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note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB</pre> | note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB</pre> | ||
==== Personal experience ==== | |||
===== Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) ===== | ===== Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) ===== | ||
* Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive". | * Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive". | ||
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* When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | * When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | ||
* When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total | * When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total | ||
;Conclusion: <span style="color:red | ;Conclusion: <span style="color:red; background-color:white;">>1TB didn't not work.</span> | ||
===== Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM ===== | ===== Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM ===== | ||
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** Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial. | ** Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial. | ||
* Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity | * Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity | ||
;Conclusion: <span style="color:red | ;Conclusion: <span style="color:red; background-color:white;">>1TB didn't not work in normal or recovery mode only with FSM enabled.</span> | ||
===== Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking ===== | ===== Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking ===== | ||
* Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | * Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281". | ||
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MAX Address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx | MAX Address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx | ||
Free Space 827GB / 931GB | Free Space 827GB / 931GB | ||
;Conclusion: <span style="color:green;">< | ;Conclusion: <span style="color:green; background-color:white;"><1TB works fine in all modi.</span> | ||
=== maximum size external drive === | === maximum size external drive === | ||
<pre>External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB | <pre>External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB | ||
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* todo: flush out errors, merging in a readable format | * todo: flush out errors, merging in a readable format | ||
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== AES-256-CBC versus AES-256-XTS == | |||
There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption. | There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption. | ||
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_encryption_theory#XTS XTS - XEX-based Tweaked CodeBook mode] | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_encryption_theory#XTS XTS - XEX-based Tweaked CodeBook mode] | ||
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==Experimental Tables== | |||
A collection of productsheets/datasheets renamed and ordered by series http://www.sendspace.com/file/yi4zi6 (fujitsu series are missing) | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+Speed | |+All HDD models are 2.5" and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter, rotating at 5.400 rpm with 512 bytes per sector | ||
! rowspan= | ! rowspan=2 | Manufacturer !! rowspan=2 | Series !! rowspan=2 | Model !! rowspan=2 | Capacity !! rowspan=2 | Rotation Speed<BR />(Platters/Heads) !! rowspan=2 | Buffer !! rowspan=2 | Interface !! rowspan=2 | !! colspan=4 | Seek Speeds !! rowspan=2 | !! colspan=4 | Power Requirements !! rowspan=2 | !! rowspan=2 | Operating<BR />Temp. !! rowspan=2 | Noise<BR />Max !! rowspan=2 | Used in PS3 Models | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! tracks !! latency !! read !! write !! startup !! idle !! read !! write | ||
|- | |- | ||
! colspan=21 | | |||
! colspan= | |||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=3 | Fujitsu | ! rowspan=3 | Fujitsu | ||
! MHW | ! MHW | ||
| [[MHW2040BH]] || || | | [[MHW2040BH]] || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150 |||| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms |||| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHJxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=2 | MHZ | ! rowspan=2 | MHZ | ||
| [[MHZ2080BH]] || || | | [[MHZ2080BH]] || 80 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms |||| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.4 bels || [[CECHKxx]], [[CECHLxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[MHZ2160BH]] || || | | [[MHZ2160BH]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 1.5 ms || ?.?? ms || ?? ms || ?? ms |||| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 2.1 W || 2.1 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHPxx]], [[CECHQxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! colspan= | ! colspan=21 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=4 | Hitachi | ! rowspan=4 | Hitachi | ||
! Travelstar 5K160 | ! Travelstar 5K160 | ||
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || || | | [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150 |||| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms |||| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHHxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Travelstar 5K250 | ! Travelstar 5K250 | ||
| [[HTS542580K9SA00]] || || | | [[HTS542580K9SA00]] || 80 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150 |||| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms |||| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHLxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Travelstar 5K500 | ! Travelstar 5K500 | ||
| [[HTS545012B9SA00]] || || | | [[HTS545012B9SA00]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150 |||| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.80 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.9 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Travelstar Z5K500 | ! Travelstar Z5K500 | ||
| [[HTS545050A7E380]] || || | | [[HTS545050A7E380]] || 500 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 13 ms || 13 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.6 W || 1.6 W |||| 60 ºC || 2.1 bels || [[CECH-40xx]]C | ||
|- | |- | ||
! colspan= | ! colspan=21 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=5 | Seagate | ! rowspan=5 | Seagate | ||
! Momentus 5400.2 | ! Momentus 5400.2 | ||
| [[ST96812AS]] || || | | [[ST96812AS]] || 60 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150 |||| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms |||| 1.1 A || 0.99 W || 1.9 W || 2.3 W |||| 55 ºC || 3.1 bels || [[CECHAxx]], [[CECHCxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Momentus 5400.3 | ! Momentus 5400.3 | ||
| [[ST980811AS]] || || | | [[ST980811AS]] || 80 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150 |||| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 11 ms || 13 ms |||| 1.0 A || 0.75 W || 1.9 W || 1.8 W |||| 60 ºC || 3.2 bels || [[CECHExx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=2 | LD25 SATA | ! rowspan=2 | LD25 SATA | ||
| [[ST920217AS]] || || | | [[ST920217AS]] || 20 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 2 MB || SATA-150 |||| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms |||| 1.0 A || ?.?? W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHBxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[ST9402115AS]] || || | | [[ST9402115AS]] || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150 |||| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms |||| 1.0 A || 2.00 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHGxx]], [[CECHHxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! LD25 5400.2 | ! LD25 5400.2 | ||
| [[ST940210AS]] || || | | [[ST940210AS]] || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150 |||| 1.5 ms || 5.60 ms || 15 ms || 15 ms |||| 1.0 A || 2.50 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W |||| 60 ºC || 2.6 bels || [[CECHJxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! colspan= | ! colspan=21 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=8 | Toshiba | ! rowspan=8 | Toshiba | ||
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX | ! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX | ||
| [[MK8052GSX]] || || | | [[MK8052GSX]] || 80 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W |||| 55 ºC || 25 dBA || [[CECHLxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[MK1652GSX]] || || | | [[MK1652GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W |||| 55 ºC || 25 dBA || [[CECHPxx]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=2 | MKxx55GSX | ! rowspan=2 | MKxx55GSX | ||
| [[MK1255GSX]] || || | | [[MK1255GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[MK2555GSX]] || || | | [[MK2555GSX]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W |||| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]B | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=2 | MKxx65GSX | ! rowspan=2 | MKxx65GSX | ||
| [[MK1665GSX]] || || | | [[MK1665GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W |||| 55 ºC || 20 dBA || [[CECH-25xx]]A | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[MK3265GSX]] || || | | [[MK3265GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W |||| 55 ºC || 20 dBA || [[CECH-25xx]]B | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan=2 | MKxx76GSX | ! rowspan=2 | MKxx76GSX | ||
| [[MK1676GSX]] || || | | [[MK1676GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W |||| 55 ºC || 20 dBA || [[CECH-30xx]]A | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[MK3276GSX]] || || | | [[MK3276GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300 |||| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms |||| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W |||| 55 ºC || 20 dBA || [[CECH-30xx]]B | ||
|- | |- | ||
! colspan= | ! colspan=21 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
== | *Meassuring units notes | ||
**Watts = Amps * volts (or... Amps = Watts / Volts) | |||
**There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared | |||
*PS3 models missing in the table: | |||
**[[CECHMxx]] 80GB <--- Toshiba [[MK8052GSX]], or fujitsu [[MHZ2080BH]], or hitachi [[HTS542580K9SA00]] ? | |||
**[[CECH-21xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1255GSX]] ? | |||
**[[CECH-21xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] ? | |||
**[[CECH-25xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1255GSX]] ? | |||
**[[CECH-25xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] ? | |||
**[[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB <--- Flash storage NAND ? | |||
**[[CECH-40xx]]B 250GB <--- hitachi Travelstar (Z5K500 series) - [[HTS545025A7E380]] (1 head), or toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] (old) ? | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
! | |+PC Speed Tests | ||
! rowspan=2 | Manufacturer !! rowspan=2 | Series !! rowspan=2 | Model !! rowspan=2 | !! colspan=5 | HDtune !! rowspan=2 | !! colspan=3 | HDtach !! rowspan=2 | !! colspan=2 | ATTO !! rowspan=2 | !! PassMark !! rowspan=2 | !! rowspan=2 | Notes/Links | |||
|- | |- | ||
! min !! max !! average !! access !! burst !! average !! burst !! access !! write !! read !! score | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! colspan=20 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! rowspan=3 | Fujitsu | ||
! MHW | |||
| [[MHW2040BH]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! rowspan=2 | MHZ | ||
| [[MHZ2080BH]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | [[MHZ2160BH]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | ||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! colspan=20 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! rowspan=4 | Hitachi | ||
! Travelstar 5K160 | |||
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! Travelstar 5K250 | ||
| [[HTS542580K9SA00]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! Travelstar 5K500 | ||
| [[HTS545012B9SA00]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! Travelstar Z5K500 | ||
| [[HTS545050A7E380]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! colspan=20 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! rowspan=5 | Seagate | ||
! Momentus 5400.2 | |||
| [[ST96812AS]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! Momentus 5400.3 | ||
| [[ST980811AS]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! rowspan=2 | LD25 SATA | ||
| [[ST920217AS]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | [[ST9402115AS]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | ||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! LD25 5400.2 | ||
| [[ST940210AS]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! colspan=20 | | ||
|- | |||
! rowspan=8 | Toshiba | |||
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX | |||
| [[MK8052GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |||
| [[MK1652GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan=2 | MKxx55GSX | |||
| [[MK1255GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | [[MK2555GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | ||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! rowspan=2 | MKxx65GSX | ||
| [[MK1665GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | [[MK3265GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | ||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! rowspan=2 | MKxx76GSX | ||
| [[MK1676GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | |||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | [[MK3276GSX]] |||| || || || || |||| || || |||| || |||| || | ||
! www... | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | ! colspan=20 | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||