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<div style="float:right">[[File:Missing Hard Drive Error on CECHC04 NAND.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Missing Hard Drive Error on NAND-consoles]]<br />[[File:Missing Hard Drive Error on NOR consoles.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Missing Hard Drive Error on NOR-consoles]]<br />[[File:PS3-Reserved-Area.png|200px|thumb|left|PS3 % Reserved Area<br />(system files {dev_flash}; {dev_flash2}; {dev_flash3}, game data {dev_hdd0}, system cache {dev_hdd1} etc]]</div>
[[Category:Hardware]]
<div style="float:right">[[File:CECHC04_NAND-system.jpg.JPG|200px|thumb|left|Most of the system software is on the harddrive, without one you get this error instead of XMB]]<br />[[File:PS3-Reserved-Area.png|200px|thumb|left|PS3 % Reserved Area<br />(system files {dev_flash}; {dev_flash2}; {dev_flash3}, game data {dev_hdd0}, system cache {dev_hdd1} etc]]</div>
 
= Harddrive =
* Internal : 2.5" SATA with several partitions
* External: USB Mass Storage device, supporting officially only FAT12/16/32.


== Internal harddrive ==
== Internal harddrive ==
All HDD models used in retail PS3's are 2.5" size and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter (and 1 or 2 heads), the platter has a rotational speed of 5.400 rpm and 512 bytes per sector


Is connected internally to [[South Bridge]] wich contains [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] to manage AES-CBC-128/AES-CBC-192/XTS-AES-128 encryption/decryption, and a SATA-150 controller with a maximum transfer speed of 1.5 Gbit/s.  
The PS3 uses a SATA (SATA-150) controller that has a maximum transfer speed of 1.5 Gb/s. All current PS3 models come with 5400RPM drives. The GameOS partition is an UFS2 256-bit [http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Harddrive#AES-256-CBC_versus_AES-256-XTS AES-CBC/AES-XTS] encrypted file system with a sectorsize of 512 bytes (4096 bits).


*GameOS partition
Because the GameOS partition is perconsole encrypted, it is not possible:
**Is an UFS2 256-bit file system with a sectorsize of 512 bytes (4096 bits).
* to read out the data on it with another console (it will just ask to reformat it, to set it to its own perconsole encryption, hence emptying the drive)
**Because it is per-console encrypted, it is not possible to read out the data on it with another console (it will just ask to reformat it, to set it to its own per-console encryption, hence emptying the drive)
* to read data out in Linux, BSD, Windows, Mac OS X (there are ways to mount it readonly, but it would still be encrypted and bruteforcing all <abbr title="1,1579208923731619542357098500869e+77">2^256</abbr> keys would take more time then your lifetime).


To read/write data out in Linux, BSD, Windows, or Mac OS X, you'll need to use the specific per-console "ATA tweak" and "ATA data" keys. See [[Harddrive#Harddrive_encryption|Harddrive encryption]] and [[HDD_Encryption]]
=== Model info ===
 
{| width="1800" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" border="#999" class="wikitable sortable" style="border:1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
*In some newer PS3 models (like [[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB) the internal harddrive has been replaced by a [[Flash_(Hardware)|Flash]]
|- bgcolor="#cccccc"
 
! SKU !! Manufacturer !! Model !! Size !! Seek !! Cache !! Transfer Speed !! Interface !! Passmark !! HDtune !! HDtach !! ATTO !! Comments
=== Harddrive Model info ===
The data in this table has been copied from manufacturer documents (datasheets or productsheets) available at support sites found at the links at bottom of the page
 
*A collection of productsheets/datasheets of the HDD models used in PS3, renamed by manufacturer/series: [[http://www.multiupload.nl/V3ISMS6Q80 Download]] (fujitsu series are missing)
 
{| class="wikitable"
|+
! rowspan=2 | Brand !! rowspan=2 | Series !! rowspan=2 | Model !! rowspan=2 | Capacity !! rowspan=2 | Rotation Speed<BR />(Platters/Heads) !! rowspan=2 | Buffer !! rowspan=2 | Interface !! rowspan=2 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} !! colspan=4 | Seek Speeds !! rowspan=2 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} !! colspan=4 | Power Requirements !! rowspan=2 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}} !! rowspan=2 | Operating<BR />Temp. !! rowspan=2 | Noise<BR />Max !! rowspan=2 | Used in PS3 Models
|-
! tracks !! latency !! read !! write !! startup !! idle !! read !! write
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
! rowspan=3 | Fujitsu
! MHW
| [[MHW2040BH]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHJxx]]
|-
! rowspan=2 | MHZ
| [[MHZ2080BH]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 1.9 W || 1.9 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.4 bels || [[CECHKxx]], [[CECHLxx]]
|-
| [[MHZ2160BH]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.5 ms || ?.?? ms || ?? ms || ?? ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 0.60 W || 2.1 W || 2.1 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECHPxx]], [[CECHQxx]]
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
! rowspan=6 | Hitachi
! Travelstar 5K160
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 40 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHHxx]]
|-
! Travelstar 5K250
| [[HTS542580K9SA00]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 0.85 W || 1.8 W || 1.8 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHLxx]]
|-
! Travelstar 5K500
| [[HTS545012B9SA00]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 14 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.80 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.9 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A, [[CECH-21xx]]A 
|-
! Travelstar Z5K500
| [[HTS545050A7E380]] || 500 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.2 ms || 5.50 ms || 13 ms || 13 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.6 W || 1.6 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 60 ºC || 2.1 bels || [[CECH-40xx]]C
|-
! Travelstar Z5K320-160
| [[HTS543216A7A384]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/?) || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || [[CECH-30xx]]A
|-
! Travelstar Z5K320-250
| [[HTS543225A7A384]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/?) || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || ? || ?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ? || ? || [[CECH-40xx]]B
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
! rowspan=5 | Seagate
! Momentus 5400.2
| [[ST96812AS]]  || 60 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 12 ms || 14 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.1 A || 0.99 W || 1.9 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 3.1 bels || [[CECHAxx]], [[CECHCxx]]
|-
! Momentus 5400.3
| [[ST980811AS]]  || 80 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.5 ms || 5.56 ms || 11 ms || 13 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 0.75 W || 1.9 W || 1.8 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 60 ºC || 3.2 bels || [[CECHExx]]
|-
! rowspan=2 | LD25 SATA
| [[ST920217AS]]  || 20 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 2 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || ?.?? W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHBxx]]
|-
| [[ST9402115AS]] || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || 5.60 ms || 16 ms || 16 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 2.00 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.7 bels || [[CECHGxx]], [[CECHHxx]], and probably in [[CECHJxx]]
|-
! LD25 5400.2
| [[ST940210AS]]  || 40 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 2 MB || SATA-150
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.5 ms || 5.60 ms || 15 ms || 15 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 1.0 A || 2.50 W || 2.3 W || 2.3 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 60 ºC || 2.6 bels || [[CECHGxx]], [[CECHJxx]], and probably in [[CECHHxx]]
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
! rowspan=10 | Toshiba
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX
| [[MK8052GSX]] || 80 GB  || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 25 dBA  || [[CECHLxx]]
|-
| [[MK1652GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 2.0 W || 2.0 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 25 dBA  || [[CECHPxx]], and probably in [[CECHQxx]]
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx55GSX
| [[MK1255GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]A <!-- also the [[CECH-21xx]]A and [[CECH-25xx]]A probably goes here -->
|-
| [[MK2555GSX]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.85 W || 1.4 W || 1.4 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 2.0 bels || [[CECH-20xx]]B <!-- also the [[CECH-21xx]]B and [[CECH-25xx]]B probably goes here -->
|-
|-
! rowspan=4 | MKxx65GSX
| [[CECHAxx]] || Seagate || Momentus [[ST96812AS]] || 60GB || 12.5ms || 8MB || 31.2 MB/s || SATA-150 || 236 || min:19.7 MB/s, max:39.0 MB/s, average:31.2 MB/s, accestime:16.9 ms, burst:90.5 MB/s, CPU usage:3.7% || || ||  
| [[MK1265GSX]] || 120 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-?
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ?.? ms || ?.?? ms || ? ms || ? ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ?.? A || ?.?? W || ?.? W || ?.? W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| ?? ºC || ?? dBA  || [[CECH-21xx]]A <!-- and [[CECH-25xx]]A ? -->
|-
|-
| [[MK1665GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[CECHBxx]] || Seagate || LD25 Series [[ST920217AS]] || 20GB || 16ms || 2MB || 23.9 MB/s || SATA-150 || 171 || min:2.0 MB/s, max 30.9 MB/s, average:23,9 MB/s, accestime:21.0 ms, burst:100.9 MB/s, CPU usage:0.8% || || ||  
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]A
|-
|-
| [[MK2565GSX]] || 250 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[CECHCxx]] || Seagate || Momentus [[ST96812AS]] || 60GB || 12.5ms || 8MB || 31.2 MB/s || SATA-150 || 236 || min:19.7 MB/s, max:39.0 MB/s, average:31.2 MB/s, accestime:16.9 ms, burst:90.5 MB/s, CPU usage:3.7% || || ||  
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 4.5 W || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-21xx]]B <!-- and [[CECH-25xx]]B ? -->
|-
|-
| [[MK3265GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[CECHExx]] || Seagate || Momentus [[ST980811AS]] || 80GB || - || 8MB || 41.4MB/s || SATA-150 || 240 || min:23.6 MB/s, max:53.2MB/s, average: 41,4 MB/s, accesstime:12.5 ms, burst:96.4 MB/s, CPU usage:10.7% || || ||  
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || ?.?? ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.75 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-25xx]]B
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx76GSX
| [[CECHGxx]] || Seagate || LD25 Series [[ST9402115AS]] || 40GB || 16ms || 2MB || - || SATA-150 || 182 || || || ||  
| [[MK1676GSX]] || 160 GB || 5400rpm (1/1) || 8 MB || SATA-300
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-30xx]]A
|-
|-
| [[MK3276GSX]] || 320 GB || 5400rpm (1/2) || 8 MB || SATA-300
| [[CECHHxx]] || Seagate || LD25 Series [[ST9402115AS]] || 40GB || 16ms || 2MB || - || SATA-150 || 182 || || || ||  
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 2.0 ms || 5.55 ms || 12 ms || 12 ms
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 0.9 A || 0.55 W || 1.5 W || 1.5 W
! {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
| 55 ºC || 20 dBA  || [[CECH-30xx]]B
|-
! colspan=21 {{cellcolors|lightgrey}}
|-
|}
'''Notes:''' Toshiba drives have a sticker that says "do not cover the breathing hole", but despite that it is stickered shut (simular to the smaller right one [http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61oppENMvDL._SL1500_.jpg here]) which makes it [http://forums.toshiba.com/t5/Satellite-Laptops-all-other/Toshiba-Hard-Drive-Failure-and-their-warning-label-s/td-p/388143 more prone to failure].
 
*Meassure units conversions:
**Watts = Amps * volts (or... Amps = Watts / Volts)
**There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared
 
{{Boxframe0|content='''PS3 models missing in the table above''' (waiting for reports, please help to complete the list)
*[[CECHMxx]] 80GB <--- Toshiba [[MK8052GSX]], or fujitsu [[MHZ2080BH]], or hitachi [[HTS542580K9SA00]] ?
*[[CECH-25xx]]A 120GB <--- toshiba [[MK1265GSX]] ?
*[[CECH-25xx]]B 250GB <--- toshiba [[MK2565GSX]] ?
*<strike>[[CECH-40xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
*<strike>[[CECH-42xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
*[[CECH-42xx]]B ??GB <---- ?
*[[CECH-42xx]]C ??GB <---- ?
*<strike>[[CECH-43xx]]A 12GB <---- internal flash storage (no HDD)</strike>
*[[CECH-43xx]]B ??GB <---- ?
*[[CECH-43xx]]C ??GB <---- ?
}}
 
*The [[CECH-25xx]] was originally shipped in "premiun" bundles with etras (move edition, etc...) with HDDs of capacity: A=160GB or B=320GB, but few months later sony made a price cut campaign, they started shipping it as a basic console (without extras) and the HDD capacities was reduced to A=120GB or B=250GB. This makes a total of 4 different HDD models for [[CECH-25xx]], by now the table above only contains info about 2 of them
 
==== Harddrive Speed Tests ====
This speed tests are only orientative because was made in PC's with different motherboards, and the results can be different in a PS3
 
<div style="width:1280px;">
{| class="wikitable"
|+Speed Tests (PC)
! rowspan=3 | Brand !! rowspan=3 | Series !! rowspan=3 | Model !! colspan=15 | Windows !! colspan=3 | Linux
|-
|-
! colspan=6 | [[http://www.hdtune.com/ HDtune]] !! colspan=4 | [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Tach HDtach]] !! colspan=3 | [[http://www.attotech.com/products/family.php?id=10 ATTO]] !! colspan=2 | [[http://www.passmark.com/ PassMark]] !! colspan=3 | [[http://www.serverschool.com/server-configuration/hard-disk-testing-with-hdparm/ hdparm -Tt]]
| [[CECHHxx]] || Hitachi || Travelstar 5K160 [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 40GB || 11ms || 8MB || 38.8 MB/s || SATA-150 || 261 ||  min:15.2 MB/s, max:48.7 MB/s, average:38.8 MB/s, accesstime:17.1 ms, burst:91.3 MB/s, CPU usage:2.0% || average read:40.5 MB/s, burst read: 116.3 MB/s, accesstime:17.1 ms, CPU utilisation:7% ||  ||
|-
|-
! Min.<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! Max.<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! Average<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! Access<BR /><sup>(ms)</sup> !! Burst<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! <abbr title="If there is no link available for the speed test, please include your notes in this format">Link</abbr> !! Average<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! Burst<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! Access<BR /><sup>(ms)</sup> !! <abbr title="If there is no link available for the speed test, please include your notes in this format">Link</abbr> !! Write<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! Read<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! <abbr title="If there is no link available for the speed test, please include your notes in this format">Link</abbr> !! Score<BR /><sup>(rating)</sup> !! <abbr title="If there is no link available for the speed test, please include your notes in this format">Link</abbr> !! Cache read<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! Disk read<BR /><sup>(MB/s)</sup> !! <abbr title="If there is no link available for the speed test, please include your notes in this format">Link</abbr>
| [[CECHJxx]] || Seagate || [[ST940210AS]] || 40GB || 14ms || 2MB || 27.2 MB/s || SATA-150 || 234 ||  min:21.0 MB/s, max:30.6 MB/s, average: 27.2 MB/s, accesstime:18.5ms, burst:22.8 MB/s, CPU usage:10.5% / read speed:34.8 MB/s accesstime:16.6 ms, burst:88.1 MB/s ||  ||  ||
|-
|-
! colspan=21 |  
| [[CECHJxx]] || Fujitsu || [[MHW2040BH]] || 40GB || 12ms || 8MB || 30.0 MB/s || SATA-150 || 214 ||  max:38 MB/s, min:18 MB/s, average:30 MB/s || average read: 28.2 MB/s, burst read:28.5MB/s, accesstime:21.8ms, CPU utilisation:3% ||  ||  
|-
|-
! rowspan=3 | Fujitsu
| [[CECHKxx]] || Fujitsu || [[MHZ2080BH]] || 80GB || 12ms || 8MB || 46.0 MB/s || SATA-300, PMR || 311 || max:61.8 MB/s, min:13.6 MB/s, average:46.0 MB/s, accesstime:18.3ms, burst:72.2 MB/s, CPU usage:5.2% ||  ||  ||  
! MHW
| [[MHW2040BH]] || 14.3 || 46.1 || 34.3 || 17.7 || 100
! [[http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1224/14stycznia20121631b.png 1]]
| 28.2 || 28.5 || 21.8
! [[http://dyski.cdrinfo.pl/benchmark/Fujitsu-MHW2040BH-162/ 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
| 215
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/pt7_hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MHZ
| [[CECHLxx]] || Fujitsu || [[MHZ2080BH]] || 80GB || 12ms || 8MB || 46.0 MB/s || SATA-300, PMR || 311 ||  max:61.8 MB/s, min:13.6 MB/s, average:46.0 MB/s, accesstime:18.3ms, burst:72.2 MB/s, CPU usage:5.2% ||  ||  ||  
| [[MHZ2080BH]] || 13.6 || 61.8 || 46.0 || 18.3 || 72.2
! ?
|  ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||
! N/A
| 324
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
| [[MHZ2160BH]] || 33.4 <BR />20.6 <BR />15.4 <BR />31.7 <BR />6.7 || 68.2 <BR />26.2 <BR />63.4 <BR />63.1 <BR />63.5 || 54.3 <BR />24.9 <BR />50.4 <BR />50.5 <BR />46.1 || 17.2 <BR />17.9 <BR />17.4 <BR />17.3 <BR />19.3 || 75.2 <BR />20.5 <BR />75.7 <BR />75.2 <BR />71.5
| [[CECHLxx]] || Hitachi || Travelstar 5K250 [[HTS542580K9SA00]] || 80GB || 12ms || 8MB || 34.4 MB/s || SATA-150 || 226 ||   min:22.1 MB/s, max:44.3 MB/s, average: 34.4 MB/s, accesstime:17.4ms, burst:77.0 MB/s, CPU usage:1.2% || average read:36.0 MB/s, accesstime:16.9ms ||  ||  
! [[http://dyski.cdrinfo.pl/benchmark/Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH-686/ 1]] <BR /> [[http://dyski.cdrinfo.pl/benchmark/Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH-686/ 2]] <BR />[[http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/7203-NC10%27s-hard-drive-mine-is-a-Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH?s=377cd0a59e06ce21f2701927d0caffa5&p=53822&viewfull=1#post53822 3]] <BR />[[http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/7203-NC10%27s-hard-drive-mine-is-a-Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH 4]] <BR />[[http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/7203-NC10%27s-hard-drive-mine-is-a-Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH?s=377cd0a59e06ce21f2701927d0caffa5&p=53814&viewfull=1#post53814 5]]
| 57.3 || 77.3 || 17.3
! [[http://dyski.cdrinfo.pl/benchmark/Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH-686/ 1]]
| 66444 || 64450
! [[http://dyski.cdrinfo.pl/benchmark/Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH-686/ 1]]
| 337
! [[http://64.130.25.90/hdd.php?hdd=FUJITSU+MHZ2160BH&id=1149 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! colspan=21 |  
| [[CECHLxx]] || Toshiba || [[MK8052GSX]] || 80GB || 12ms || 8MB || 46.0 MB/s || - || 326 ||  min:6.6 MB/s, max:61.2 MB/s, average: 46.0 MB/s, accesstime:18.1ms, burst:87.3 MB/s, CPU usage:15.0% /  min:9.7 MB/s, max:27.5 MB/s, average: 24.3 MB/s, accesstime:19.1ms, burst:24.7 MB/s, CPU usage:4.9% ||  ||  ||  
|-
|-
! rowspan=4 | Hitachi
| [[CECHMxx]] || -  || - || 80GB || - || - || - || - || ||  || ||  ||
! Travelstar 5K160
| [[HTS541640J9SA00]] || 15.2 || 48.7 || 38.8 || 17.1 || 91.3
! [[http://dyski.cdrinfo.pl/benchmark/hdtune/hdtune-512-88850-296ulgarBusVY.png 1]]
| 40.5 || 116.3 || 17.1
! [[http://dyski.cdrinfo.pl/benchmark/hdtach/hdtach-512-88850-296nOdXJFQTEv.png 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
| 254
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! Travelstar 5K250
| [[CECHPxx]] || Fujitsu || [[MHZ2160BH]] || 160GB || 12ms || 8MB || 46.1 MB/s || SATA-300 PMR || 245 || min:33.4 MB/s, max:68.2, average:54.3 MB/s, accesstime:17.2ms, burst:75.2 MB/s, CPU usage:1% /  min:15.4 MB/s, max:63.4 MB/s, average:50.4 MB/s, accesstime:17.4ms, burst:75.7 MB/s, CPU usage:10.0% /  min:31.7 MB/s, max:63.1 MB/s, average:50.5 MB/s, accesstime:17.3ms, burst:75.2 MB/s, CPU usage:3.8% /  min:6.7 MB/s, max:63.5 MB/s, average:46.1 MB/s, accesstime:19.3ms, burst:71.5 MB/s, CPU usage:8.6.8% / min:29.3 MB/s, max:60.2 MB/s, average:46.4 MB/s, accesstime:21.9ms, burst:81.1 MB/s, CPU usage:2.4% / min:27.8 MB/s, max:60.2 MB/s, average:46.9 MB/s, accesstime:17.4ms, burst:66.3 MB/s, CPU usage:1.3%  ||  average read:57.3 MB/s, burst read:77.3 MB/s, accesstime:17.3ms, CPU utilisation:6% || 66444 KB/s / 64450 KB/s ||
| [[HTS542580K9SA00]] || 22.1|| 44.3 || 34.4 || 17.4 || 77.0
! ?
| 36.0 || ? || 16.9
! ?
| ||
! N/A
| 247
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! Travelstar 5K500
| [[CECHPxx]] || Toshiba || [[MK1652GSX]] || 160GB || 12ms || 8MB || 48.7 MB/s || SATA-300 PMR || 341 || min:16.9 MB/s, max:61.8 MB/s, average:49.5 MB/s, accesstime:18.1ms, burst:73.0 MB/s, CPU usage:4.8% /  min:20.1 MB/s, max:61.9 MB/s, average:48.7 MB/s, accesstime:18.0ms, burst:72.8 MB/s, CPU usage:4.1% /  min:31.2 MB/s, max:61.8 MB/s, average:50.2 MB/s, accesstime:18.7ms, burst:73.3 MB/s, CPU usage:3.9% /  min:20.5 MB/s, max:61.8 MB/s, average:47.2 MB/s, accesstime:18.1ms, burst:76.7 MB/s, CPU usage:?% ||  average read: 50.6 MB/s, burst read: 151.8 MB/s, accesstime:18.1ms || 57604 KB/s / 61077 KB/s ||
| [[HTS545012B9SA00]] || 36.5 || 79.2 || 62.0 || 20.2 || 99.9
! ?
| || ||
! N/A
| ||
! N/A
| 377
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! Travelstar Z5K500
| [[CECHQxx]] || Fujitsu || [[MHZ2160BH]] || 160GB || 12ms || 8MB || 46.1 MB/s || SATA-300 PMR || 245 || min:33.4 MB/s, max:68.2 MB/s, average:54.3 MB/s, accesstime:17.2ms, burst:75.2 MB/s, CPU usage:1% /  min:15.4 MB/s, max:63.4 MB/s, average:50.4 MB/s, accesstime:17.4ms, burst:75.7 MB/s, CPU usage:10.0% /  min:31.7 MB/s, max:63.1 MB/s, average:50.5 MB/s, accesstime:17.3ms, burst:75.2 MB/s, CPU usage:3.8% / min:6.7 MB/s, max:63.5 MB/s, average:46.1 MB/s, accesstime:19.3ms, burst:71.5 MB/s, CPU usage:8.6.8% / min:29.3 MB/s, max:60.2 MB/s, average:46.4 MB/s, accesstime:21.9ms, burst:81.1 MB/s, CPU usage:2.4% / min:27.8 MB/s, max:60.2 MB/s, average:46.9 MB/s, accesstime:17.4ms, burst:66.3 MB/s, CPU usage:1.3%  ||  average read:57.3 MB/s, burst read:77.3 MB/s, accesstime:17.3ms, CPU utilisation:6% || 66444 KB/s / 64450 KB/s ||
| [[HTS545050A7E380]] || 45.6 || 103.5 || 80 || 19.9 || 137.7
! [[http://bloggingmadeeasy2.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/review-hp-pavilion-g6-2200sg-notebook.html 1]]
| || ||
! N/A
| ||
! N/A
| 646
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/pt7_hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! colspan=21 |  
| [[CECH-20xx]]A || Toshiba || [[MK1255GSX]] || 120GB || 12ms || 8MB || 52.9 MB/s || SATA-300 PMR || 395 ||  min:24.8 MB/s, max:72.4 MB/s, average:52.9 MB/s, accesstime:17.6ms, burst:74.3 MB/s, CPU usage:8.3% ||  ||  ||  
|-
|-
! rowspan=5 | Seagate
| [[CECH-20xx]]A || Hitachi || 5K500 [[HTS545012B9SA00]] || 120GB || 11ms || 8MB || 62.0 MB/s || SATA-150 || ?363? ||  min:36.5 MB/s, max:79.2 MB/s, average:62.0 MB/s, accesstime:20.2ms, burst:99.9 MB/s, CPU usage:3.2% ||  ||  ||  
! Momentus 5400.2
| [[ST96812AS]] || 12.9 || 40.2 || 32.2 || 15.8 || 83.4
! [[http://www.hdtune.com/results/Seagate_ST96812AS.gif 1]]
| || ||  
! N/A
|  ||
! N/A
| 235
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! Momentus 5400.3
| [[CECH-20xx]]B || Toshiba  || [[MK2555GSX]] || 250GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  || ||  ||  
| [[ST980811AS]] || 20.9 || 41.8 || 33.1 || 15.9 || 89.4
! [[http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3429/hdtunebenchmarkst980811hd9.png 1]]
| ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 236
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | LD25 SATA
| [[CECH-21xx]]A || -  || - || 120GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  || ||  ||  
| [[ST920217AS]] || 2.0 || 30.9 || 23,9 || 21.0 || 100.9
! [[http://img2.coneco.net/review/33348_02l.jpg?d=20130129071954 1]]
| ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 167
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/pt7_hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
| [[ST9402115AS]] ||  || || || ||  
| [[CECH-21xx]]B || - || - || 250GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  || ||  ||  
! N/A
| ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 186
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/pt7_hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! LD25 5400.2
| [[CECH-25xx]]A || -  || - || 120GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  || ||  ||  
| [[ST940210AS]] || 21.0 || 30.6 || 27.2 || 18.5 || 22.8
! ?
| ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 230
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/pt7_hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! colspan=21 |  
| [[CECH-25xx]]A || Toshiba || [[MK1665GSX]] || 160GB || 12ms || 8MB || 74.6 MB/s || SATA-300 ||  ||  min:45.9 MB/s, max:93.8 MB/s, average:74.6 MB/s, accesstime:16.8ms, burst:203.6 MB/s, CPU usage:11.4% ||  average read:77.3 MB/s, burst read:242.6 MB/s, accesstime:16.7ms, CPU utilisation:1% ||  97969 KB/s / 93858 KB/s ||  
|-
|-
! rowspan=8 | Toshiba
| [[CECH-25xx]]B || -  || - || 250GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  || ||  ||  
! rowspan=2 | MKxx52GSX
| [[MK8052GSX]] || 6.6 <BR />9.7 || 61.2 <BR />27.5 || 46.0 <BR />24.3 || 18.1 <BR />19.1 || 87.3 <BR />24.7
! [[http://colette.trianglesoft.net/2008/img/0812/HDTune_Benchmark_TOSHIBA_MK8052GSX.png 1]] <BR />[[http://2chnull.info/r/jisaku/1204293948/ 2]]
| ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 323
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
| [[MK1652GSX]] || 16.9 <BR />31.2 <BR />20.5 || 61.8 <BR />61.8 <BR />61.8 || 49.5 <BR />50.2 <BR />47.2 || 18.1 <BR />18.7 <BR />18.1 || 73.0 <BR />73.3 <BR />76.7
| [[CECH-25xx]]B || Toshiba || [[MK3276GSX]] || 320GB || 12ms || 8MB || 68 MB/s || SATA-300 || 516 || min:41.9 MB/s, max:89.6 MB/s, average:68.0 MB/s, accesstime:16.8ms, burst:143.2 MB/s, CPU usage:1%  ||  || || Crystal: Seq R/W: 88.61/87.61 MB/s, 512K R/W: 33.91/36.79 MB/s, 4K R/W: 0.451/0.987 MB/s, 4K QD32 R/W: 1.043/1.016 MB/s
! [[http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/7203-NC10%27s-hard-drive-mine-is-a-Fujitsu-MHZ2160BH?p=53836&viewfull=1#post53836 1]] <BR />[[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Laptop-harddisks-HDD-SSD-comparison.22089.0.html 2]] <BR />?
| 50.6 || 151.8 || 18.1
! ?
| 57604 || 61077
! ?
| 326
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx55GSX
| [[CECH-25xx]]A || -  || - || 120GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  || ||  ||  
| [[MK1255GSX]] || 24.8 || 72.4 || 52.9 || 17.6 || 74.3
! [[http://www.notebookcheck.net/typo3temp/pics/44c7928a60.jpg 1]]
| ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 458
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
| [[MK2555GSX]] || 26.3 || 76.4 || 40.9 || 19.5 || 116.5
| [[CECH-25xx]]B || -  || - || 250GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  
! [[http://www.notebookcheck.org/Analisis-del-Subportatil-Acer-Aspire-Timeline-1810TZ.22224.0.html 1]]
|  ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||
! N/A
| 402
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx65GSX
| [[CECH-25xx]]B || -  || - || 320GB || - || - || - || - || || || ||  ||  
| [[MK1665GSX]] || 45.9 || 93.8 || 74.6 || 16.8 || 203.6
! [[http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/cerny/2011/SSD_SandForce_Toshiba_Indilinx/38_hd_tune_read.png 1]]
| 77.3 || 242.6 || 16.7
! [[http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/cerny/2011/SSD_SandForce_Toshiba_Indilinx/38_hd_tach.png 1]]
| 97969 || 97259
! [[http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/cerny/2011/SSD_SandForce_Toshiba_Indilinx/38_atto.png 1]]
| 518
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
| [[MK3265GSX]] || 43.5 || 88.0 || 67.8 || 17.1 || 184.5
| [[CECH-25xx]]A || -  || - || 160GB || - || - || - || - ||  || || ||  ||  
! [[http://img.techpowerup.org/110911/Capture003.jpg 1]]
| ||  ||  
! N/A
| 88446 || 76586
! [[http://img.techpowerup.org/110912/Capture016695.jpg 1]]
| 476
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! rowspan=2 | MKxx76GSX
| [[CECH-25xx]]B || -  || - || 320GB || - || - || - || - ||  ||  || ||  ||  
| [[MK1676GSX]] || 46.0 || 96.7 || 76.6 || 16.2 || 206.6
! ?
| ||  ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 514
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
| [[MK3276GSX]] || 23.7 || 87.7 || 65.3 || 17.6 || 89.2
| [[CECH-30xx]]A || Toshiba || [[MK1676GSX]] || 160GB || 12ms || 8MB || 72.4MB/s || SATA-300 ||  || min 46.0 MB/s, max: 96.7 MB/s, average: 76.6 MB/s, accesstime:16.2ms, burst206.6 MB/s, CPU usage: 1% ||  ||   ||
! [[http://www.notebookcheck.net/typo3temp/pics/ba672c9f6f.png 1]]
|  || ||
! N/A
|  ||  
! N/A
| 519
! [[http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php 1]]
|  ||
! N/A
|-
|-
! colspan=21 |  
| [[CECH-30xx]]B || Toshiba || [[MK3276GSX]] || 320GB || 12ms || 8MB || 68 MB/s || SATA-300 || 516 ||  min:41.9 MB/s, max:89.6 MB/s, average:68.0 MB/s, accesstime:16.8ms, burst:143.2 MB/s, CPU usage:1%  ||  ||  || Crystal: Seq R/W: 88.61/87.61 MB/s, 512K R/W: 33.91/36.79 MB/s, 4K R/W: 0.451/0.987 MB/s, 4K QD32 R/W: 1.043/1.016 MB/s
|-
|-
|}
|}
</div>
*There is no HDD speed test tool for PS3 GameOS, in PS3 OtherOS/linux hdparm can be used for a simple speed test
*There is a '''Speed Tests (PS3)''' table in [[Talk:Harddrive#Experimental_Tables|Talk Page]] ready to include this speed tests made in PS3, feel free to add your results or/and copy the whole table here when needed


=== Internal Harddrive maximum capacity ===
The maximum size of the internal harddrive that the PS3 supports is 1TB (TeraBytes)  
When talking about compatibility is important to keep in mind the PS3 firmware could be partially "broken" by using a large capacity, most specifically the filesystem manteinance functions that are the resposibles to run the filesystem checks (and repair the posible filesystem problems if needed), the filesystem manteinance functions runs in the background while on XMB (periodically?), and additionally the PS3 firmware runs a "filesystem check" under 2 conditions: after a firmware crash (in other words, after a shutting down the device without the proper filesytem "unmount"), and when we use the option 3 from [[Recovery_Menu#3._Restore_File_System | Recovery Menu]] named '''3. Restore File System'''<br>
<pre>note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB</pre>
There are some harddrive capacities (in between 1TB and 2TB) where the PS3 formats it correctly, allows to install games, and could potentially run fine for a few months but "breaks" the filesystem manteinance functions. In this case what happens is every little filesystem error (caused by firmware freezes/crashes or interrupted file transfers from FTP/USB) are going to stay forever in the filesystem gets cummulated with other filesystem errors up to a point where the whole filesystem collapses and you are welcomed with a warning screen where the only option is to format it (in other words, is imposible to restore it). When this happens you lost all his contents, and the last hope to recover some files from it is by using the "EID root key" to decrypt his contents in a PC


{| class="wikitable"
=== Internal SATA to External drive/cradle ===
|-
! colspan="4" | Capacity !! rowspan="2" | Formatting !! rowspan="2" | Filesystem check !! rowspan="2" | Notes
|-
! <abbr title="512 bytes each">Sectors</abbr> !! Bytes !! <abbr title="Gibibytes">GiB</abbr> !! <abbr title="Gigabytes">GB</abbr>
|-
| 1,677,721,600  || 858,993,459,200 || 800 || ~858 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 1,887,436,800  || 966,367,641,600 || 900 || ~966 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 1,953,125,000  || 1,000,000,000,000 || ~931 || 1000 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || Your typical 1TB SSD
|-
| 1,992,294,400  || 1,020,054,732,800 || 950 || ~1020 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 2,013,265,920  || 1,030,792,151,040 || 960 || ~1030 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-
| 2,019,557,376  || 1,034,013,376,512 || 963 || ~1034 || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||
|-style="background:#fc8; line-height:75%"
| colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | unknown ||  ||  || The exact limit where the '''filesystem check''' functions gets broken is unknown
|-
| 2,020,081,664  || 1,034,281,811,968 || 963.25 || ~1034 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,023,751,680 || 1,036,160,860,160 || 965 || ~1036 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,034,237,440  || 1,041,529,569,280 || 970 || ~1041 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,044,723,200  || 1,046,898,278,400 || 975 || ~1046 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,097,152,000 || 1,073,741,824,000 || 1000 || ~1073 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 2,147,483,647 || 1,099,511,627,264 || 1024-(1 sector) || ~1099 || {{yes}} || {{no}} || 32bit integer limit
|-
| 2,147,483,648 || 1,099,511,627,776 || 1024 || ~1099 || {{yes}} || {{no}} ||
|-
| 3,221,225,472 || 1,649,267,441,664 || 1536 || ~1649 || {{yes}} || {{no}} || emer_init performs HDD check and throw error if capacity is higher than this exact value.
|-style="background:#fc8; line-height:75%"
| colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | unknown ||  ||  || The exact limit where the '''formatting''' functions gets broken is unknown
|-
| 3,907,029,168 || 2,000,398,934,016 || ~1863 || ~2000 || {{no}} || {{no}} ||
|}


=== Harddrive info From software ===
You can also convert the internal SATA to an external eSATA port, to which you can connect a eSATA cradle or eSATA harddrive. Example of such a cable : http://www.cutedigi.com/images/sata_2_esata_cable.jpg


==== Harddrive info in Flash ====
More solutions are listed here: [[Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive|Solutions for swapping / externalise the harddrive]]


*In NOR flash
=== Internal Harddrive info in NOR ===
  Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
  Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
      
      
Line 593: Line 106:
  00F20240  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  00F20240  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................


*In GameOS
=== Replacing the internal harddisk ===
See [[DeviceID]] '''ext_nor_flash'''


==== Harddrive info in xregistry.sys ====
For compatibility, if you have a SATA-300 (sometimes called SATA-II or SATA2) harddrive, you should sometimes set the harddrive via jumper to enforce the slower SATA-150 speed, instead of default 3 Gb/s of SATA-300.
In path: dev_flash2/etc/[[XRegistry.sys]]


The entry: '''setting/system/hddSerial''' contains the "HDD model" + "HDD Serial"
Step-by-step:


PC tools: [http://github.com/kakaroto/ps3utils PS3Utils] in linux or [http://stoker25.com/files/xRegistryEditor075.rar xRegistry.sys Editor 0.75] in windows
* Download the FULL version of FW you currently have (tip: see here) on the old harddisk and put it on a USB Mass Storage Device formatted with FAT32 in \PS3\UPDATE\PS3UPDAT.PUP


==== Harddrive info from SCSI/atapi commands in GameOS ====
* If you wish to transfer your savegames / installed games, trophies, DLC/PSN etc. you can use Backup / Restore BEFORE you exchange the harddisk. You’ll need a FAT32 formatted External Drive for that (with enough free space). The backups will be stored in \PS3\EXPORT\BACKUP\ in a subfolder with the backupdate/time as name and in there several DAT files (archive.dat, archive_00.dat, archive2.dat and archive2_[4GBSPLITNR].dat etc.) This same drive can be used to store the FW mentioned earlier)
Normally on PC, you would use:
sg_logs SCSI LOG SENSE -t command
See also:
* http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/Interface%20manuals/100293068c.pdf
* http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_logs


For PS3, see also [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#SCSI_Commands|HV SCSI Commands]] and [[LV2_Functions_and_Syscalls#sys_storage_Syscalls|LV2 sys_storage_Syscalls]]
* Disconnect the LAN/UTP cable to disable the possibility that another FW (3.50) gets downloaded


Not much specific to hdd temperature on ps3 in gameos documented yet
* Power Off the PS3 (disconnect the power cable) and open the HD tray (left/bottom) to exchange the original 2.5″ drive for the newer/larger/faster one (remark: use max. 9.5mm height drives). ** Remark: The screws which are used to mount the internal hardisk in the PS3 HD-tray are made of soft aluminium. Use a good fitting screwdriver, or you’re bound to abuse the “X” bithole and must resort to flat pliers to get the screws out.


=== Harddrive encryption ===
* After everything is in place, insert the USB Mass Storage Device you prepared earlier and power ON the PS3. The new HD is detected and the PS3 wants to format it. Select YES and wait until format is finished. After that you can select Update to select the FW on the USB Mass Storage Device (in case it didn’t already do that automaticly after format).
PS3 uses '''XTS-AES-128''' to encrypt the internal HDD drive on SLIM consoles and '''AES-CBC-128/AES-CBC-192''' on PHAT consoles.


Good paper about XTS-AES: http://ntnu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:347753/FULLTEXT01
* After succesfull format and installation of the System Software / Firmware, reboot and check in XMB System Information to see which FW is currently used and how much is usable for the XMB.


XTS-AES-128 means that there are 2 keys of size 128bit actually, the one for tweak encryption and the other for data encryption.
The above semi-guide is also readable in the PS3 Owners Manual.
Both keys are different on each PS3 console and can be easily dumped e.g. with modified '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''.
These 2 keys are sent to [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] which performs HDD encryption/decryption. '''HDD keys are NOT stored in [[Flash#EID_4_-_Section_4|EID4]].'''.
On PHAT consoles the only data key is used with zeroed IV.


Currently i'm able to decrypt my PS3 HDD on PC and i can also talk to the [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] without isolated SPU modules.
====TIP(s)====
Exchanging the internal drive to a 7200RPM model doesn’t do much for your loading times (shaves off a second or 2) and upgrading to SSD/Flash Drives is almost insane considering the prices you pay per GB. Any modern larger drive is always faster than the older default smaller drive.
Some people are argueing that SSD/Flash Drives produce "much less heat" but consider this: a very good/efficient one uses 5V 0.35A  1.75 Watt while a harddrive uses 5V 0.85A  4.25 Watt. A difference of 2.5W less on a total of 225Watt is not something you would see back on your electric bill or thermometer.


To be able to talk to the ENCDEC device, you have to extract 2 AES-CBC keys and one magic e.g. from '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]''' .
Because of the low price/ high storage capacity I personally always go for SATAII/300 7200rpm drives (if internal, maximum height is 9.5mm, 12 or 12.5mm doesn’t fit) and if modified to external via eSATA you can even use cheaper/faster 3.5″ drives (but you’ll need them to have their own powersupply because the internal PS3 powersupply can’t power that safely).
First, the 2 AES-CBC are used to establish a secure session between the host and the ENCDEC device. The host and the ENCDEC
device exchange 2 random numbers and derive a session key from these random numbers. The session key is then used to encrypt the actual command sent to the ENCDEC device from the host. A command can e.g. set ATA keys.


Dumping ATA keys (128bit tweak and 128bit data key) is easy, i did it on PS3 Linux with my '''spuisofs''' driver and a modified
version of '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''. ATA keys are passed as parameters to this module and i just copied them with MFC DMA to PPU memory
and stopped the execution of the SPU.


=== Firmware harddrive tools ===
==== Original vs Replacement Drives speed comparison ====


==== Format Utility ====
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" border="#999" class="wikitable" style="border:1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"  
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/formatutility.html
|- bgcolor="#cccccc"
 
! Harddisk !! Interface !! RPM !! Size !! Model !! Seq.read !! Av.Read !! Burst.Read !! Accestime
==== Backup Utility ====
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/backuputility.html
 
'''About not-backuped files'''
 
Savegames in PS3 format and trophies are linked to the console/user by using their PARAM.SFO... if you look in this table [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PARAM.SFO#SFO_Requirements_for_HDD_contents|SFO Requirements for HDD contents] in their respective columns, the critical param_keys that needs to be taken in consideation when importing/exporting to another account or console are: ACCOUNTID, ACCOUNT_ID, PARAMS, and SAVEDATA_LIST_PARAM
There are several scenarios for importing exporting in the same or other console, between accounts, between registered and not registered PSN accounts, etc... One scenario that deserves a mention because the simplicity is when you replace the HDD, your account is not registered in PSN, and your PS3 uses a NOR flash
 
PS3 accounts not registered in PSN use an account id filled with zeroes (that's normal, and is taken as a real number by the system), and trophies are only linked to ACCOUNTID !!!. If your source and target accounts are not registered in PSN you can simply paste the old trophy folders in the new account (dev_hdd0/home/<any_user_id_here>) in your new HDD and "rebuild database", that's all. You can use the same "trick" to transfer trophies between accounts in the same or other console if none of them are registered in PSN (yes, all the PS3 CFW users of the world not registered in PSN can share their trophies just by copy-pasting files)
 
For gamesaves the ACCOUNT_ID is also used, but like explained above (because in this example the source and target accounts are not registered in PSN) this is not a problem, the problem here are the contents of PARAMS and SAVEDATA_LIST_PARAM
 
Actually, are not a problem in all cases because chances are high that all values matches, but usually what changes is the "User ID" assigned to the account the first time it was created (you know... this 00000001 folder that was assiged to the first user you created inside dev_hdd0/home/<user_id_here>/), This number is a counter that always increases (even when you erase users it will not decrease) is stored inside xregistry.sys, and inside the gamesaves in the PARAMS
 
Probably you need to change this number to match the new account, so after replacing the HDD and creating a new account, it's a good time to keep this account number 00000001 and modify all the saves to match the 00000001 inside their PARAM. The other known values inside PARAM doesn't need to be changed (because we are importing/exporting in the same console, so "PS3 console ID" is the same)... you only need to change this when moving the save to another console
 
All this tasks are simple edits in the PARAM.SFO file... you could even make it with a hex editor if you are used to .SFO format, to simplify it you can use some .SFO editor (one that allows to change this values) or one gamesave editor
 
Trophies and PS3 saves are protected by .PFD files so in case you modified one of the .SFO, then you need to "update" the list of protected files inside the .PFD (because PARAM.SFO is always in the list). When you update the .PFD the new PARAM.SFO is added to the list and this makes the whole gamesave folder/files "valid" and ready to be copied in the PS3. You will also need to "rebuild database" at the end of the process
 
The PFD "update" is one of the commands inside "flatz pfd tools", it returns some info about the protected files inside the table with an "OK" at the end of each line when everything is fine.
 
 
*Notes
**Part of the contents of PARAMS and SAVEDATA_LIST_PARAM are still unknown, (it's awesome how some people that uses/codes savegame cheat apps are still ignoring this... and I'm not talking about flatz, his purpose was to break the .pfd security to unlocking/transfering protected user files between legit offline accounts and no cheating purposes) --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 02:40, 28 January 2014 (EST)
**About NAND or NOR consoles... xregistry.sys contains "Account ID" and "User ID"
***Is PS3's with NOR xregistry.sys is stored in "Virtual flash" (a partition in HDD)
***In the case of NOR when replacing/formatting the HDD you are deleting the file, so is generated at next boot (and filled with the user info the first time you create a new user, that will be assigned the "account id" 00000001). This is not bad, actually is a good way to "cleanup" the xregistry.sys because the PS3 will generate a "fresh one" from scratch (usually xregistry.sys contains lot of areas marked as "not used" from old users that was erased, other old data, the annoying user counter that always increases, and even errors)
***Is PS3's with NAND xregistry.sys is stored in "NAND flash"
***In the case of NAND when replacing/formatting the HDD you keep the file with the old users info, the user counter increasing, etc... i dont know a good/efective/simple way to regenerate it --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 02:15, 28 January 2014 (EST)
 
==== Data Transfer Utility ====
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/transferutility.html
 
=== Harddrive replacements, modifications, expansion parts ===
 
==== Replacing the internal harddrive ====
For compatibility, if you have a SATA-300 (sometimes called SATA-II or SATA2) or SATA-600 (sometimes called SATA-III or SATA3) harddrive, you should sometimes set the harddrive via jumper to enforce the slower SATA-150 speed, instead of default 3 Gb/s of SATA-300 / 6Gb/s of SATA-600.
{{Boxframe1|content='''Step-by-step guide'''
# Download the FULL version of FW you currently have on the old harddrive and put it on a USB Mass Storage Device formatted with FAT32 in \PS3\UPDATE\PS3UPDAT.PUP
# If you wish to transfer your installed games, savedata, DLC/PSN, /Photo, /Music, /Video, bookmarks etc. you can use Backup / Restore BEFORE you exchange the harddrive. You’ll need a FAT32 formatted External Drive for that (with enough free space). The backups will be stored in \PS3\EXPORT\BACKUP\ in a subfolder with the backupdate/time as name and in there several DAT files (archive.dat, archive_00.dat, archive2.dat and archive2_[4GBSPLITNR].dat etc.) This same drive can be used to store the FW mentioned earlier)
# Disconnect the LAN/UTP cable and remove all discs from the BD-drive, to disable the possibility that another firmware gets downloaded/installed
# Power Off the PS3 (disconnect the power cable) and open the HD tray (left/bottom) to exchange the original 2.5″ drive for the newer/larger/faster one (remark: use max. 9.5mm height drives).<ul><li>Remark: The screws which are used to mount the internal hardisk in the PS3 HD-tray are made of soft aluminium. Use a good fitting screwdriver, or you’re bound to abuse the “X” bithole and must resort to flat pliers to get the screws out.</li></ul>
# After everything is in place, insert the USB Mass Storage Device you prepared earlier and power ON the PS3. The new HD is detected and the PS3 wants to format it. Select YES and wait until format is finished. After that you can select Update to select the FW on the USB Mass Storage Device (in case it didn’t already do that automaticly after format).
# After succesfull format and installation of the System Software / Firmware, reboot and check in XMB System Information to see which FW is currently used and how much is usable for the XMB.
 
 
*Note: Copy-protected saved data cannot be restored. Also, saved data that has been restored may not be usable in some games. Trophies are not backed up by the XMB Backup Option!
*The above semi-guide is also readable in the PS3 Owners Manual [http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=362 Knowledge Centre: Can I upgrade the hard disk drive (HDD) inside my PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system?] and [http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/backuputility.html PS3 User's Guide :: Settings > System Settings > Backup Utility]
}}
 
 
===== Economic contemplation =====
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Type !! €/GB !! <abbr title="price compared to 2.5" 1TB 5400 rpm HDD">%</abbr>
|-
| 3.5" 7200 rpm HDD || 0,048 || style="background-color:#b0ffb0;"| {{Round|90.566037736|1}}
|-
| 3.5" 5400 rpm HDD || 0,049 || style="background-color:#a0ffa0;"| {{Round|92.452830189|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 5400 rpm HDD || 0,053 || style="background-color:#80ff80;"| {{Round|100.000000000|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 7200 rpm HDD || 0,061 || style="background-color:#ffff80;"| {{Round|115.094339623|1}}
|-
| 3.5" 7200 rpm SSHD || 0,071 || style="background-color:#ffffa0;"| {{Round|133.962264151|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 5400 rpm SHDD || 0,076 || style="background-color:#ffffb0;"| {{Round|143.396226415|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 1TB SSD || 0,358 || style="background-color:#ff9090;"| {{Round|675.471698113|1}}
|-
| 2.5" 7200 rpm SSHD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
| 3.5" 5400 rpm SHDD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
| 3.5" 1TB SSD || {{NA}} || {{NA}}
|-
|}
Exchanging the internal drive to a 7200RPM model doesn’t do much for your loading times (shaves off a second or 2), hybrid SSHD are a bit more future proof while still lowcost, but upgrading to SSD/Flash Drives is almost insane considering the prices you pay per GB. Any modern larger drive is always faster than the older default smaller drive.
Some people are arguing that SSD/Flash Drives produce "much less heat" but consider this: a very good/efficient one uses 5V 0.35A  1.75 Watt while a harddrive uses 5V 0.85A  4.25 Watt. A difference of 2.5W less on a total of 225Watt is not something you would see prominently back on your electric bill or thermometer.
 
===== Note =====
There is even report of SDD's sometimes having a negative impact on performance, compared to the original PS3 harddrive. Example: Corsair CSSD F240GBGT BK - which seem to have 4KB sectors (cause?)
 
Because of the low price/ high storage capacity I personally always go for SATAII/300 7200rpm drives (if internal, maximum height is 9.5mm, 12 or 12.5mm doesn’t fit) and if modified to external via eSATA you can even use cheaper/faster 3.5″ drives (but you’ll need them to have their own powersupply because the internal PS3 powersupply can’t power that safely).
 
===== Original vs Replacement Drives speed comparison =====
 
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! Harddrive !! Interface !! RPM !! Size !! Model !! Seq.read !! Av.Read !! Burst.Read !! Accestime
|-
|-
| Original 2.5" || SATA1 150 || 5400 || 60 GB || Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST96812A S || 25 MB/s || 24.4 MB/s || 28.5 MB/s || 17.4ms
| Original 2.5" || SATA1 150 || 5400 || 60 GB || Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST96812A S || 25 MB/s || 24.4 MB/s || 28.5 MB/s || 17.4ms
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for a more updated table with 1TB 2.5" SSHD's, see [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps4/Harddrive#Hybrid_SSHD_2.5.22_9.5mm_or_thinner Psdevwiki.com/PS4 Harddrive] page


==== Internal SATA to External drive/cradle ====
=== Encryption ===
You can also convert the internal SATA to an external eSATA port, to which you can connect a eSATA cradle or eSATA harddrive. Example of such a cable : http://www.cutedigi.com/images/sata_2_esata_cable.jpg


More solutions are listed here: [[Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive|Solutions for swapping / externalise the harddrive]]
PS3 uses '''XTS-AES-128''' to encrypt the internal HDD drive.


==== [[CECH-40xx]] : External harddrive expansion for internal storage ====
Good paper about XTS-AES: http://ntnu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:347753/FULLTEXT01
* Vertical Stand with Storage attachement (CECH-4000A only)<br />
* Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket (CECH-ZHD1)<br />
* Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket including 250GB drive (CECH-ZS1)<br />
<!--// http://www.ps3hax.net/2012/09/ps3-smaller-lighter-sexier-new-ps3-model-is-revealed/ //-->


==== CECH-4000B only : Internal harddrive ====
XTS-AES-128 means that there are 2 keys of size 128bit actually, the one for tweak encryption and the other for data encryption.
5400rpm Hitachi hard drive
Both keys are different on each PS3 console and can be easily dumped e.g. with modified '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''.
* Z5K500 [[HTS545050A7E380]] (500GB)
These 2 keys are sent to [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] which performs HDD encryption/decryption. '''HDD keys are NOT stored in [[Flash#EID_4_-_Section_4|EID4]].'''
**http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?&p=6490194#post6490194
* Z5K500 [[HTS543225A7A384]] (250GB)
**http://i.techrepublic.com.com/gallery/6388515-850-563.jpg
**http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/WT1Sj1ESQygqXbLy.large


<Gallery>
Currently i'm able to decrypt my PS3 HDD on PC and i can also talk to the [[Hypervisor_Reverse_Engineering#ENCDEC_device|ENCDEC device]] without isolated SPU modules.
File:Topdrive-cech4000B.png |CECH-4000B only : Internal harddrive
File:Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket.jpg |Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket<br />CECH-ZCD1
File:Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket - box.jpg |Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket - box<br />CECH-ZCD1
</Gallery>


== External storage ==
To be able to talk to the ENCDEC device, you have to extract 2 AES-CBC keys and one magic e.g. from '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]''' .
The PS3 also supports external harddrives connected to the USB port (identified as USB Mass Storage device) using only FAT12/16/32 file systems format. File systems like UFS/UFS2, EXT3/EXT4, which are natively used on internal harddrive cannot be used on external on a non-modified system. You can format it to any size up to 8TB '''<nowiki>*</nowiki>''', which is the theoretical drive size limit of FAT32. There have been verified success of 2TB external harddrives working with the PS3. The whole drive needs to be formatted into a single 2TB FAT32 partition using special software tools like fat32format.exe that can handle large drives. Note that FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB.
First, the 2 AES-CBC are used to establish a secure session between the host and the ENCDEC device. The host and the ENCDEC
device exchange 2 random numbers and derive a session key from these random numbers. The session key is then used to encrypt the actual command sent to the ENCDEC device from the host. A command can e.g. set ATA keys.


::<nowiki>*</nowiki>'''FAT32 restrictions:'''
Dumping ATA keys (128bit tweak and 128bit data key) is easy, i did it on PS3 Linux with my '''spuisofs''' driver and a modified
::* ''max amount of files: 268,173,300''
version of '''[[Iso module|sb_iso_spu_module.self]]'''. ATA keys are passed as parameters to this module and i just copied them with MFC DMA to PPU memory
::* ''max filesize: 4,294,967,295 Bytes''
and stopped the execution of the SPU.
::* ''max cluster size: 32K practical, 64K with high incompatibility (PS3 and Xbox360 will accept it, but most applications will not).''
::* ''max sector size: 512 Bytes (4096 sectorsize is not compatible)''
::* ''max amount of clusters per volume: 268,435,445 (2^28)''
::* ''max volume size because of cluster limit: 8,796,093,022,208 Bytes (~8TB)''
::* ''max volume size because of compatibility: 2TB-1 @ 512B sectors, 32KB allocation unit or 4TB-1 @ 512B sectors, 64KB allocation unit (not recommended) / absolute limit would be 16 TB for 4096 byte sectors, which is incompatible with PS3''


::'''''performance consideration:''' with a 8TB volumesize, the file allocation table itself will be 1GB, not really practical (it is 256MB at a 2TB volumesize, which is still a lot larger than ps3 memory thus negatively impacting on performance).''
== CECH-4000A only : External harddrive expansion for internal storage ==
<div style="float:right">[[File:Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket - box.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket - box]]<br />[[File:Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Mounting Bracket]]</div>


== Tools, HDD manufacturers support webs, Documentation, etc ==
Vertical Stand with Storage attachement (CECH-ZHD1)<br />
<div style="float:right">[[File:Diagram of Hard Disk Drive Manufacturer Consolidation.svg|200px|thumb|left|Diagram of Hard Disk Drive Manufacturer Consolidation<br />[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_hard_disk_manufacturers List of defunct hard disk manufacturers]]]</div>
Harddrive size: 250GB (CECH-ZS1)<br />
<!--// http://www.ps3hax.net/2012/09/ps3-smaller-lighter-sexier-new-ps3-model-is-revealed/ //-->


Sometimes you just need to be sure that harddrive is still working in crisp condition. All harddrive manufacturers have special low level diagnostics tool for that purpose.
== CECH-4000B only : Internal harddrive ==
[[:File:Topdrive-cech4000B.png]]


===Low level diagnostic tools===
5400rpm Hitachi hard drive - a Z5K500 HTS545050A7E380
** [http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/ Seagate SeaTools] (also Samsung)
** [http://majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=1386&file=15&evp=3babe0ea87490b39869a7483f531f24f Maxtor PowerMax] (currently Seagate)
** [http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=613&sid=30&lang=en Western Digital Data Lifeguard Diagnostic]
** [http://www.hgst.com/support/downloads/#DFT Hitachi Drive Fitness Test] (currently Western Digital)


*Some of this wikipage is also in User Manual (e.g. Page 36 and further: [http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf])
<!--// http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?&p=6490194#post6490194 //-->


===HDD Manufacturers support and info webs===
== External storage ==


====Fujitsu====
The PS3 also supports external harddrives (via the USB port) using the FAT32 file system format. Files systems like UFS/UFS2, EXT3/EXT4, which are natively used on internal harddrive cannot be used on external on a non-modified system. You can format it to any size up to 8TB **, which is the theoretical drive size limit of FAT32. There have been verified success of 2TB external harddrives working with the PS3. The whole drive needs to be formatted into a single 2TB FAT32 partition using special software tools like fat32format.exe that can handle large drives. Note that FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB.


http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/support_services/faq.html (fujistsu storage products model numbers)
<pre>** note: this seems untrue, because when &gt;2TB drives have hit the market, no screenshots of >2TB external storage are known</pre>


M=fujitsu, H=HNfamily, Z=series, 2=2.5", 040=40GB, BH=interface
== Low level diagnostic tools ==
 
Sometimes you just need to be sure that harddrive is still working in crisp condition. All harddrive manufacturers have special low level diagnostics tool for that purpose.
 
====Hitachi====
 
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/newnum.htm
 
http://www.hgst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/pages/main?OpenDocument
 
http://www.hgst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/productfamilies/Travelstar
 
H=HGST, T=Travelstar, S = Standard, 54=5400rpm, 16 =topcapacity, 40=model capacity, J=Generation, 9=9mm form factor, SA=sata150 (or E3 = SATA 3Gb/s), 8=Feature code (8MB cache), 0=Unique code
 
 
====Seagate====
 
http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/204763en#notebook
 
http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/206431en?language=en_US
 
http://www.seagate.com/support/internal-hard-drives/consumer-electronics/ld25-series/
 
http://www.seagate.com/support/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/momentus-laptop/
 
ST=brand(seagate) 9=form factor(2.5") 6=size(60GB) 8=cache(8mb) 12=identifier AS=interface(SATA)
 
 
====Toshiba====
 
Toshiba Europe Products - Client Hard Disk Drives: http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/hdd/hard_disk_drives/index.jsp#
 
http://storage.toshiba.com/storage-services-support/documentation/data-sheets


http://storage.toshiba.eu/export/sites/toshiba-sdd/media/products/datasheets/mk****gsx_datasheet.pdf
* [http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/ Seagate SeaTools] (also Samsung)
* [http://majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=1386&file=15&evp=3babe0ea87490b39869a7483f531f24f Maxtor PowerMax] (currently Seagate)
* [http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=613&sid=30&lang=en Western Digital Data Lifeguard Diagnostic]
* [http://www.hgst.com/support/downloads/#DFT Hitachi Drive Fitness Test] (currently Western Digital)


== User manual ==
Some of this wikipage is also in User Manual (e.g. Page 36 and further: [http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf CECH-2001A_2001B-2.85_2.pdf]) and [http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=362 Knowledge Centre: Can I upgrade the hard disk drive (HDD) inside my PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system?]


{{Models}}


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