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= CEX2DEX - pro versus con = | = CEX2DEX - pro versus con = | ||
== Pro == | |||
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| Using the features of a debug console || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || To effectively use features, need to use SDK related files, e.g. TargetManager etc | | Using the features of a debug console || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || To effectively use features, need to use SDK related files, e.g. TargetManager etc | ||
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| Using FSELFs || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || To create fselfs, you must have the decrypted | | Using FSELFs || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || To create fselfs, you must have the decrypted binairy first | ||
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| Downgrading || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || Restricted to minver of that SKU/type (either metldr minver locked, or because of drivers - same limitations as Retail/CEX, but without hardware flasher) | | Downgrading || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || Restricted to minver of that SKU/type (either metldr minver locked, or because of drivers - same limitations as Retail/CEX, but without hardware flasher) | ||
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| HDCP off || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || Can use [http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/QA_Flagging#Debug_Menu_settings_not_in_Retail.2FCEX_QA QA debug] (<=3.56) or setmonitor.self (ProDG Target Manager - Monitor Settings Utility). See also [http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/XRegistry.sys XRegistry.sys /setting/display/0/hdcp] | |||
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== | == Con == | ||
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! Function !! 3.55 !! 3.56 !! 3.60+ !! Remarks | ! Function !! 3.55 !! 3.56 !! 3.60+ !! Remarks | ||
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| Retail Functionality : BD-Movies || {{No}} <br />(patchable) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Disabled for that [[Target ID]]) || | |||
| Retail Functionality : BD-Movies || {{No}} <br />(patchable) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Disabled for that [[ | |||
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| Retail Functionality : DVD-Movies || {{No}} <br />(patchable) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Disabled for that [[ | | Retail Functionality : DVD-Movies || {{No}} <br />(patchable) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Disabled for that [[Target ID]]) || | ||
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| Retail Functionality : PS Store || {{No}} <br />(patchable) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Disabled for that [[ | | Retail Functionality : PS Store || {{No}} <br />(patchable) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Disabled for that [[Target ID]]) || | ||
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| PSN/SEN || {{No}} <br />(only when patched/spoofed to Retail AND passphrase is available) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Server Whitelisting and nondebug IDPS fail) || | | PSN/SEN || {{No}} <br />(only when patched/spoofed to Retail AND passphrase is available) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}}<br />(Server Whitelisting and nondebug IDPS fail) || | ||
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| Backups (via Manager) : >=3.60 keyed || {{No}}<br />(same as Retail) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}} || | | Backups (via Manager) : >=3.60 keyed || {{No}}<br />(same as Retail) || {{No}}<br />(see 3.55) || {{No}} || | ||
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| Backups (using ps3gen/bdemu) : <=3.56 keyed || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}}<br />(see 3.55) || ? {{Yes}} | | Backups (using ps3gen/bdemu) : <=3.56 keyed || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}}<br />(see 3.55) || ? {{Yes}} ? || | ||
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| Backups (using ps3gen/bdemu) : >=3.60 keyed || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{ | | Backups (using ps3gen/bdemu) : >=3.60 keyed || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || | ||
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| OtherOS++ : Linux/BSD || {{Yes}} <br />(same as Retail, need patches) || {{No}}<br />(No one ported OtherOS++ MFW tasks to 3.56 yet, if someone does, see 3.55) || {{No}} || | | OtherOS++ : Linux/BSD || {{Yes}} <br />(same as Retail, need patches) || {{No}}<br />(No one ported OtherOS++ MFW tasks to 3.56 yet, if someone does, see 3.55) || {{No}} || | ||
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| Firmware availability || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{No}}<br />( | | Firmware availability || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{No}}<br />(latest public is 4.11) || Getting firmwares will always be a handicap, as they are not openly distributed/announced like Retail, only on SCEDevnet | ||
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| Easily detectable and banned || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || | | Easily detectable and banned || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || | ||
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Note about 3.56 : would need to use custom generated keys for signing, as the random fail is fixed since that version, thus no private keys can be acquired with Scekrit). | |||
= Alternative method of writing back flash (jaicrab / bad idea) = | |||
Put these, including your target NOR file, named rflash.bin on a stick | |||
= Alternative method of writing back flash (jaicrab / bad idea) = | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35197530/Lv2diag.self | ||
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35197530/advance.cfg | |||
Put these, including your target NOR file, named rflash.bin on a stick | Either use PSgrade/JIG and let the lv2diag.self be executed by lv1.self automaticly, or use MultiMAN self loader<br /> | ||
Will take a LONG time (35 minutes) until console stops blinking and shutdown with red led. | |||
Either use PSgrade/JIG and let the lv2diag.self be executed by lv1.self | |||
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= EID correctness = | |||
[8/31/2011 1:41:13 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: the information on the PS3 dev wiki was intentionally faulty | |||
8. If | [8/31/2011 1:41:15 AM] qqqqq: Use the creativity or fail to find it. | ||
[...] | |||
[8/31/2011 1:41:34 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: so people can't use the 'knowledge' | |||
[...] | |||
[8/31/2011 1:41:43 AM] qqqqq: xxxxxx, uuuu has done a very good job at fixing what IS wrong. If you saw something wrong, why didn't you ask uuuu about it to fix it? | |||
[8/31/2011 1:41:55 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: that's not what guys like rrrrrrr have told me | |||
[8/31/2011 1:41:58 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: it's intentionally faulty | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:03 AM] qqqqq: Instead you left it how it was and bitched about it. | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:07 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: to prevent any meaningful extraction of keys | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:11 AM] qqqqq: If it was fault again talk to uuuu | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:24 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: no - uuuu could not have even known about it | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:28 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: it was something only a kkkk could know | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:45 AM] qqqqq: You'd be surprised what uuuu knows. he really is a walking encyclopedia of the ps3. | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:48 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: that wiki is compromised with purposeful misinformation | |||
[8/31/2011 1:42:59 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: and that's what rrrrrrr actually said and thinks | |||
[8/31/2011 1:43:17 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: I'm talking about ps3 dev wiki BTW here | |||
[8/31/2011 1:43:25 AM] qqqqq: if it's providing false info, then why not make a site to provide the right info? *gasps* | |||
[8/31/2011 1:43:34 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: well he did make the suggestion | |||
[8/31/2011 1:43:38 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: but it didn't go over well with these people | |||
[8/31/2011 1:43:45 AM] yyyyyyyy: kkkk wasn't the only one with cex-dex shit | |||
[8/31/2011 1:43:50 AM] yyyyyyyy: hell he's not even the one who wrote it | |||
[8/31/2011 1:44:01 AM] yyyyyyyy: so you can stfu about that | |||
[8/31/2011 1:44:09 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: hell do I know who the fuck wrote CEX-DEX | |||
[8/31/2011 1:44:27 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: all I know is that there are a bunch of connivant shits that want a wiki intentionally 'disinfoed' like that | |||
[8/31/2011 1:44:35 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: people in the know | |||
[8/31/2011 1:44:49 AM] yyyyyyyy: and one conniving shit here trying to save his hide | |||
[8/31/2011 1:44:57 AM] qqqqq: xxxxxx, again as i said. If there was false info (Which uuuu would never do) Why not fix it | |||
[8/31/2011 1:45:21 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: go ask rrrrrrr - I dunno | |||
[8/31/2011 1:45:26 AM] qqqqq: DO you think he purposesly makes changes so that it's wrong? That'd create an even bigger headache if a noob attempted it and bugged us in the chat | |||
[8/31/2011 1:45:32 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: the EID/CEX-DEX info was incomplete | |||
[8/31/2011 1:45:33 AM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: faulty | |||
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= Trivia = | = Trivia = | ||
Neither the [ | Neither the [http://ps3devwiki.com/wiki/SC_EEPROM#EEPROM_Offset_Table_-_Flags_and_Tokens FSELF Control Flag] nor the [http://ps3devwiki.com/wiki/SC_EEPROM#EEPROM_Offset_Table_-_Flags_and_Tokens Debug Support Flag] is changed, nevertheless, no functions of the DEX firmware are restricted, it behaves like a original one. Sony could just add checks in the upcoming DEX firmwares and patch this CEX -> DEX conversion method. | ||