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== Internal harddrive ==
== Internal harddrive ==
All HDD models used in retail PS3's are 2.5" size and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter (and 1 or 2 heads), the platter has a rotational speed of 5.400 rpm and 512 bytes per sector
All HDD models used in retail PS3's are 2.5" size and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter (and 1 or 2 heads), the platter has a rotational speed of 5.400 rpm and 512 bytes per sector
The maximum capacity supported by PS3 is 1TB (TeraBytes) ''note: this ''seems'' untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB, but so far no one has been able to confirm that, only to debunk it as fake''. See/use the [[Talk:Harddrive|talk page]] for discussions/testreports


Is connected internally to [[South Bridge]] wich contains [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] to manage AES-CBC-128/AES-CBC-192/XTS-AES-128 encryption/decryption, and a SATA-150 controller with a maximum transfer speed of 1.5 Gbit/s.  
Is connected internally to [[South Bridge]] wich contains [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] to manage AES-CBC-128/AES-CBC-192/XTS-AES-128 encryption/decryption, and a SATA-150 controller with a maximum transfer speed of 1.5 Gbit/s.  
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! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
|-
! rowspan=6 | Hitachi
! rowspan=5 | Hitachi
! Travelstar 5K160
! Travelstar 5K160
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
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| 0.9 A || 0.80 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
| 0.9 A || 0.80 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.9 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A, [[CECH-21xx]]A 
| 55 ºC || 2.9 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A  
|-
|-
! Travelstar Z5K500
! Travelstar Z5K500
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! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 60 ºC || 2.1 bels || [[CECH-40xx]]C
| 60 ºC || 2.1 bels || [[CECH-40xx]]C
|-
! Travelstar Z5K320-160
| [[HTS543216A7A384]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/?) || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || [[CECH-30xx]]A
|-
|-
! Travelstar Z5K320-250
! Travelstar Z5K320-250
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! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
|-
! rowspan=10 | Toshiba
! rowspan=9 | Toshiba
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX
| [[MK8052GSX]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK8052GSX]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
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| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]B <!-- also the [[CECH-21xx]]B and [[CECH-25xx]]B probably goes here -->
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]B <!-- also the [[CECH-21xx]]B and [[CECH-25xx]]B probably goes here -->
|-
|-
! rowspan=4 | MKxx65GSX
! rowspan=3 | MKxx65GSX
| [[MK1265GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-?
| [[MK1265GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
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| ?.? A || ?.?? W || ?.? W || ?.? W
| ?.? A || ?.?? W || ?.? W || ?.? W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ?? ºC || ?? dBA  || [[CECH-21xx]]A <!-- and [[CECH-25xx]]A ? -->
| ?? ºC || ?? dBA  || [[CECH-21xx]]A  
|-
|-
| [[MK1665GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK1665GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
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! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]A  
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]A  
|-
| [[MK2565GSX]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 4.5 W || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-21xx]]B <!-- and [[CECH-25xx]]B ? -->
|-
|-
| [[MK3265GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK3265GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
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**There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared
**There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared


{{Boxframe0|content='''PS3 models missing in the table above''' (waiting for reports, please help to complete the list)
{{Boxframe0|content='''Temporal notes (this is missing info that needs to be moved to the table)'''
*[[CECHMxx]] 80GB <--- Toshiba [[MK8052GSX]], or fujitsu [[MHZ2080BH]], or hitachi [[HTS542580K9SA00]] ?
*PS3 models missing in the table:
*[[CECH-25xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1265GSX]] ?
**[[CECHMxx]] 80GB <--- Toshiba [[MK8052GSX]], or fujitsu [[MHZ2080BH]], or hitachi [[HTS542580K9SA00]] ?
*[[CECH-25xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2565GSX]] ?
**[[CECH-21xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1255GSX]] ?
*<strike>[[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
**[[CECH-21xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] ?
*<strike>[[CECH-42xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
**[[CECH-25xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1255GSX]] ?
*[[CECH-42xx]]B ??GB <---- ?
**[[CECH-25xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] ?
*[[CECH-42xx]]C ??GB <---- ?
**[[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)
*<strike>[[CECH-43xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
*[[CECH-43xx]]B ??GB <---- ?
*[[CECH-43xx]]C ??GB <---- ?
}}
}}
*The [[CECH-25xx]] was originally shipped in "premiun" bundles with etras (move edition, etc...) with HDDs of capacity: A=160GB or B=320GB, but few months later sony made a price cut campaign, they started shipping it as a basic console (without extras) and the HDD capacities was reduced to A=120GB or B=250GB. This makes a total of 4 different HDD models for [[CECH-25xx]], by now the table above only contains info about 2 of them


==== Harddrive Speed Tests ====
==== Harddrive Speed Tests ====
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*There is no HDD speed test tool for PS3 GameOS, in PS3 OtherOS/linux hdparm can be used for a simple speed test
*There is no HDD speed test tool for PS3 GameOS, in PS3 OtherOS/linux hdparm can be used for a simple speed test
*There is a '''Speed Tests (PS3)''' table in [[Talk:Harddrive#Experimental_Tables|Talk Page]] ready to include this speed tests made in PS3, feel free to add your results or/and copy the whole table here when needed
*There is a '''Speed Tests (PS3)''' table in [[Talk:Harddrive#Experimental_Tables|Talk Page]] ready to include this speed tests made in PS3, feel free to add your results or/and copy the whole table here when needed
=== Internal Harddrive maximum capacity ===
When talking about compatibility is important to keep in mind the PS3 firmware could be partially "broken" by using a large capacity, most specifically the filesystem manteinance functions that are the resposibles to run the filesystem checks (and repair the posible filesystem problems if needed), the filesystem manteinance functions runs in the background while on XMB (periodically?), and additionally the PS3 firmware runs a "filesystem check" under 2 conditions: after a firmware crash (in other words, after a shutting down the device without the proper filesytem "unmount"), and when we use the option 3 from [[Recovery_Menu#3._Restore_File_System | Recovery Menu]] named '''3. Restore File System'''<br>
There are some harddrive capacities (in between 1TB and 2TB) where the PS3 formats it correctly, allows to install games, and could potentially run fine for a few months but "breaks" the filesystem manteinance functions. In this case what happens is every little filesystem error (caused by firmware freezes/crashes or interrupted file transfers from FTP/USB) are going to stay forever in the filesystem gets cummulated with other filesystem errors up to a point where the whole filesystem collapses and you are welcomed with a warning screen where the only option is to format it (in other words, is imposible to restore it). When this happens you lost all his contents, and the last hope to recover some files from it is by using the "EID root key" to decrypt his contents in a PC
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! colspan="4" | Capacity !! rowspan="2" | Formatting !! rowspan="2" | Filesystem check !! rowspan="2" | Notes
|-
! <abbr title="512 bytes each">Sectors</abbr> !! Bytes !! <abbr title="Gibibytes">GiB</abbr> !! <abbr title="Gigabytes">GB</abbr>
|-
| 1,677,721,600  || 858,993,459,200 || 800 || ~858 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 1,887,436,800  || 966,367,641,600 || 900 || ~966 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 1,953,125,000  || 1,000,000,000,000 || ~931 || 1000 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || Your typical 1TB SSD
|-
| 1,992,294,400  || 1,020,054,732,800 || 950 || ~1020 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 2,013,265,920  || 1,030,792,151,040 || 960 || ~1030 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 2,019,557,376  || 1,034,013,376,512 || 963 || ~1034 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-style="background:#fc8; line-height:75%"
| colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | unknown ||  ||  || The exact limit where the '''filesystem check''' functions gets broken is unknown
|-
| 2,020,081,664  || 1,034,281,811,968 || 963.25 || ~1034 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,023,751,680 || 1,036,160,860,160 || 965 || ~1036 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,034,237,440  || 1,041,529,569,280 || 970 || ~1041 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,044,723,200  || 1,046,898,278,400 || 975 || ~1046 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,097,152,000 || 1,073,741,824,000 || 1000 || ~1073 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,147,483,647 || 1,099,511,627,264 || 1024-(1 sector) || ~1099 || {{yes}} || {{no}} || 32bit integer limit
|-
| 2,147,483,648 || 1,099,511,627,776 || 1024 || ~1099 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 3,221,225,472 || 1,649,267,441,664 || 1536 || ~1649 || {{yes}} || {{no}} || emer_init performs HDD check and throw error if capacity is higher than this exact value.
|-style="background:#fc8; line-height:75%"
| colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | unknown ||  ||  || The exact limit where the '''formatting''' functions gets broken is unknown
|-
| 3,907,029,168 || 2,000,398,934,016 || ~1863 || ~2000 || {{no}} || {{no}} ||
|}


=== Harddrive info From software ===
=== Harddrive info From software ===
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