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This table shows the similarities/differences between the values within the eCID, board_id and kiban_id of which are a [[Flash:Individual_System_Data_-_cISD#cISD1|0x34 length string]]. | This table shows the similarities/differences between the values within the eCID, board_id and kiban_id of which are a [[Flash:Individual_System_Data_-_cISD#cISD1|0x34 length string]]. | ||
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! colspan="21" | eCID | ! colspan="21" | eCID !! colspan="3" | board_id !! colspan="5" | kiban_id | ||
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! 01 !! C !! A, 5, D | ! 01 !! C !! A, 5, D | ||
! colspan="4" | Random | ! colspan="4" | Random | ||
! 0, 1, 2 !! Random !! 7 !! 0, 1 !! E, 8 !! 0, 1 !! Random !! 0, 1 !! Random !! Random !! 4, C !! 0, 2 !! 000000 !! 00, 20, 10 !! | ! 0, 1, 2 !! Random !! 7 !! 0, 1 !! E, 8 !! 0, 1 !! Random !! 0, 1 !! Random !! Random !! 4, C !! 0, 2 !! 000000 !! 00, 20, 10 !! 274 !! 5, 3 !! Random !! 4, 3 | ||
! colspan="4" | Random | ! colspan="4" | Random | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 18 || 0 || 1 || 23 || 0 || 56 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 0 || A || 0 || 3 || C2 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 20 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 18 || 0 || 1 || 23 || 0 || 56 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 0 || A || 0 || 3 || C2 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 20 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 3 || 8416 || 4 || 0 || 0 || 61578748 || 5 | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 20 || 0 || 3 || 0D || 0 || 92 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 0A || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 20 || 0 || 3 || 0D || 0 || 92 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 0A || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 5 || 3466 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 32050646 || 5 | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 24 || 0 || 0 || DE || 0 || DF || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 1 || 1 || 0 || F || 12 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 24 || 0 || 0 || DE || 0 || DF || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 1 || 1 || 0 || F || 12 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 5 || 6516 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 71965586 || 3 | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 04 || B || 7 || 42 || 1 || 07 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || 7 || 0 || B || 91 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 04 || B || 7 || 42 || 1 || 07 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || 7 || 0 || B || 91 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 5 || 6516 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 61937641 || 4 | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 00 || 2 || 6 || 80 || 2 || 41 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || B || 0 || B || 34 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 10 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 00 || 2 || 6 || 80 || 2 || 41 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || B || 0 || B || 34 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 10 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 3 || 6467 || 3 || L || E || 10338534 || B | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 04 || 4 || 5 || 02 || 2 || 08 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || C || 1 || 3 || C9 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 04 || 4 || 5 || 02 || 2 || 08 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || C || 1 || 3 || C9 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 5 || 3023 || 3 || H || G || 14397490 || D | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || D || 05 || D || 1 || 41 || 0 || 46 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || D || 1 || 4 || EC || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || D || 05 || D || 1 || 41 || 0 || 46 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || D || 1 || 4 || EC || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 5 || 5123 || 3 || H || H || 11149860 || D | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || D || 06 || 1 || 5 || 01 || 1 || 43 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 9 || 90 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || D || 06 || 1 || 5 || 01 || 1 || 43 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 9 || 90 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 5 || 6405 || 3 || J || 5 || N2314209 || F | ||
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| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 01 || 2 || 3 || 41 || 1 || 02 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 1 || 1 || 0 || A || E7 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 20 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} | | {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 01 || 2 || 3 || 41 || 1 || 02 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 1 || 1 || 0 || A || E7 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 20 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 274 || 3 || 8416 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 00067581 || 5 | ||
|- {{cellcolors|black|white}} | |- {{cellcolors|black|white}} | ||
| colspan="10" | | | colspan="10" | /!\ speculation row /!\ || colspan="2" | counter 1 ? || colspan="2" | counter 2 ? || colspan="2" | counter 3 ? || colspan="13" | /!\ speculation row /!\ | ||
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**the marked columns with "counters" is because all the values of this cells seems to be related, all them seems to be small values as small as 0x03 and never bigger than 0x20 | **the marked columns with "counters" is because all the values of this cells seems to be related, all them seems to be small values as small as 0x03 and never bigger than 0x20 | ||
== cISD1 relative offset 0x44 (unknown) == | |||
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== cISD1 relative offset 0x44 ( | |||
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! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />NOR:3F0A4<br />NAND:908A4</small> | ! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />NOR:3F0A4<br />NAND:908A4</small> !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+2</small> !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+4</small> !! colspan="3" | Other info from the same dump/console | ||
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! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes | ! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes | ||
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| 00 56 || 00 56 || 00 86 || 06 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x]] minver 1.97 | | 00 56 || 00 56 || 00 86 || 06 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x]] minver 1.97 | ||
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| 00 62 || 00 62 || 00 90 || 03 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} refurbished [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.97 | | 00 62 || 00 62 || 00 90 || 03 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} refurbished [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.97 | ||
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| 00 87 || 00 87 || 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70 | | 00 87 || 00 87 || 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70 | ||
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| 00 87 || 00 87 || 01 | | 00 87 || 00 87 || 01 16 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]] minver 2.30 | ||
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| 00 91 || 00 91 || 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70 | | 00 91 || 00 91 || 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70 | ||
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| 01 23 || 01 23 || 01 52 || 0B || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.60 | | 01 23 || 01 23 || 01 52 || 0B || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.60 | ||
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| 01 31 || 01 31 || 01 60 || 0C || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-30xx]] [[KTE-00x]] minver 3.60 | | 01 31 || 01 31 || 01 60 || 0C || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-30xx]] [[KTE-00x]] minver 3.60 | ||
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== cISD1 relative offset 0x50 (unknown) == | == cISD1 relative offset 0x50 (unknown) == | ||
Note some non-retail models uses "newer" bootloader versions than the retail models of the same production time, for this reason this table is ordered by: HWID--->unknowns--->bootloader | Note some non-retail models uses "newer" bootloader versions than the retail models of the same production time, for this reason this table is ordered by: HWID--->unknowns--->bootloader | ||
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! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />NOR:3F0B0<br />NAND:908B0</small> | ! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />NOR:3F0B0<br />NAND:908B0</small> !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+2</small> !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+4</small> !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+6</small> !! colspan="3" | Other info from the same dump/console | ||
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! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes | ! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes | ||
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|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | |- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} | ||
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 03 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357#Namco System 357B|Namco System 357B]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]] | | {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 03 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357#Namco System 357B|Namco System 357B]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]] | ||
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]<!--// including defyboy NOR reference dump //--> minver 2.45 | | 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]<!--// including defyboy NOR reference dump //--> minver 2.45 | ||
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=== Discussion / controversy / speculation === | === Discussion / controversy / speculation === | ||
* 0x50 : <code>00 01</code> in all retail motherboards before SEM-001, <code>00 02</code> in all retail motherboards after SEM-001, while <code>FF FF</code> denotes nonretail {{ARC}} {{DEX}} consoles, and <code>20 01</code> is prototype ? | There is no cISD/Idlog area on CEB-xxxx units, instead CBE individuals are written on NOR (8MB NOR in use) as part of the individual_info file; each individual is random and is 0x24 in size. | ||
* 0x50 : <code>00 01</code> in all retail motherboards before SEM-001, <code>00 02</code> in all retail motherboards after SEM-001, while <code>FF FF</code> denotes nonretail {{ARC}} {{DEX}} consoles, and <code>20 01</code> is prototype ? | |||
**PS2 compatibility ? (SEM-001 is the first motherboard where PS2 hardware compatibility was completly removed) http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Motherboard_Revisions | **PS2 compatibility ? (SEM-001 is the first motherboard where PS2 hardware compatibility was completly removed) http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Motherboard_Revisions | ||
**Multicard reader ? (SEM-001 is the first motherboard where multicard reader was removed) http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/MultiCardReader | **Multicard reader ? (SEM-001 is the first motherboard where multicard reader was removed) http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/MultiCardReader | ||
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**software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard) | **software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard) | ||
**bluray related ? (arcade doesnt have bluray) | **bluray related ? (arcade doesnt have bluray) | ||
**production line related (2001=prototype, 0001=preproduction, 0002=production, 0003=licensed production) | **production line related (2001=prototype, 0001=preproduction, 0002=production, 0003=licensed production) | ||
* 0x56 : always <code>00 12</code> on final release models (including {{DEX}} and {{ARC}}), <code>00 11</code> on preretail models | * 0x56 : always <code>00 12</code> on final release models (including {{DEX}} and {{ARC}}), <code>00 11</code> on preretail models | ||
**software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard) | **software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard) | ||