region: "ps3nflashb" ? | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 256 KB (262.144) || style="text-align:right;" | 512 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x40000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x200 || Same || colspan=2 | ? | ||
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| {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashc<BR />(3.1(1.2)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH1<BR />dev_flash || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS2_*LPAR || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001<BR />1020000003000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />01 | | {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashc<BR />(3.1(1.2)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH1<BR />dev_flash || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS2_*LPAR || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001<BR />1020000003000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />01 || ↑:AES-CBC-192 (ata key)<BR />↓:AES-CBC-128 (encdec key) || ↑:XTS-AES-128 (ata key)<BR />↓:XTS-AES-128 (encdec key) || colspan=2 | FAT16 || style="text-align:right;" | 199,75 MB (209.453.056) || style="text-align:right;" | 409.088 || style="text-align:right;" | 0xC7C0000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x63E00 || Same || colspan=2 | Firmware files | ||
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| {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashd<BR />(3.1(1.3)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH2<BR />dev_flash2 || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001 || 03<BR />03 | | {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashd<BR />(3.1(1.3)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH2<BR />dev_flash2 || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001 || 03<BR />03 || ↑:AES-CBC-192 (ata key)<BR />↓:AES-CBC-128 (encdec key) || ↑:XTS-AES-128 (ata key)<BR />↓:XTS-AES-128 (encdec key) || colspan=2 | FAT16 || style="text-align:right;" | 16 MB (16.777.216) || style="text-align:right;" | 32.768 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x1000000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x8000 || Same || colspan=2 | XRegistry (Console/User settings) | ||
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| {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashe<BR />(3.1(1.4)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH3<BR />dev_flash3 || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001 || 03<BR />03 | | {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashe<BR />(3.1(1.4)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH3<BR />dev_flash3 || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001 || 03<BR />03 || ↑:AES-CBC-192 (ata key)<BR />↓:AES-CBC-128 (encdec key) || ↑:XTS-AES-128 (ata key)<BR />↓:XTS-AES-128 (encdec key) || colspan=2 | FAT12 || style="text-align:right;" | 512 KB (524.288) || style="text-align:right;" | 1.024 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x80000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x400 || Same || colspan=2 | CRL/DRL (Bluray revocation lists) | ||
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| {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashf<BR />(3.1(1.5)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH4<BR />dev_flash4 ? || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />LINUX_LPAR ||1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001<BR />1080000004000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />03 || ↑:No<BR />↓:No || ↑: | | {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashf<BR />(3.1(1.5)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH4<BR />dev_flash4 ? || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />LINUX_LPAR ||1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001<BR />1080000004000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />03 || ↑:No<BR />↓:No || ↑:No<BR />↓:No || colspan=2 | Raw access || style="text-align:right;" | 4 MB (4.194.304) || style="text-align:right;" | 8.192 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x400000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x2000 || Any || cell_ext_os_area +<BR />OtherOS bootloader<BR /><small>(compressed: otheros.bld)</small> || cell_ext_os_area +<BR />OtherOS++ bootloader<BR /><small>(uncompressed: dtbImage.ps3.bin)</small> | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 4,25 MB (4.456.448) || style="text-align:right;" | 8.704 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x440000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x2200 || Same || colspan=2 | ? | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashg<BR />(3.1(1.6)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000001000001 || 03 | | {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashg<BR />(3.1(1.6)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || SCE_CELLOS_PME || 1070000001000001 || 03 || ↑:AES-CBC-192 (ata key)<BR />↓:AES-CBC-128 (encdec key) || ↑:XTS-AES-128 (ata key)<BR />↓:XTS-AES-128 (encdec key) || colspan=2 | Raw access ? || style="text-align:right;" | 256 KB (262.144) || style="text-align:right;" | 512 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x40000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x200 || Same || colspan=2 | ? | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || rowspan=2 style="text-align:right;" | | | colspan=2 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || rowspan=2 style="text-align:right;" | 16,25 MB (17.039.360) || style="text-align:right;" rowspan=2 | 33.280 || style="text-align:right;" rowspan=2 | 0x1040000 || style="text-align:right;" rowspan=2 | 0x8200 || No ? || colspan=2 | Padding | ||
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| {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashh<BR />(3.1(1.7)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || No || No || No || ↑:No<BR />↓:No || ↑: | | {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3vflashh<BR />(3.1(1.7)) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ? || No || No || No || ↑:No<BR />↓:No || ↑:No<BR />↓:No || Not<BR />used || <small>All supported<BR />by linux kernel</small> || Any || Not used || <small>Linux/FreeBSD for NOR PS3's<BR />Based on graf drivers (deprecated)</small> | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 8 KB (8.192) || style="text-align:right;" | 16 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x2000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x10 || Same ? || colspan=2 | Padding ? | ||
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| colspan=3 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3db<BR />(3.2) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD0<BR />dev_hdd0 || SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS3_LPAR<BR />PS2_*LPAR || 1070000001000001<BR />1070000002000001<BR />1020000003000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />03 | | | colspan=3 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3db<BR />(3.2) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD0<BR />dev_hdd0 || SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS3_LPAR<BR />PS2_*LPAR || 1070000001000001<BR />1070000002000001<BR />1020000003000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />03 || AES-CBC-192 (ata key) || XTS-AES-128 (ata key) || colspan=2 | UFS2 || colspan=5 style="text-align:center;" | Any || colspan=2 | GameOS | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 4 KB (4.096) || style="text-align:right;" | 8 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x1000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x8 || Same ? || colspan=2 | Padding | ||
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| colspan=3 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3dc<BR />(3.3) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD1<BR />dev_hdd1 || SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS3_LPAR || 1070000001000001<BR />1070000002000001 || 03<BR />03 | | | colspan=3 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3dc<BR />(3.3) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD1<BR />dev_hdd1 || SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />PS3_LPAR || 1070000001000001<BR />1070000002000001 || 03<BR />03 || AES-CBC-192 (ata key) || XTS-AES-128 (ata key) || colspan=2 | FAT16 || style="text-align:right;" | 2 GB (2.147.479.552) || style="text-align:right;" | 4.194.296 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x7FFFF000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x3FFFF8 || Same || colspan=2 | GameOS Cache | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 4 KB (4.096) || style="text-align:right;" | 8 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x1000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x8 || Same ? || colspan=2 | Padding | ||
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| colspan=3 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3dd<BR />(3.4) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD2<BR />dev_hdd2 ? || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />LINUX_LPAR || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001<BR />1080000004000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />03 | | | colspan=3 {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} ps3dd<BR />(3.4) || {{cellcolors|#ddddff}} CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD2<BR />dev_hdd2 ? || PS3_LPAR<BR />SCE_CELLOS_PME<BR />LINUX_LPAR || 1070000002000001<BR />1070000001000001<BR />1080000004000001 || 03<BR />03<BR />03 || AES-CBC-192 (ata key) || XTS-AES-128 (ata key) || colspan=2 | <small>All supported<BR />by linux kernel</small> || colspan=4 style="text-align:center;" | 10GB <small>(0x13FFFF8 sectors)</small><BR />All available except 10GB <small>(All - 0x13FFFF8 sectors)</small> || Any || OtherOS<BR /><small>(disabled in firmware 3.21)</small> || <small>Linux/FreeBSD for NAND/NOR PS3's<BR />Based on glevand drivers</small> | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | | | colspan=4 | || colspan=3 | || colspan=4 | || style="text-align:right;" | 4 KB (4.096) || style="text-align:right;" | 8 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x1000 || style="text-align:right;" | 0x8 || Same ? || colspan=2 | Padding | ||
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|} | |} | ||
*This table (pretends to) show all the posible partition layouts in all PS3 models, even when there are 2 big differences that changes partition positions (and consequently region names in Otheros/linux) | *This table (pretends to) show all the posible partition layouts in all PS3 models, even when there are 2 big differences that changes partition positions (and consequently region names in Otheros/linux) | ||
**Flash type | **Flash type | ||
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Experimental attempt to recover deleted files from gameos partition: http://playstationhax.it/forums/topic/826-recovering-deleted-save-games-eid-dumper-troubles-mounting-the-encrypted-ufs2-filesystem/ | Experimental attempt to recover deleted files from gameos partition: http://playstationhax.it/forums/topic/826-recovering-deleted-save-games-eid-dumper-troubles-mounting-the-encrypted-ufs2-filesystem/ | ||
===Speed tests running in PS3 | ===Speed tests running in PS3 nativelly=== | ||
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=DECR (reference tool) and GECR (arcade)= | =DECR (reference tool) and GECR (arcade)= | ||
Uses 3.5" (size) hdd's | Uses 3.5" (size) hdd's | ||
*DECR-1000 - | *DECR-1000 - Seagate Barracuda ST3400832AS, 7200rpm, 400GB, 8MB buffer, SATA 150, 4.16 ms average latency, 8 ms average seek time, +5V 0.46A, +12V 0.56A | ||