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<div style="float:right">[[File:Missing Hard Drive Error on CECHC04 NAND.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Missing Hard Drive Error on NAND-consoles]]<br />[[File:Missing Hard Drive Error on NOR consoles.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Missing Hard Drive Error on NOR-consoles]]<br />[[File:PS3-Reserved-Area.png|200px|thumb|left|PS3 % Reserved Area<br />(system files {dev_flash}; {dev_flash2}; {dev_flash3}, game data {dev_hdd0}, system cache {dev_hdd1} etc]]</div>
[[Category:Hardware]]
<div style="float:right">[[File:CECHC04_NAND-system.jpg.JPG|200px|thumb|left|Most of the system software is on the harddrive, without one you get this error instead of XMB]]<br />[[File:PS3-Reserved-Area.png|200px|thumb|left|PS3 % Reserved Area<br />(system files {dev_flash}; {dev_flash2}; {dev_flash3}, game data {dev_hdd0}, system cache {dev_hdd1} etc]]</div>
 


== Internal harddrive ==
== Internal harddrive ==
All HDD models used in retail PS3's are 2.5" size and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter (and 1 or 2 heads), the platter has a rotational speed of 5.400 rpm and 512 bytes per sector
All HDD models used in PS3's are 2.5" size and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter (and 1 or 2 heads), the platter has a rotational speed of 5.400 rpm and 512 bytes per sector


Is connected internally to [[South Bridge]] wich contains [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] to manage AES-CBC-128/AES-CBC-192/XTS-AES-128 encryption/decryption, and a SATA-150 controller with a maximum transfer speed of 1.5 Gbit/s.  
The maximum capacity supported by PS3 is 1TB (TeraBytes) ''note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB''. See/use the [[Talk:Harddrive|talk page]] for discussions/testreports
 
Is connected internally to [[South Bridge]] wich contains [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] to manage XTS-AES-128 encryption/decryption, and a SATA-150 controller with a maximum transfer speed of 1.5 Gb/s.  


*GameOS partition
*GameOS partition
**Is an UFS2 256-bit file system with a sectorsize of 512 bytes (4096 bits).
**Is an UFS2 256-bit file system with a sectorsize of 512 bytes (4096 bits).
**Because it is per-console encrypted, it is not possible to read out the data on it with another console (it will just ask to reformat it, to set it to its own per-console encryption, hence emptying the drive)
**Because is perconsole encrypted, it is not possible to read out the data on it with another console (it will just ask to reformat it, to set it to its own perconsole encryption, hence emptying the drive)
 
To read/write data out in Linux, BSD, Windows, or Mac OS X, you'll need to use the specific per-console "ATA tweak" and "ATA data" keys. See [[Harddrive#Harddrive_encryption|Harddrive encryption]] and [[HDD_Encryption]]


*In some newer PS3 models (like [[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB) the internal harddrive has been replaced by a [[Flash_(Hardware)|Flash]]
To read/write data out in Linux, BSD, Windows, Mac OS X its needed to use the specific perconsole "ATA tweak" and "ATA data" keys. See [[Harddrive#Harddrive_encryption|Harddrive encryption]] and [[HDD_Encryption]]


=== Harddrive Model info ===
=== Harddrive Model info ===
The data in this table has been copied from manufacturer documents (datasheets or productsheets) available at support sites found at the links at bottom of the page
The data in this table has been copyed from manufacturer documents (datasheets or productsheets), availables at [[Harddrive#Low_level_diagnostic_tools._Harddrive_manufacturers_support_webs|Harddrive manufacturers support webs]]


*A collection of productsheets/datasheets of the HDD models used in PS3, renamed by manufacturer/series: [[http://www.multiupload.nl/V3ISMS6Q80 Download]] (fujitsu series are missing)
*A collection of productsheets/datasheets of the HDD models used in PS3, renamed by manufacturer/series: [[http://www.multiupload.nl/V3ISMS6Q80 Download]] (fujitsu series are missing)


<div style="width:1280px;">
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+
|+
! rowspan=2 | Brand !! rowspan=2 | Series !! rowspan=2 | Model !! rowspan=2 | Capacity !! rowspan=2 | Rotation Speed<BR />(Platters/Heads) !! rowspan=2 | Buffer !! rowspan=2 | Interface !! rowspan=2 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} !! colspan=4 | Seek Speeds !! rowspan=2 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} !! colspan=4 | Power Requirements !! rowspan=2 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} !! rowspan=2 | Operating<BR />Temp. !! rowspan=2 | Noise<BR />Max !! rowspan=2 | Used in PS3 Models
! rowspan=2 | Brand !! rowspan=2 | Series !! rowspan=2 | Model !! rowspan=2 | Capacity !! rowspan=2 | Rotation Speed<BR />(Platters/Heads) !! rowspan=2 | Buffer !! rowspan=2 | Interface !! rowspan=2 | !! colspan=4 | Seek Speeds !! rowspan=2 | !! colspan=4 | Power Requirements !! rowspan=2 | !! rowspan=2 | Operating<BR />Temp. !! rowspan=2 | Noise<BR />Max !! rowspan=2 | Used in PS3 Models
|-
|-
! tracks !! latency !! read !! write !! startup !! idle !! read !! write
! tracks !! latency !! read !! write !! startup !! idle !! read !! write
|-
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! colspan=21 |  
|-
|-
! rowspan=3 | Fujitsu
! rowspan=3 | Fujitsu
! MHW
! MHW
| [[MHW2040BH]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
| [[MHW2040BH]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHJxx]]
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHJxx]]
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MHZ
! rowspan=2 | MHZ
| [[MHZ2080BH]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MHZ2080BH]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.4 bels || [[CECHKxx]], [[CECHLxx]]
| 55 ºC || 2.4 bels || [[CECHKxx]], [[CECHLxx]]
|-
|-
| [[MHZ2160BH]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MHZ2160BH]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.5 ms || ?.?? ms || ?? ms || ?? ms
| 1.5 ms || ?.?? ms || ?? ms || ?? ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 2.1 W || 2.1 W
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 2.1 W || 2.1 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHPxx]], [[CECHQxx]]
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHPxx]], [[CECHQxx]]
|-
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! colspan=21 |  
|-
|-
! rowspan=6 | Hitachi
! rowspan=4 | Hitachi
! Travelstar 5K160
! Travelstar 5K160
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W
| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHHxx]]
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHHxx]]
|-
|-
! Travelstar 5K250
! Travelstar 5K250
| [[HTS542580K9SA00]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
| [[HTS542580K9SA00]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W
| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHLxx]]
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHLxx]]
|-
|-
! Travelstar 5K500
! Travelstar 5K500
| [[HTS545012B9SA00]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
| [[HTS545012B9SA00]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.80 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
| 0.9 A || 0.80 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.9 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A, [[CECH-21xx]]A 
| 55 ºC || 2.9 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A  
|-
|-
! Travelstar Z5K500
! Travelstar Z5K500
| [[HTS545050A7E380]] || 500 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[HTS545050A7E380]] || 500 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 13 ms || 13 ms
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 13 ms || 13 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.6 W || 1.6 W
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.6 W || 1.6 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 60 ºC || 2.1 bels || [[CECH-40xx]]C
| 60 ºC || 2.1 bels || [[CECH-40xx]]C
|-
|-
! Travelstar Z5K320-160
! colspan=21 |  
| [[HTS543216A7A384]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/?) || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || [[CECH-30xx]]A
|-
! Travelstar Z5K320-250
| [[HTS543225A7A384]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/?) || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || [[CECH-40xx]]B
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
|-
! rowspan=5 | Seagate
! rowspan=5 | Seagate
! Momentus 5400.2
! Momentus 5400.2
| [[ST96812AS]]  || 60 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
| [[ST96812AS]]  || 60 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.1 A || 0.99 W || 1.9 W || 2.3 W
| 1.1 A || 0.99 W || 1.9 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 3.1 bels || [[CECHAxx]], [[CECHCxx]]
| 55 ºC || 3.1 bels || [[CECHAxx]], [[CECHCxx]]
|-
|-
! Momentus 5400.3
! Momentus 5400.3
| [[ST980811AS]]  || 80 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
| [[ST980811AS]]  || 80 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 11 ms || 13 ms
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 11 ms || 13 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 0.75 W || 1.9 W || 1.8 W
| 1.0 A || 0.75 W || 1.9 W || 1.8 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 60 ºC || 3.2 bels || [[CECHExx]]
| 60 ºC || 3.2 bels || [[CECHExx]]
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | LD25 SATA
! rowspan=2 | LD25 SATA
| [[ST920217AS]]  || 20 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 2 MB || SATA-150
| [[ST920217AS]]  || 20 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 2 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms
| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || ?.?? W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
| 1.0 A || ?.?? W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHBxx]]
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHBxx]]
|-
|-
| [[ST9402115AS]] || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150
| [[ST9402115AS]] || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms
| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 2.00 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
| 1.0 A || 2.00 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHGxx]], [[CECHHxx]], and probably in [[CECHJxx]]
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHGxx]], [[CECHHxx]]
|-
|-
! LD25 5400.2
! LD25 5400.2
| [[ST940210AS]]  || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150
| [[ST940210AS]]  || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.5 ms || 5.60 ms || 15 ms || 15 ms
| 1.5 ms || 5.60 ms || 15 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 1.0 A || 2.50 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
| 1.0 A || 2.50 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 60 ºC || 2.6 bels || [[CECHGxx]], [[CECHJxx]], and probably in [[CECHHxx]]
| 60 ºC || 2.6 bels || [[CECHJxx]]
|-
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! colspan=21 |  
|-
|-
! rowspan=10 | Toshiba
! rowspan=8 | Toshiba
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX
| [[MK8052GSX]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK8052GSX]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 25 dBA  || [[CECHLxx]]
| 55 ºC || 25 dBA  || [[CECHLxx]]
|-
|-
| [[MK1652GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK1652GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 25 dBA  || [[CECHPxx]], and probably in [[CECHQxx]]
| 55 ºC || 25 dBA  || [[CECHPxx]]
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx55GSX
! rowspan=2 | MKxx55GSX
| [[MK1255GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK1255GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A <!-- also the [[CECH-21xx]]A and [[CECH-25xx]]A probably goes here -->
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A
|-
|-
| [[MK2555GSX]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK2555GSX]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]B <!-- also the [[CECH-21xx]]B and [[CECH-25xx]]B probably goes here -->
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]B
|-
! rowspan=4 | MKxx65GSX
| [[MK1265GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ?.? ms || ?.?? ms || ? ms || ? ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ?.? A || ?.?? W || ?.? W || ?.? W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ?? ºC || ?? dBA  || [[CECH-21xx]]A <!-- and [[CECH-25xx]]A ? -->
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx65GSX
| [[MK1665GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK1665GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]A  
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]A  
|-
| [[MK2565GSX]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 4.5 W || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-21xx]]B <!-- and [[CECH-25xx]]B ? -->
|-
|-
| [[MK3265GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK3265GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]B
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]B
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx76GSX
! rowspan=2 | MKxx76GSX
| [[MK1676GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK1676GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-30xx]]A
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-30xx]]A
|-
|-
| [[MK3276GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[MK3276GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
!  
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-30xx]]B
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-30xx]]B
|-
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
! colspan=21 |  
|-
|-
|}
|}
'''Notes:''' Toshiba drives have a sticker that says "do not cover the breathing hole", but despite that it is stickered shut (simular to the smaller right one [http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61oppENMvDL._SL1500_.jpg here]) which makes it [http://forums.toshiba.com/t5/Satellite-Laptops-all-other/Toshiba-Hard-Drive-Failure-and-their-warning-label-s/td-p/388143 more prone to failure].
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*Meassure units conversions:
*Meassure units conversions:
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**There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared
**There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared


{{Boxframe0|content='''PS3 models missing in the table above''' (waiting for reports, please help to complete the list)
{{Boxframe0|content='''Temporal notes (this is missing info that needs to be moved to the table)'''
*[[CECHMxx]] 80GB <--- Toshiba [[MK8052GSX]], or fujitsu [[MHZ2080BH]], or hitachi [[HTS542580K9SA00]] ?
*PS3 models missing in the table:
*[[CECH-25xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1265GSX]] ?
**[[CECHMxx]] 80GB <--- Toshiba [[MK8052GSX]], or fujitsu [[MHZ2080BH]], or hitachi [[HTS542580K9SA00]] ?
*[[CECH-25xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2565GSX]] ?
**[[CECH-21xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1255GSX]] ?
*<strike>[[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
**[[CECH-21xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] ?
*<strike>[[CECH-42xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
**[[CECH-25xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1255GSX]] ?
*[[CECH-42xx]]B ??GB <---- ?
**[[CECH-25xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] ?
*[[CECH-42xx]]C ??GB <---- ?
**[[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB <--- Flash storage NAND ?
*<strike>[[CECH-43xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
**[[CECH-40xx]]B 250GB <--- hitachi Travelstar (Z5K500 series) - [[HTS545025A7E380]] (1 head), or toshiba [[MK2555GSX]] (old) ?
*[[CECH-43xx]]B ??GB <---- ?
*[[CECH-43xx]]C ??GB <---- ?
}}
}}
*The [[CECH-25xx]] was originally shipped in "premiun" bundles with etras (move edition, etc...) with HDDs of capacity: A=160GB or B=320GB, but few months later sony made a price cut campaign, they started shipping it as a basic console (without extras) and the HDD capacities was reduced to A=120GB or B=250GB. This makes a total of 4 different HDD models for [[CECH-25xx]], by now the table above only contains info about 2 of them


==== Harddrive Speed Tests ====
==== Harddrive Speed Tests ====
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*There is no HDD speed test tool for PS3 GameOS, in PS3 OtherOS/linux hdparm can be used for a simple speed test
*There is no HDD speed test tool for PS3 GameOS, in PS3 OtherOS/linux hdparm can be used for a simple speed test
*There is a '''Speed Tests (PS3)''' table in [[Talk:Harddrive#Experimental_Tables|Talk Page]] ready to include this speed tests made in PS3, feel free to add your results or/and copy the whole table here when needed
*There is a '''Speed Tests (PS3)''' table in [[Talk:Harddrive#Experimental_Tables|Talk Page]] ready to include this speed tests made in PS3, feel free to add your results or/and copy the whole table here when needed
=== Internal Harddrive maximum capacity ===
When talking about compatibility is important to keep in mind the PS3 firmware could be partially "broken" by using a large capacity, most specifically the filesystem manteinance functions that are the resposibles to run the filesystem checks (and repair the posible filesystem problems if needed), the filesystem manteinance functions runs in the background while on XMB (periodically?), and additionally the PS3 firmware runs a "filesystem check" under 2 conditions: after a firmware crash (in other words, after a shutting down the device without the proper filesytem "unmount"), and when we use the option 3 from [[Recovery_Menu#3._Restore_File_System | Recovery Menu]] named '''3. Restore File System'''<br>
There are some harddrive capacities (in between 1TB and 2TB) where the PS3 formats it correctly, allows to install games, and could potentially run fine for a few months but "breaks" the filesystem manteinance functions. In this case what happens is every little filesystem error (caused by firmware freezes/crashes or interrupted file transfers from FTP/USB) are going to stay forever in the filesystem gets cummulated with other filesystem errors up to a point where the whole filesystem collapses and you are welcomed with a warning screen where the only option is to format it (in other words, is imposible to restore it). When this happens you lost all his contents, and the last hope to recover some files from it is by using the "EID root key" to decrypt his contents in a PC
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|-
! colspan="4" | Capacity !! rowspan="2" | Formatting !! rowspan="2" | Filesystem check !! rowspan="2" | Notes
|-
! <abbr title="512 bytes each">Sectors</abbr> !! Bytes !! <abbr title="Gibibytes">GiB</abbr> !! <abbr title="Gigabytes">GB</abbr>
|-
| 1,677,721,600  || 858,993,459,200 || 800 || ~858 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 1,887,436,800  || 966,367,641,600 || 900 || ~966 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 1,953,125,000  || 1,000,000,000,000 || ~931 || 1000 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || Your typical 1TB SSD
|-
| 1,992,294,400  || 1,020,054,732,800 || 950 || ~1020 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 2,013,265,920  || 1,030,792,151,040 || 960 || ~1030 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 2,019,557,376  || 1,034,013,376,512 || 963 || ~1034 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-style="background:#fc8; line-height:75%"
| colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | unknown ||  ||  || The exact limit where the '''filesystem check''' functions gets broken is unknown
|-
| 2,020,081,664  || 1,034,281,811,968 || 963.25 || ~1034 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,023,751,680 || 1,036,160,860,160 || 965 || ~1036 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,034,237,440  || 1,041,529,569,280 || 970 || ~1041 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,044,723,200  || 1,046,898,278,400 || 975 || ~1046 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,097,152,000 || 1,073,741,824,000 || 1000 || ~1073 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,147,483,647 || 1,099,511,627,264 || 1024-(1 sector) || ~1099 || {{yes}} || {{no}} || 32bit integer limit
|-
| 2,147,483,648 || 1,099,511,627,776 || 1024 || ~1099 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 3,221,225,472 || 1,649,267,441,664 || 1536 || ~1649 || {{yes}} || {{no}} || emer_init performs HDD check and throw error if capacity is higher than this exact value.
|-style="background:#fc8; line-height:75%"
| colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | unknown ||  ||  || The exact limit where the '''formatting''' functions gets broken is unknown
|-
| 3,907,029,168 || 2,000,398,934,016 || ~1863 || ~2000 || {{no}} || {{no}} ||
|}


=== Harddrive info From software ===
=== Harddrive info From software ===


==== Harddrive info in Flash ====
==== Harddrive info in NOR ====
 
*In NOR flash
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*In GameOS
*In GameOS
See [[DeviceID]] '''ext_nor_flash'''
See [[DeviceID]] '''ext_nor_flash'''  


==== Harddrive info in xregistry.sys ====
==== Harddrive info in xregistry.sys ====
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PC tools: [http://github.com/kakaroto/ps3utils PS3Utils] in linux or [http://stoker25.com/files/xRegistryEditor075.rar xRegistry.sys Editor 0.75] in windows
PC tools: [http://github.com/kakaroto/ps3utils PS3Utils] in linux or [http://stoker25.com/files/xRegistryEditor075.rar xRegistry.sys Editor 0.75] in windows


==== Harddrive info from SCSI/atapi commands in GameOS ====
==== Harddrive info from ATA commands ====
Normally on PC, you would use:
Not documented yet
sg_logs SCSI LOG SENSE -t command
See also:
* http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/Interface%20manuals/100293068c.pdf
* http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_logs
 
For PS3, see also [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#SCSI_Commands|HV SCSI Commands]] and [[LV2_Functions_and_Syscalls#sys_storage_Syscalls|LV2 sys_storage_Syscalls]]
 
Not much specific to hdd temperature on ps3 in gameos documented yet


=== Harddrive encryption ===
=== Harddrive encryption ===
PS3 uses '''XTS-AES-128''' to encrypt the internal HDD drive on SLIM consoles and '''AES-CBC-128/AES-CBC-192''' on PHAT consoles.
PS3 uses '''XTS-AES-128''' to encrypt the internal HDD drive.


Good paper about XTS-AES: http://ntnu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:347753/FULLTEXT01
Good paper about XTS-AES: http://ntnu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:347753/FULLTEXT01
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XTS-AES-128 means that there are 2 keys of size 128bit actually, the one for tweak encryption and the other for data encryption.
XTS-AES-128 means that there are 2 keys of size 128bit actually, the one for tweak encryption and the other for data encryption.
Both keys are different on each PS3 console and can be easily dumped e.g. with modified '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''.
Both keys are different on each PS3 console and can be easily dumped e.g. with modified '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''.
These 2 keys are sent to [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] which performs HDD encryption/decryption. '''HDD keys are NOT stored in [[Flash#EID_4_-_Section_4|EID4]].'''.
These 2 keys are sent to [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] which performs HDD encryption/decryption. '''HDD keys are NOT stored in [[Flash#EID_4_-_Section_4|EID4]].'''
On PHAT consoles the only data key is used with zeroed IV.


Currently i'm able to decrypt my PS3 HDD on PC and i can also talk to the [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] without isolated SPU modules.
Currently i'm able to decrypt my PS3 HDD on PC and i can also talk to the [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] without isolated SPU modules.
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version of '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''. ATA keys are passed as parameters to this module and i just copied them with MFC DMA to PPU memory
version of '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''. ATA keys are passed as parameters to this module and i just copied them with MFC DMA to PPU memory
and stopped the execution of the SPU.
and stopped the execution of the SPU.
=== Firmware harddrive tools ===
==== Format Utility ====
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/formatutility.html
==== Backup Utility ====
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/backuputility.html
'''About not-backuped files'''
Savegames in PS3 format and trophies are linked to the console/user by using their PARAM.SFO... if you look in this table [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PARAM.SFO#SFO_Requirements_for_HDD_contents|SFO Requirements for HDD contents] in their respective columns, the critical param_keys that needs to be taken in consideation when importing/exporting to another account or console are: ACCOUNTID, ACCOUNT_ID, PARAMS, and SAVEDATA_LIST_PARAM
There are several scenarios for importing exporting in the same or other console, between accounts, between registered and not registered PSN accounts, etc... One scenario that deserves a mention because the simplicity is when you replace the HDD, your account is not registered in PSN, and your PS3 uses a NOR flash
PS3 accounts not registered in PSN use an account id filled with zeroes (that's normal, and is taken as a real number by the system), and trophies are only linked to ACCOUNTID !!!. If your source and target accounts are not registered in PSN you can simply paste the old trophy folders in the new account (dev_hdd0/home/<any_user_id_here>) in your new HDD and "rebuild database", that's all. You can use the same "trick" to transfer trophies between accounts in the same or other console if none of them are registered in PSN (yes, all the PS3 CFW users of the world not registered in PSN can share their trophies just by copy-pasting files)
For gamesaves the ACCOUNT_ID is also used, but like explained above (because in this example the source and target accounts are not registered in PSN) this is not a problem, the problem here are the contents of PARAMS and SAVEDATA_LIST_PARAM
Actually, are not a problem in all cases because chances are high that all values matches, but usually what changes is the "User ID" assigned to the account the first time it was created (you know... this 00000001 folder that was assiged to the first user you created inside dev_hdd0/home/<user_id_here>/), This number is a counter that always increases (even when you erase users it will not decrease) is stored inside xregistry.sys, and inside the gamesaves in the PARAMS
Probably you need to change this number to match the new account, so after replacing the HDD and creating a new account, it's a good time to keep this account number 00000001 and modify all the saves to match the 00000001 inside their PARAM. The other known values inside PARAM doesn't need to be changed (because we are importing/exporting in the same console, so "PS3 console ID" is the same)... you only need to change this when moving the save to another console
All this tasks are simple edits in the PARAM.SFO file... you could even make it with a hex editor if you are used to .SFO format, to simplify it you can use some .SFO editor (one that allows to change this values) or one gamesave editor
Trophies and PS3 saves are protected by .PFD files so in case you modified one of the .SFO, then you need to "update" the list of protected files inside the .PFD (because PARAM.SFO is always in the list). When you update the .PFD the new PARAM.SFO is added to the list and this makes the whole gamesave folder/files "valid" and ready to be copied in the PS3. You will also need to "rebuild database" at the end of the process
The PFD "update" is one of the commands inside "flatz pfd tools", it returns some info about the protected files inside the table with an "OK" at the end of each line when everything is fine.
*Notes
**Part of the contents of PARAMS and SAVEDATA_LIST_PARAM are still unknown, (it's awesome how some people that uses/codes savegame cheat apps are still ignoring this... and I'm not talking about flatz, his purpose was to break the .pfd security to unlocking/transfering protected user files between legit offline accounts and no cheating purposes) --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 02:40, 28 January 2014 (EST)
**About NAND or NOR consoles... xregistry.sys contains "Account ID" and "User ID"
***Is PS3's with NOR xregistry.sys is stored in "Virtual flash" (a partition in HDD)
***In the case of NOR when replacing/formatting the HDD you are deleting the file, so is generated at next boot (and filled with the user info the first time you create a new user, that will be assigned the "account id" 00000001). This is not bad, actually is a good way to "cleanup" the xregistry.sys because the PS3 will generate a "fresh one" from scratch (usually xregistry.sys contains lot of areas marked as "not used" from old users that was erased, other old data, the annoying user counter that always increases, and even errors)
***Is PS3's with NAND xregistry.sys is stored in "NAND flash"
***In the case of NAND when replacing/formatting the HDD you keep the file with the old users info, the user counter increasing, etc... i dont know a good/efective/simple way to regenerate it --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 02:15, 28 January 2014 (EST)
==== Data Transfer Utility ====
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/transferutility.html


=== Harddrive replacements, modifications, expansion parts ===
=== Harddrive replacements, modifications, expansion parts ===


==== Replacing the internal harddrive ====
==== Replacing the internal harddrive ====
For compatibility, if you have a SATA-300 (sometimes called SATA-II or SATA2) or SATA-600 (sometimes called SATA-III or SATA3) harddrive, you should sometimes set the harddrive via jumper to enforce the slower SATA-150 speed, instead of default 3 Gb/s of SATA-300 / 6Gb/s of SATA-600.
For compatibility, if you have a SATA-300 (sometimes called SATA-II or SATA2) harddrive, you should sometimes set the harddrive via jumper to enforce the slower SATA-150 speed, instead of default 3 Gb/s of SATA-300.
   
   
{{Boxframe1|content='''Step-by-step guide'''
{{Boxframe1|content='''Step-by-step guide'''
# Download the FULL version of FW you currently have on the old harddrive and put it on a USB Mass Storage Device formatted with FAT32 in \PS3\UPDATE\PS3UPDAT.PUP
# Download the FULL version of FW you currently have (tip: see here) on the old harddrive and put it on a USB Mass Storage Device formatted with FAT32 in \PS3\UPDATE\PS3UPDAT.PUP
# If you wish to transfer your installed games, savedata, DLC/PSN, /Photo, /Music, /Video, bookmarks etc. you can use Backup / Restore BEFORE you exchange the harddrive. You’ll need a FAT32 formatted External Drive for that (with enough free space). The backups will be stored in \PS3\EXPORT\BACKUP\ in a subfolder with the backupdate/time as name and in there several DAT files (archive.dat, archive_00.dat, archive2.dat and archive2_[4GBSPLITNR].dat etc.) This same drive can be used to store the FW mentioned earlier)
# If you wish to transfer your savegames / installed games, trophies, DLC/PSN etc. you can use Backup / Restore BEFORE you exchange the harddrive. You’ll need a FAT32 formatted External Drive for that (with enough free space). The backups will be stored in \PS3\EXPORT\BACKUP\ in a subfolder with the backupdate/time as name and in there several DAT files (archive.dat, archive_00.dat, archive2.dat and archive2_[4GBSPLITNR].dat etc.) This same drive can be used to store the FW mentioned earlier)
# Disconnect the LAN/UTP cable and remove all discs from the BD-drive, to disable the possibility that another firmware gets downloaded/installed
# Disconnect the LAN/UTP cable to disable the possibility that another FW (3.50) gets downloaded
# Power Off the PS3 (disconnect the power cable) and open the HD tray (left/bottom) to exchange the original 2.5″ drive for the newer/larger/faster one (remark: use max. 9.5mm height drives).<ul><li>Remark: The screws which are used to mount the internal hardisk in the PS3 HD-tray are made of soft aluminium. Use a good fitting screwdriver, or you’re bound to abuse the “X” bithole and must resort to flat pliers to get the screws out.</li></ul>
# Power Off the PS3 (disconnect the power cable) and open the HD tray (left/bottom) to exchange the original 2.5″ drive for the newer/larger/faster one (remark: use max. 9.5mm height drives). ** Remark: The screws which are used to mount the internal hardisk in the PS3 HD-tray are made of soft aluminium. Use a good fitting screwdriver, or you’re bound to abuse the “X” bithole and must resort to flat pliers to get the screws out.
# After everything is in place, insert the USB Mass Storage Device you prepared earlier and power ON the PS3. The new HD is detected and the PS3 wants to format it. Select YES and wait until format is finished. After that you can select Update to select the FW on the USB Mass Storage Device (in case it didn’t already do that automaticly after format).
# After everything is in place, insert the USB Mass Storage Device you prepared earlier and power ON the PS3. The new HD is detected and the PS3 wants to format it. Select YES and wait until format is finished. After that you can select Update to select the FW on the USB Mass Storage Device (in case it didn’t already do that automaticly after format).
# After succesfull format and installation of the System Software / Firmware, reboot and check in XMB System Information to see which FW is currently used and how much is usable for the XMB.
# After succesfull format and installation of the System Software / Firmware, reboot and check in XMB System Information to see which FW is currently used and how much is usable for the XMB.




*Note: Copy-protected saved data cannot be restored. Also, saved data that has been restored may not be usable in some games. Trophies are not backed up by the XMB Backup Option!
*The above semi-guide is also readable in the PS3 Owners Manual [http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=362 Knowledge Centre: Can I upgrade the hard disk drive (HDD) inside my PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system?]
*The above semi-guide is also readable in the PS3 Owners Manual [http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=362 Knowledge Centre: Can I upgrade the hard disk drive (HDD) inside my PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system?] and [http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/backuputility.html PS3 User's Guide :: Settings > System Settings > Backup Utility]
}}
}}


 
Exchanging the internal drive to a 7200RPM model doesn’t do much for your loading times (shaves off a second or 2) and upgrading to SSD/Flash Drives is almost insane considering the prices you pay per GB. Any modern larger drive is always faster than the older default smaller drive.
===== Economic contemplation =====
Some people are argueing that SSD/Flash Drives produce "much less heat" but consider this: a very good/efficient one uses 5V 0.35A  1.75 Watt while a harddrive uses 5V 0.85A  4.25 Watt. A difference of 2.5W less on a total of 225Watt is not something you would see back on your electric bill or thermometer.
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|-
! Type !! €/GB !! <abbr title="price compared to 2.5" 1TB 5400 rpm HDD">%</abbr>
|-
| 3.5" 7200 rpm HDD || 0,048 || style="background-color:#b0ffb0;"| {{Round|90.566037736|1}}
|-
| 3.5" 5400 rpm HDD || 0,049 || style="background-color:#a0ffa0;"| {{Round|92.452830189|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 5400 rpm HDD || 0,053 || style="background-color:#80ff80;"| {{Round|100.000000000|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 7200 rpm HDD || 0,061 || style="background-color:#ffff80;"| {{Round|115.094339623|1}}
|-
| 3.5" 7200 rpm SSHD || 0,071 || style="background-color:#ffffa0;"| {{Round|133.962264151|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 5400 rpm SHDD || 0,076 || style="background-color:#ffffb0;"| {{Round|143.396226415|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 1TB SSD || 0,358 || style="background-color:#ff9090;"| {{Round|675.471698113|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 7200 rpm SSHD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
| 3.5" 5400 rpm SHDD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
| 3.5" 1TB SSD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
|}
Exchanging the internal drive to a 7200RPM model doesn’t do much for your loading times (shaves off a second or 2), hybrid SSHD are a bit more future proof while still lowcost, but upgrading to SSD/Flash Drives is almost insane considering the prices you pay per GB. Any modern larger drive is always faster than the older default smaller drive.
Some people are arguing that SSD/Flash Drives produce "much less heat" but consider this: a very good/efficient one uses 5V 0.35A  1.75 Watt while a harddrive uses 5V 0.85A  4.25 Watt. A difference of 2.5W less on a total of 225Watt is not something you would see prominently back on your electric bill or thermometer.
 
===== Note =====
There is even report of SDD's sometimes having a negative impact on performance, compared to the original PS3 harddrive. Example: Corsair CSSD F240GBGT BK - which seem to have 4KB sectors (cause?)


Because of the low price/ high storage capacity I personally always go for SATAII/300 7200rpm drives (if internal, maximum height is 9.5mm, 12 or 12.5mm doesn’t fit) and if modified to external via eSATA you can even use cheaper/faster 3.5″ drives (but you’ll need them to have their own powersupply because the internal PS3 powersupply can’t power that safely).
Because of the low price/ high storage capacity I personally always go for SATAII/300 7200rpm drives (if internal, maximum height is 9.5mm, 12 or 12.5mm doesn’t fit) and if modified to external via eSATA you can even use cheaper/faster 3.5″ drives (but you’ll need them to have their own powersupply because the internal PS3 powersupply can’t power that safely).
===== Original vs Replacement Drives speed comparison =====


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for a more updated table with 1TB 2.5" SSHD's, see [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps4/Harddrive#Hybrid_SSHD_2.5.22_9.5mm_or_thinner Psdevwiki.com/PS4 Harddrive] page


==== Internal SATA to External drive/cradle ====
==== Internal SATA to External drive/cradle ====
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==== [[CECH-40xx]] : External harddrive expansion for internal storage ====
==== [[CECH-40xx]] : External harddrive expansion for internal storage ====
<div style="float:right">[[File:Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket - box.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket - box<br />CECH-ZCD1]]<br />[[File:Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket<br />CECH-ZCD1]]</div>
* Vertical Stand with Storage attachement (CECH-4000A only)<br />
* Vertical Stand with Storage attachement (CECH-4000A only)<br />
* Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket (CECH-ZHD1)<br />
* Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket (CECH-ZHD1)<br />
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==== CECH-4000B only : Internal harddrive ====
==== CECH-4000B only : Internal harddrive ====
[[:File:Topdrive-cech4000B.png]]
5400rpm Hitachi hard drive
5400rpm Hitachi hard drive
* Z5K500 [[HTS545050A7E380]] (500GB)
* Z5K500 [[HTS545050A7E380]] (500GB)
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== External storage ==
== External storage ==
The PS3 also supports external harddrives connected to the USB port (identified as USB Mass Storage device) using only FAT12/16/32 file systems format. File systems like UFS/UFS2, EXT3/EXT4, which are natively used on internal harddrive cannot be used on external on a non-modified system. You can format it to any size up to 8TB '''<nowiki>*</nowiki>''', which is the theoretical drive size limit of FAT32. There have been verified success of 2TB external harddrives working with the PS3. The whole drive needs to be formatted into a single 2TB FAT32 partition using special software tools like fat32format.exe that can handle large drives. Note that FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB.
The PS3 also supports external harddrives connected to the USB port (identifyed as USB Mass Storage device) using only FAT12/16/32 file systems format. File systems like UFS/UFS2, EXT3/EXT4, which are natively used on internal harddrive cannot be used on external on a non-modified system. You can format it to any size up to 8TB **, which is the theoretical drive size limit of FAT32. There have been verified success of 2TB external harddrives working with the PS3. The whole drive needs to be formatted into a single 2TB FAT32 partition using special software tools like fat32format.exe that can handle large drives. Note that FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB.


::<nowiki>*</nowiki>'''FAT32 restrictions:'''
<pre>** note: this seems untrue, because when &gt;2TB drives have hit the market, no screenshots of >2TB external storage are known</pre>
::* ''max amount of files: 268,173,300''
::* ''max filesize: 4,294,967,295 Bytes''
::* ''max cluster size: 32K practical, 64K with high incompatibility (PS3 and Xbox360 will accept it, but most applications will not).''
::* ''max sector size: 512 Bytes (4096 sectorsize is not compatible)''
::* ''max amount of clusters per volume: 268,435,445 (2^28)''
::* ''max volume size because of cluster limit: 8,796,093,022,208 Bytes (~8TB)''
::* ''max volume size because of compatibility: 2TB-1 @ 512B sectors, 32KB allocation unit or 4TB-1 @ 512B sectors, 64KB allocation unit (not recommended) / absolute limit would be 16 TB for 4096 byte sectors, which is incompatible with PS3''


::'''''performance consideration:''' with a 8TB volumesize, the file allocation table itself will be 1GB, not really practical (it is 256MB at a 2TB volumesize, which is still a lot larger than ps3 memory thus negatively impacting on performance).''
== Low level diagnostic tools. Harddrive manufacturers support webs ==
 
== Tools, HDD manufacturers support webs, Documentation, etc ==
<div style="float:right">[[File:Diagram of Hard Disk Drive Manufacturer Consolidation.svg|200px|thumb|left|Diagram of Hard Disk Drive Manufacturer Consolidation<br />[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_hard_disk_manufacturers List of defunct hard disk manufacturers]]]</div>
<div style="float:right">[[File:Diagram of Hard Disk Drive Manufacturer Consolidation.svg|200px|thumb|left|Diagram of Hard Disk Drive Manufacturer Consolidation<br />[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_hard_disk_manufacturers List of defunct hard disk manufacturers]]]</div>


Sometimes you just need to be sure that harddrive is still working in crisp condition. All harddrive manufacturers have special low level diagnostics tool for that purpose.
Sometimes you just need to be sure that harddrive is still working in crisp condition. All harddrive manufacturers have special low level diagnostics tool for that purpose.


===Low level diagnostic tools===
* Low level diagnostic tools
** [http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/ Seagate SeaTools] (also Samsung)
** [http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/ Seagate SeaTools] (also Samsung)
** [http://majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=1386&file=15&evp=3babe0ea87490b39869a7483f531f24f Maxtor PowerMax] (currently Seagate)
** [http://majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=1386&file=15&evp=3babe0ea87490b39869a7483f531f24f Maxtor PowerMax] (currently Seagate)
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*Some of this wikipage is also in User Manual (e.g. Page 36 and further: [http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf])
*Some of this wikipage is also in User Manual (e.g. Page 36 and further: [http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf])


===HDD Manufacturers support and info webs===
*HDD Manufacturers External Links


====Fujitsu====
Fujitsu


http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/support_services/faq.html (fujistsu storage products model numbers)
http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/support_services/faq.html (fujistsu storage products model numbers)
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====Hitachi====
Hitachi


http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/newnum.htm
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/newnum.htm
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====Seagate====
Seagate


http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/204763en#notebook
http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/204763en#notebook
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http://www.seagate.com/support/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/momentus-laptop/
http://www.seagate.com/support/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/momentus-laptop/
http://www.seagate.com/support/internal-hard-drives/consumer-electronics/ld25-series/


ST=brand(seagate) 9=form factor(2.5") 6=size(60GB) 8=cache(8mb) 12=identifier AS=interface(SATA)
ST=brand(seagate) 9=form factor(2.5") 6=size(60GB) 8=cache(8mb) 12=identifier AS=interface(SATA)




====Toshiba====
Toshiba


Toshiba Europe Products - Client Hard Disk Drives: http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/hdd/hard_disk_drives/index.jsp#
Toshiba Europe Products - Client Hard Disk Drives: http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/hdd/hard_disk_drives/index.jsp#
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