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== cISD1 relative offset 0x10 (eCID, Board ID, and Kiban ID) ==  
== cISD1 0x44 ==
This table shows the similarities/differences between the values within the eCID, board_id and kiban_id of which are a [[Flash:Individual_System_Data_-_cISD#cISD1|0x34 length string]].
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{|class="wikitable"
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! colspan="21" | eCID !! rowspan="11" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! colspan="3" | board_id !! rowspan="11" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! colspan="5" | kiban_id !! rowspan="11" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! rowspan="2" | hardware id <br>(8th byte of IDPS) !! rowspan="2" | Console region
|-
! 01 !! C !! A, 5, D
! colspan="4" | Random
! 0, 1, 2 !! Random !! 7 !! 0, 1 !! E, 8 !! 0, 1 !! Random !! 0, 1 !! Random !! Random !! 4, C !! 0, 2 !! 000000 !! 00, 20, 10 !! 27 !! 42, 43, 44, 45, 46 !! Random !! 4, 3
! colspan="4" | Random
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 18 || 0 || 1 || 23 || 0 || 56 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 0 || A || 0 || 3 || C2 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 20 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 43 || 8416 || 4 || 0 || 0 || 61578748 || 5 || ? || ?
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 20 || 0 || 3 || 0D || 0 || 92 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 0A || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 45 || 3466 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 32050646 || 5 || ? || ?
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || 5 || 24 || 0 || 0 || DE || 0 || DF || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || {{cellcolors|red}} 0 || {{cellcolors|red}} E || 1 || 1 || 0 || F || 12 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 45 || 6516 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 71965586 || 3 || ? || ?
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 04 || B || 7 || 42 || 1 || 07 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || 7 || 0 || B || 91 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 45 || 6516 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 61937641 || 4 || ? || ?
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 00 || 2 || 6 || 80 || 2 || 41 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || B || 0 || B || 34 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 10 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 43 || 6467 || 3 || L || E || 10338534 || B || ? || ?
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 04 || 4 || 5 || 02 || 2 || 08 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || C || 1 || 3 || C9 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 45 || 3023 || 3 || H || G || 14397490 || D || ? || ?
|-
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || D || 05 || D || 1 || 41 || 0 || 46 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 0 || D || 1 || 4 || EC || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 45 || 5123 || 3 || H || H || 11149860 || D || ? || ?
! Value<small><br />NOR:3F0A4<br />NAND:908A4</small> !! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| 20 01 20 01 20 01 || 01 || 2A 7F || preretail ?DEH-H1001-D? [[COK-00x#COK-001|COOKIE13]]<!--// 00 00 00 01 00 83 00 01 10 00 00 5A 17 CD E0 F5 //-->
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| 00 08 00 08 00 05 || 01 || 2A 1A || preretail [[DEH-H1000A-E]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|-
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || D || 06 || 1 || 5 || 01 || 1 || 43 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 9 || 90 || 4 || 2 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 00 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 45 || 6405 || 3 || J || 5 || N2314209 || F || ? || ?
| 00 11 00 11 00 12 || 02 || 2A 2A || [[CECHBxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| 00 13 00 13 00 18 || 01 || 2A 2A || nonretail [[DECHAxx]] ([[COK-00x|COK-001]])
|-
|-
| {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 01 || C || A || 01 || 2 || 3 || 41 || 1 || 02 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 7 || 1 || 8 || 1 || 1 || 0 || A || E7 || 4 || 0 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 000000 || 20 || {{cellcolors|lightblue}} 27 || 43 || 8416 || 4 || 0 || 1 || 00067581 || 5 || ? || ?
| 00 13 00 13 00 22 || 01 || 2A 2A || [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|- {{cellcolors|black|white}}
| colspan="10" |  || colspan="2" | counter 1 ? || colspan="2" | counter 2 ? || colspan="2" | counter 3 ? || colspan="7" | || chassis type ? || colspan="10" |
|-
|-
|}
| 00 19 00 19 00 28 || 01 || 2A 37 || [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
 
*eCID, Board ID, and Kiban ID regular expression (regex) based on 300+ dumps
[0][1][CDE8][0459ABCDF][012][014568C][0-9A-Z][012345678][01245689CDE][0-9A-Z][012][01245689CDE][0-9A-Z][7][01][8E][01][0-9A-Z][01][0-9A-Z][0-9A-Z][0-9A-Z][4C][02][0][0][0][0][0][0][012][0][2][7][4][23456][023456789][0-9][0-9][0-9][134][05LHJ][0125BDGEFKH][01345678AN][01234567][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][12345678ABCDEFGJ]
 
=== Discussion / controversy / speculation ===
* 0E and 18 looks like a counter in hexadecimal (when converted to decimal are 14 and 24) that increases and creates 2 groups (based on manufacturing date and related with some kind of software/hardware version/revision?), if this is true is posible to start ordering the examples chronologically and if the limits of this area are correct are also defining the positions at his left and right for the previous and next values stored
 
*If the values at the right of 0E and 18 are related with them we can use them as a "subversion" to make a better reorder (so 0E has subversions 0A, 0E, 11 and so on... and 18 has subversions 07, 0B, 0C, 0D, 10, 11, and so on)
 
*The 0E areas in red (marked as pairs) could be used to mark "non-retail" models, missing parts, or missing/unlocked features ?
 
*In lightblue are the values that seems to be static and limits the position of other values at his left and right
 
*The "speculation row" in black at bottom is just to avoid modifying the table too much, feel free to fast edit, erase or add others with other brainstormings
**the marked columns with "counters" is because all the values of this cells seems to be related, all them seems to be small values as small as 0x03 and never bigger than 0x20
 
*Suggestion: The board_id and kiban_id should be compared based on the hardware id <!--8th byte of IDPS--> and maybe also the region of the console to show the similarities between the same hardware/board.
 
== cISD1 relative offset 0x44 (BootLoaderVersion) ==
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! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />NOR:3F0A4<br />NAND:908A4</small> !! rowspan="100" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+2</small> !! rowspan="100" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+4</small> !! rowspan="100" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! colspan="3" | Other info from the same dump/console
| 00 19 00 19 00 28 || 03 || 2A 37 || [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|-
|-
! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes
| 00 25 00 25 00 34 || 03 || 2A 37 || [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} 20 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} 20 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} 20 01 || 01 || 2A 7F || {{CEX}} preretail ?[[DEH-H1001-D]]? ([[COK-00x#COK-001|COOKIE13]])<!--// 00 00 00 01 00 83 00 01 10 00 00 5A 17 CD E0 F5 //-->
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 01 || 00 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 01 || 2A 80 || {{DECR}} [[DECR-1000]] [[TMU-520|TMU-520]]<!--// September 2008//-->
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 01 || 00 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 01 || 2C FE || {{SD}} [[DEH-Z1010]] [[TMU-520|TMU-520]]<!--// January 2006//-->
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 08 || 00 08 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 05 || 01 || 2A 1A || {{DEX}} preretail [[DEH-H1000A]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|-
|-
| 00 11 || 00 11 || 00 12 || 02 || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECHBxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
| 00 28 00 28 00 38 || 01 || 2A 3F || [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 13 || 00 13 || 00 18 || 01 || 2A 2A || {{DEX}} nonretail [[DECHAxx]] ([[COK-00x|COK-001]])
|-
|-
| 00 13 || 00 13 || 00 22 || 01 || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
| 00 28 00 28 00 38 || 03 || 2A 3F || [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|-
|-
| 00 19 || 00 19 || 00 28 || 01 || 2A 37 || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
| 00 31 00 31 00 41 || 03 || 30 44 || refurbished [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
|-
|-
| 00 19 || 00 19 || 00 28 || 03 || 2A 37 || {{CEX}} [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
| 00 31 00 31 00 41 || 03 || 30 44 || [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|-
|-
| 00 25 || 00 25 || 00 34 || 03 || 2A 37 || {{CEX}} [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
| 00 39 00 39 00 49 || 05 || 2E 8C || [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| 00 39 00 39 00 51 || 04 || 2E 8C || [[Namco System 357]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|-
|-
| 00 28 || 00 28 || 00 38 || 01 || 2A 3F || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
| 00 45 00 45 00 67 || 05 || 2F 1C || [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]<!--// model not a typo //-->
|-
|-
| 00 28 || 00 28 || 00 38 || 03 || 2A 3F || {{CEX}} [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
| 00 45 00 45 00 67 || 05 || 2F 1C || [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 31 || 00 31 || 00 41 || 03 || 30 44 || {{CEX}} refurbished [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
|-
|-
| 00 31 || 00 31 || 00 41 || 03 || 30 44 || {{CEX}} [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
| 00 47 00 47 00 71 || 05 || 2E F4 || [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]
|-
|-
| 00 39 || 00 39 || 00 49 || 05 || 2E 8C || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]] minver 1.90
| 00 47 00 47 00 71 || 06 || 2E F4 || [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 39 || 00 39 || 00 51 || 04 || 2E 8C || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357#Namco System 357A|Namco System 357A]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|-
|-
| 00 45 || 00 45 || 00 67 || 05 || 2F 1C || {{CEX}} [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]<!--// model not a typo //--> minver 1.90
| 00 52 00 52 00 71 || 06 || 2E F4 || [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 45 || 00 45 || 00 67 || 05 || 2F 1C || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]] minver 1.90
| 00 54 00 54 00 80 || 07 || 2E F4 || [[CECHJxx]] [[DIA-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 47 || 00 47 || 00 71 || 05 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]] minver 1.90
| 00 62 00 62 00 90 || 03 || 2E E3 || [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] refurbished minver 1.97
|-
|-
| 00 47 || 00 47 || 00 71 || 06 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x]] minver 1.97
| 00 62 00 62 00 92 || 07 || 2E E3 || [[CECHJxx]] [[DIA-00x]]
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| 00 66 00 66 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || [[Namco System 357]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]
|-
|-
| 00 52 || 00 52 || 00 71 || 06 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x]] minver 1.97
| 00 66 00 66 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]
|-
|-
| 00 54 || 00 54 || 00 80 || 07 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHJxx]] [[DIA-00x]] minver 2.30
| 00 66 00 66 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || [[CECHPxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| 00 68 00 68 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || nonretail [[DECHJxx]] [[DIA-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 56 || 00 56 || 00 86 || 06 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x]] minver 1.97
| 00 73 00 73 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]]<!--// including defyboy NOR reference dump //-->
|-{{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 60 || 00 60 || 00 88 || 08 || 2E E3 || {{SD}} {{DEX}} Vertigo DEH-FJ1500A-J
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 62 || 00 62 || 00 90 || 03 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} refurbished [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.97
|-
|-
| 00 62 || 00 62 || 00 92 || 07 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHJxx]] [[DIA-00x]]
| 00 79 00 79 01 06 || 08 || 2E B3 || [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 66 || 00 66 || 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357#Namco System 357B|Namco System 357B]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]
|-
|-
| 00 66 || 00 66 || 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]] minver 2.45
| 00 85 00 85 01 06 || 08 || 2F 13 || [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 66 || 00 66 || 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHPxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]] minver 2.45
| 00 85 00 85 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 68 || 00 68 || 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || {{DEX}} nonretail [[DECHJxx]] [[DIA-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 73 || 00 73 || 00 96 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]]<!--// including defyboy NOR reference dump //--> minver 2.45
| 00 87 00 87 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 79 || 00 79 || 01 06 || 08 || 2E B3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]] minver 2.45
| 00 91 00 91 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 85 || 00 85 || 01 06 || 08 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]] minver 2.30
| 00 99 00 99 01 18 || 09 || 2F 3B || [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 85 || 00 85 || 01 06 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{DECR}} [[DECR-1400]] [[DEB-00x|DEB-001]]<!--// Dump from Mathieulh //--> minver 2.60
|-
| 00 85 || 00 85 || 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70
|-
|-
| 00 87 || 00 87 || 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70
| 01 01 01 01 01 24 || 0A || 2F 4B || [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 87 || 00 87 || 01 06 || 08 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]] minver 2.30
| 01 01 01 01 01 28 || 0A || 2F 4B || [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 91 || 00 91 || 01 14 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70
| 01 07 01 07 01 28 || 0A || 2F 4B || [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]]
|-
|-
| 00 99 || 00 99 || 01 18 || 09 || 2F 3B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70
| 01 07 01 07 01 34 || 0B || 2F 4B || [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]]
|-
|-
| 01 01 || 01 01 || 01 24 || 0A || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]] minver 3.20
| 01 11 01 11 01 38 || 0B || 2F 4B || [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] Minver 3.40
|-
|-
| 01 01 || 01 01 || 01 28 || 0A || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]] minver 3.20
| 01 11 01 11 01 40 || 03 || 2F 4B || [[COK-00x#COK-002W|COK-002W]] refurbished minver 3.40
|-
|-
| 01 07 || 01 07 || 01 28 || 0A || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]] minver 3.40
| 01 13 01 13 01 42 || 0B || 2F 53 || [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] Minver 3.50
|-
|-
| 01 07 || 01 07 || 01 34 || 0B || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.40
| 01 21 01 21 01 50 || 0B || 2F 5B || [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] Minver 3.56
|-
|-
| 01 11 || 01 11 || 01 38 || 0B || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.40
| 01 31 01 31 01 60 || 0C || 2F 4B || [[CECH-30xx]] [[KTE-00x]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 01 11 || 01 11 || 01 40 || 03 || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} refurbished [[COK-00x#COK-002W|COK-002W]] minver 3.40
|-
|-
| 01 13 || 01 13 || 01 42 || 0B || 2F 53 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.50
| 01 31 01 31 01 60 || 0C || 2F FB || [[CECH-30xx]] [[KTE-00x]]
|-
| 01 21 || 01 21 || 01 50 || 0B || 2F 5B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.56
|-
| 01 23 || 01 23 || 01 52 || 0B || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.60
|-
| 01 29 || 01 29 || 01 58 || 0C || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-30xx]] [[KTE-00x]] minver 3.60
|-
| 01 31 || 01 31 || 01 60 || 0C || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-30xx]] [[KTE-00x]] minver 3.60
|-
| 01 65 || 01 65 || 01 80 || 0D || 30 1B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-40xx]] [[MPX-00x]] minver ?4.10?
|-
|-
|}
|}


=== Discussion / controversy / speculation ===
=== Discussion / controversy / speculation and dreaming ===
Looks like 3 "counters" with a length of 2 bytes each. Yet being the first and second value always equal and the third bigger (except in some non-retail models). The values stored are in decimal and increases chronologically based in release/repair date
Looks like 3 "counters" with a length of 2 bytes each. Yet being the first and second value always equal. The value stored is in decimal (note when values increases over 99), and increases chronologically based in release/repair date


Are not hardware identifyers because refurbished ps3's uses big values (ps3 models that had some kind of "software surgery" in a repair center)
Are not hardware identifyers because refurbished ps3's uses big values (ps3 models that had some kind of "software surgery" in a repair center)
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**<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">datecodes/months/quarters</span>
**<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">datecodes/months/quarters</span>
**loaders/firmware ID's
**loaders/firmware ID's
**Syscon "second" rom firmware version <!-- normal update updates only bank 1, bank 2 is untouched -->
**<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">sizes (of something that always increases)</span>
**<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">sizes (of something that always increases)</span>
--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] 18:12, 13 December 2012 (MSK)


== cISD1 relative offset 0x50 (unknown) ==
== cISD1 0x50 ==
Note some non-retail models uses "newer" bootloader versions than the retail models of the same production time, for this reason this table is ordered by: HWID--->unknowns--->bootloader
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />NOR:3F0B0<br />NAND:908B0</small> !! rowspan="100" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+2</small> !! rowspan="100" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+4</small> !! rowspan="100" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! rowspan="2" | Unknown<small><br />+6</small> !! rowspan="100" {{cellcolors|#000000}} !! colspan="3" | Other info from the same dump/console
! Value<small><br />NOR:3F0B0<br />NAND:908B0</small> !! Value<small><br />+2</small> !! Value<small><br />+4</small> !! Value<small><br />+6</small> !! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes
|-
|-
! HWID<small><br />NOR:2F077<br />NAND:80877</small> !! bootldr !! Notes
| || || || ||  
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} 20 01 || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 20 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 11 || 01 || 2A 7F || {{CEX}} <!--// 00 00 00 01 00 83 00 01 10 00 00 5A 17 CD E0 F5 //--> preretail ?[[DEH-H1001-D]]? ([[COK-00x#COK-001|COOKIE13]]) <!-- DEH is normally DEX, CBEH is CEX + installing of DEX FW works -->
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 11 || 01 || 2A 1A || {{DEX}} preretail [[DEH-H1000A]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 11 || 01 || 2A 80 || {{DECR}} nonretail [[DECR-1000]] ([[TMU-520|TMU-520]])
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 11 || 01 || 2C FE || {{SD}} nonretail [[DEH-Z1010]] ([[TMU-520|TMU-520]])
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 2A || {{DEX}} nonretail [[DECHAxx]] ([[COK-00x|COK-001]])
|-
|-
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
 
 
 
 
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|-
|-
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 37 || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 02 || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECHBxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
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| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 3F || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 37 || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
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| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 02 || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECHBxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]] minver 1.00
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2A 37 || {{CEX}} [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
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| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2A 37 || {{CEX}} [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 3F || {{CEX}} [[CECHAxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
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| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2A 3F || {{CEX}} [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2A 3F || {{CEX}} [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} refurbished [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.97
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 01 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 12 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} refurbished [[COK-00x#COK-002W|COK-002W]] minver 3.40
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 30 44 || {{CEX}} refurbished [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
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| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 30 44 || {{CEX}} [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHExx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] refurbished minver 1.97
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 03 || 00 12 || 04 || 2E 8C || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357#Namco System 357A|Namco System 357A]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2E 8C || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]] minver 1.90
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 30 44 || {{CEX}} [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]] minver 1.90
| 00 01 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 30 44 || {{CEX}} refurbished [[CECHCxx]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]] minver 1.00
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2F 1C || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]] minver 1.90
| 00 01 || 00 12 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 03 || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[COK-00x#COK-002W|COK-002W]] refurbished minver 3.40
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2F 1C || {{CEX}} [[CECHExx]] * [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]<!--// model not a typo, this needs sone visible note, is a refurbished ? //--> minver 1.90
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2E 8C || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 06 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x#DIA-001|DIA-001]] minver 1.97
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 06 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x#DIA-001|DIA-001]] minver 1.97
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2F 1C || {{CEX}} [[CECHGxx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 06 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHJxx]] [[DIA-00x#DIA-001|DIA-002]] minver 2.30
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 05 || 2F 1C || {{CEX}} [[CECHExx]] [[SEM-00x|SEM-001]]<!--// model not a typo //-->
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 07 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHKxx]] [[DIA-00x#DIA-002|DIA-002]] minver 1.97
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 06 || 2E F4 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x#DIA-001|DIA-001]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{DEX}} nonretail [[DECHJxx]] [[COK-00x#DIA-002|DIA-002]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || {{cellcolors|red}} 00 03 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357#Namco System 357B|Namco System 357B]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E E3 || {{SD}} {{DEX}} [[VER-00x|VER-001]] Vertigo DEH-FJ1500A-J
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]<!--// including defyboy NOR reference dump //--> minver 2.45
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 06 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHHxx]] [[DIA-00x#DIA-001|DIA-001]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHPxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]] minver 2.45
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 07 || 2E E3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHKxx]] [[DIA-00x#DIA-002|DIA-002]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E B3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]] minver 2.45
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E B3 || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x]] minver 2.30
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHLxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]<!--// including defyboy NOR reference dump //-->
|- {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| {{cellcolors|red}} FF FF || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{DECR}} nonretail [[DECR-1400]] ([[DEB-00x|DEB-001]])
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 09 || 2F 13 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{CEX}} [[CECHPxx]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 09 || 2F 3B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]] minver 2.70
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 09 || 2F 3B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-20xx]] [[DYN-00x]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0A || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]] minver 3.20
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0A || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECH-21xx]] [[SUR-00x]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0B || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.40
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0B || 2A 2A || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]]
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0B || 2F 53 || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.50
 
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0B || 2F 5B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.56
| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0B || 2F 4B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JSD-00x]] minver 3.40
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0B || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-25xx]] [[JTP-00x]]/[[JSD-00x]] minver 3.60
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0C || 2F FB || {{CEX}} [[CECH-30xx]] [[KTE-00x]] minver 3.60
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| 00 02 || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 0D || 30 1B || {{CEX}} [[CECH-40xx]] [[MPX-00x]] minver ?4.10?
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| FF FF || 00 11 || 00 01 || 00 11 || 01 || 2A 1A || {{DEX}} preretail [[DEH-H1000A-E]] [[COK-00x#COK-001|COK-001]]
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| 20 01 || 00 11 || 20 01 || 00 11 || 01 || 2A 7F || {{CEX}} <!--// 00 00 00 01 00 83 00 01 10 00 00 5A 17 CD E0 F5 //--> preretail ?DEH-H1001-D? [[COK-00x#COK-001|COOKIE13]] <!-- DEH is normally DEX, CBEH is CEX + installing of DEX FW works -->
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| FF FF || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 01 || 2A 2A || {{DEX}} nonretail [[DECHAxx]] ([[COK-00x|COK-001]])
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| FF FF || 00 11 || 00 02 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{DEX}} nonretail [[DECHJxx]] [[COK-00x#DIA-002|DIA-002]]
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| FF FF || 00 11 || 00 03 || 00 12 || 04 || 2E 8C || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357]] [[COK-00x#COK-002|COK-002]]
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| FF FF || 00 11 || 00 03 || 00 12 || 08 || 2E AB || {{ARC}} [[Namco System 357]] [[VER-00x|VER-001]]
|- bgcolor="#f0f0f0"
| colspan ="7" | <small>0x50 : <code>00 01</code> seem to denote ?PS2 compatibility?, while <code>FF FF</code> denotes nonretail {{ARC}} {{DEX}} consoles</small><br /><small>0x52 : <code>00 11</code> in most cases, only seen <code>00 12</code> on one refurb mobo replacement</small><br /><small>0x54 : always <code>00 02</code> on retail {{CEX}} models, <code>00 03</code> on {{ARC}}, <code>00 01</code> or <code>20 01</code> on preretails</small><br /><small>0x56 : always <code>00 12</code> on final release models (including {{DEX}} and {{ARC}}, <code>00 11</code> on preretail models</small>
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=== Discussion / controversy / speculation ===
=== Discussion / controversy / speculation and dreaming ===
* 0x50 : <code>00 01</code> in all retail motherboards before SEM-001, <code>00 02</code> in all retail motherboards after SEM-001, while <code>FF FF</code> denotes nonretail {{ARC}} {{DEX}} consoles, and <code>20 01</code> is prototype ?. This looks like hardware related, note how the refurbished examples that originally should be 00 01 was not "updated" to 00 02 after refurbishment
...
**PS2 compatibility ? (SEM-001 is the first motherboard where PS2 hardware compatibility was completly removed) http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Motherboard_Revisions
**Multicard reader ? (SEM-001 is the first motherboard where multicard reader was removed) http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/MultiCardReader
**<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Not bluray related, (SEM-001 uses the same BD parts than the previous versions)</span> http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Bluray_Drive#Bluray_Drive_Revisions
* 0x52 : <code>00 11</code> in most cases, only seen <code>00 12</code> on one refurb mobo replacement
* 0x54 : always <code>00 02</code> on retail {{CEX}} models, <code>00 03</code> on {{ARC}}, <code>00 01</code> on preretails, and <code>20 01</code> on prototypes ?
**software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard)
**bluray related ? (arcade doesnt have bluray)
**wifi related ? (arcade doesnt have wifi module... so 0003 = no wifi)
**production line related (2001=prototype, 0001=preproduction, 0002=production, 0003=licensed production)
* 0x56 : always <code>00 12</code> on final release models (including {{DEX}} and {{ARC}}), <code>00 11</code> on preretail models
**software related ? (DEH-H1000A-E, DECHAxx, CECHAxx, and CECHBxx uses different values but shares the same COK-001 motherboard)
 
==cISD on CEB-xxxx PS3 models==
There is no cISD/Idlog area on CEB-xxxx units, instead CBE individuals are written on NOR (8MB NOR in use) as part of the individual_info file; each individual is random and is 0x24 in size.
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