Editing Graf's PSGroove Payload

Source Code for a git bootstrap and the payload from coolstuff.rar:<br>
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9BGFIXJD

Requirements:
 - Working ppc64 toolchain
 - libpcap (sudo apt-get install libpcap-dev)
 - libnet (sudo apt-get install libnet1-dev)

Instructions:
 - cd bootstrap-8a5898f
 - make
 - cd ../payload-coolstuff/tools
 - make
 - Set the options you want in the payload's main.c
 - cd ..
 - make

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Graf's Tutorial (Cut IRC Log):
 On decrypter payload https://github.com/grafchokolo/psgroove
 
 <iLLNESS> graf, is your payload to be used with psgroove?
 
 <graf_chokolo> yeah, psgroove, it uses 2 stages
 
 <graf_chokolo> boostrap is programmed into psgroove
 <graf_chokolo> payload is sent to ps3 via ethernet
 <graf_chokolo> payload is what does the real job :-)
 
 <graf_chokolo> i did it that way because you cannot program psgroove with large piece of code
 <graf_chokolo> bootstrap.bin have to be converted to C hex and inserted into psgroove descriptor
 
 <graf_chokolo> i can upload my psgroove descriptor, it's no problem
 <graf_chokolo> ok, here is my psgroove desc
 <graf_chokolo> http://pastie.org/1368027
 <graf_chokolo> just convert bootstrap.bin to payload.h with bin2hex tool i provided
 <graf_chokolo> the bytes after payload.h doesn't matter, they are just dummies
 
 <graf_chokolo> program your psgroove with this bootstrap
 <graf_chokolo> bootstrap has one purpose, it received payload.bin from me via ethernet and runs it :-)
 
 <graf_chokolo> this way i can run huge piece of code :-)
 <graf_chokolo> and do not need to reprogram my psgroove everytime, have just to change payload and it does something different
 
 <graf_chokolo> i'm using tcpdump to capture verything that comes back from ps3 and extract it then with pcap2bin
 
 <graf_chokolo> you can also use wireshark if you want to
 <graf_chokolo> payload.bin is sent to ps3 with sendfile tool i provided
 <graf_chokolo> and a self to decrypt e.g. is also sent with sendfile via ethernet
 <graf_chokolo> all data sent to ps3 is acked by ps3, to make sure that file transferred to ps3 is ok
 
 <graf_chokolo> because sometimes a ethernet frame can get lost
 
 <graf_chokolo> to be able to decrypt selfs you have first to edit main.c file and uncomment it, make sure only self decrypter will be called in main except mm and gelic
 
 <graf_chokolo> to decrypt selfs, first run psgroove with programmed bootstrap
 <graf_chokolo> wait some time till it runsa
 <graf_chokolo> then send payload.bin
 
 <graf_chokolo> data sent to ps3 should be acked,sendfle will give you feedback
 <graf_chokolo> if it doesn't see any acks then there is a problem
 <graf_chokolo> i think here it would be best to test it with your ps3
 <graf_chokolo> when payload.bin is uploaded to ps3 it will be executed immediately
 <graf_chokolo> if the payload.bin does self decryption then it waits now for you to send it some SELF file to decrypt :-)
 
 <graf_chokolo> so send  a SELF to ps3 with sendfile
 <graf_chokolo> but before that make sure you start tcpdump to capture the data coming back from ps3 :-)
 
 <graf_chokolo> because the data will contain the decrypted SELF segments :-)
 <graf_chokolo> every decrypted self segment is sent using different Ethernet protocol field values
 
 <graf_chokolo> i do it for one purpose, to make extracting decrypted segments easier
 <graf_chokolo> here an example
 <graf_chokolo> if a SELF has 2 encrypted segments, i send 1st decrypted segment with Ethernet protocol field value 0xBEEF, and the 2nd one i send with protocol (0xBEEF+1)
 
 <graf_chokolo> so to extract the 1st segment from tcpdump pcap file i just use "pcap2bin -p 0xBEEF  <pcap filename>  <segment filename>"
 
 <graf_chokolo> so to extract the 2nd segment from tcpdump pcap file i just use "pcap2bin -p 0xBEF0  <pcap filename>  <segment filename>"
 
 <graf_chokolo> and now you have 2 decrypted segments :-) which are impatient to be loaded into IDA for reversing, but that's not all :-)
 <graf_chokolo> forgot to say. when self decrypter is done, ps3 should make 2 beeps :-)
 <graf_chokolo> you need also the right load addresses for those segments in order to be able to reverse it
 <graf_chokolo> self decrypter sends not only decrypted segments to you, it sends more data :-)
 <graf_chokolo> one of the packets sent to PC by self decrypter contains load address of segment, take a look at decrypt_self.c and you will understand what i mean
 
 <graf_chokolo> this paxket is sent just before the decrypted data is sent
 <graf_chokolo> so now you have everything to do reversing with IDA
 <graf_chokolo> just load these segments into IDA at right addresses

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Graf's Tutorial (Full IRC Log):
 [23:06] <@graf_chokolo> so guys should i start ?
 [23:06] <Heden_DLT> Hi all
 [23:06] <thomas> ok what is my first step here?
 [23:06] <thomas> psgroove modification?
 [23:06] <@arunningp> graf_chokolo everyone is here now...please start
 [23:06] <@theruler_> ^ this.
 [23:06] <@graf_chokolo> ok
 [23:07] <@arunningp> everyone else...let himtalk
 [23:07] <@graf_chokolo> i use 2 stages to run my code
 [23:07] <@graf_chokolo> 1st stage is kinda bootloader for 2nd stage because psgroove allows only small piece of code
 [23:08] <@graf_chokolo> so first i program psgroove with my 1st stage 
 [23:08] <@graf_chokolo> it's always the same
 [23:08] <@iLLNESS> yo
 [23:09] <@graf_chokolo> it creates a memory region of 64kb for 2nd stage and receives 2nd stage binary rom PC via Ethernet, stores received binary in this memory and executes it
 [23:09] <@graf_chokolo> so far clear ?
 [23:09] <Heden_DLT> yep
 [23:09] <@iLLNESS> yes..
 [23:09] <@frank> prove it ^
 [23:09] <@iLLNESS> i got a quick question
 [23:09] <Heden_DLT> lol
 [23:09] <@graf_chokolo> ok
 [23:09] <@iLLNESS> your payload is slightly different from psgroove
 [23:09] <@frank> is that kilobits or bytes?
 [23:10] <@graf_chokolo> completely different :-)
 [23:10] <@iLLNESS> i mean, the layout of it
 [23:10] <@iLLNESS> http://pastie.org/1368027
 [23:10] <@iLLNESS> payload.h is the bootstrap header?
 [23:10] <@graf_chokolo> first i compile bootloader and convert it to C hex and store it in payload.h
 [23:11] <@graf_chokolo> then i include it into psgroove desc
 [23:11] <Heden_DLT> does your memory region
 [23:11] <@iLLNESS> okay. the pastie link i just provided is the port1 config descriptor in full? aka no extra padding?
 [23:11] <Heden_DLT> protected against overwriting
 [23:12] <@frank> original psgroove?
 [23:12] <@graf_chokolo> iLLNESS: it's complete psgroove desc i use, copied from my code, so you can just use it
 [23:12] <@graf_chokolo> there are more psgrooves ?
 [23:13] <@iLLNESS> what commands are you using for the bin2hex?
 [23:13] <@iLLNESS> oh nm
 [23:13] <@iLLNESS> i see the makefile
 [23:13] <@graf_chokolo> ./bin2hex bootstrap.bin > payload.h
 [23:13] <@frank> PL3 is in the new one, and iirc the FACEBOOK doesn't exist in it
 [23:14] <@graf_chokolo> i use an old psgroove version
 [23:14] <@graf_chokolo> and compile everything with IBM's ppu cross compiler
 [23:14] <@frank> i know :), just wanted to make sure + let them know
 [23:15] <@graf_chokolo> more questions ?
 [23:15] <Heden_DLT> memory region
 [23:15] <Heden_DLT> ?
 [23:15] <@graf_chokolo> ah, ok, sorry
 [23:15] <Heden_DLT> no prob :)
 [23:15] <@graf_chokolo> i allocate the memory direct by using HV call so, gameos doesn't even see it :-)
 [23:16] <Heden_DLT> ok
 [23:16] <@graf_chokolo> it's hidden from gameos
 [23:16] <Heden_DLT> This is what i thought
 [23:16] <Heden_DLT> no worry about overwritten
 [23:16] <@graf_chokolo> yeah
 [23:17] <@graf_chokolo> something unclear maybe ? don't hesitate to ask
 [23:17] <Heden_DLT> it's ok
 [23:18] <@graf_chokolo> when 1st stage runs, it expects you to send the 2nd stage via Ethernet
 [23:18] <@graf_chokolo> i use sendfile for this
 [23:19] <@graf_chokolo> you will find it payload/tools
 [23:19] <@graf_chokolo> in*
 [23:19] <@iLLNESS> what are the symptoms of a successful boot with the bootstrap?
 [23:20] <@iLLNESS> ps3 is black screened with light on
 [23:20] <@iLLNESS> power light that is
 [23:20] <@graf_chokolo> ps3 hangs :-) gameos shouldn't boot, but i could put a beep into bootstrap :-) then you will here it when it's ready
 [23:21] <@iLLNESS> yeah that would be good
 [23:21] <@iLLNESS> :)
 [23:22] <@graf_chokolo> ps3 should send ACKs for every received packet, sendfile will give you feedback about this
 [23:22] <@iLLNESS> i get 'nothing to be done for 'all' when compiling your sendfile
 [23:22] <@graf_chokolo> maybe it's already compiled ?
 [23:23] <@iLLNESS> :o a new error :o
 [23:23] <@iLLNESS> sendfile.c:20: fatal error: libnet.h: No such file or directory
 [23:23] <@iLLNESS> what are the requisites for compiling this?
 [23:23] <@iLLNESS> pre-requisites that is
 [23:23] <@graf_chokolo> you need libnet library, libpcap also
 [23:24] <@graf_chokolo> so, after the last packet of 2nd stage is received, 1st stage is done and jumps to 2nd stage and executes it
 [23:25] <Heden_DLT> ok
 [23:25] <@iLLNESS> which distro are you using this on?
 [23:25] <@graf_chokolo> arch linux x86
 [23:25] <@frank> ill, probably port to win32
 [23:25] <@iLLNESS> your porting to win32?
 [23:25] <@graf_chokolo> i quit :-)
 [23:25] <@theruler_> lol
 [23:26] <Heden_DLT> lol
 [23:26] <@frank> lol, why so soon? :p
 [23:26] <Heden_DLT> win32 !
 [23:26] <@frank> guys use ubuntu
 [23:26] <@arunningp> ill keep a tally for how many times graf quits :P
 [23:27] <@frank> i just prefer VS
 [23:27] <@graf_chokolo> it doesn't matter which linux are you using :-) arch linux is just my favorite and dwm manager :-)
 [23:27] <Heden_DLT> Then 2nd stage :p
 [23:28] <@iLLNESS> ack.
 [23:28] <@iLLNESS> �core/config.c:111: error: ignoring return value of ‘fgets’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
 [23:28] <@iLLNESS> make [1]: ***  [core/config.o] Error 1
 [23:29] <thomas> "bootloader" == "bootstrap" == "stage 1" ?  just want to keep the terms clear
 [23:29] <thomas> you need LATEST libpcap
 [23:29] <@iLLNESS> im trying to install libnet :o
 [23:29] <@graf_chokolo> thomas, correct
 [23:29] <thomas> cool.
 [23:29] <thomas> this is being logged to make into a nice tutorial ;)
 [23:30] <@graf_chokolo> no problem with that, everything is public anyways, just in code
 [23:31] <@graf_chokolo> so, in main.c of 2nd stage you will find many function calls, most of them are disabled, mm_init, gelic_init and param_init should never be disabled
 [23:31] <Heden_DLT> mm_init returns 0 :)
 [23:31] <@graf_chokolo> to make self decrypter payload e.g. activate decrypt_self call
 [23:31] <@graf_chokolo> 0 means success
 [23:32] <Heden_DLT> yeah this is the only line 
 [23:32] <Heden_DLT> if i remember
 [23:32] <@graf_chokolo> to make lv2 decrypter activate decrypt_lv2_direct call and so on
 [23:32] <@graf_chokolo> after that compile 2nd stage
 [23:33] <@graf_chokolo> you will get payload.bin which you have to send to 1st stage with sendfile
 [23:33] <@graf_chokolo> questions ?
 [23:33] * thomas is using fedora 14 ... fwiw
 [23:33] <@graf_chokolo> i quit :-)
 [23:33] <@arunningp> thats 3 so far...
 [23:33] <Heden_DLT> I did tell you that I had a problem of linker
 [23:34] <Heden_DLT> for this one :(
 [23:34] <@frank> graf_chokolo, never give up
 [23:34] <@arunningp> never surrender
 [23:34] <Heden_DLT> toilets ?
 [23:34] <@graf_chokolo> Heden_DLT, with IBM's ppu compiler ?
 [23:35] <Heden_DLT> coffee ?
 [23:35] <Heden_DLT> no choko
 [23:35] <Heden_DLT> I don't use this one
 [23:35] <Heden_DLT> I should ?
 [23:35] <@graf_chokolo> hm, i only tested with IBM's ppu compiler, not sure about others
 [23:35] <Heden_DLT> Once lv1 functions compiled
 [23:35] <@graf_chokolo> with IBM's compiler i have no problems at all
 [23:36] <Heden_DLT> the linker cannot find them
 [23:36] <Heden_DLT> but continue
 [23:36] <Heden_DLT> I'll will look deeper
 [23:37] <@graf_chokolo> ok, we can discuss your problems with compiler another day
 [23:37] <Heden_DLT> yep
 [23:37] <@graf_chokolo> ok, now you send payload.bin to bootloader, it receives it and executes
 [23:37] <@iLLNESS> would libpcap-dev be okay to use?
 [23:37] <@graf_chokolo> yeah
 [23:38] <@iLLNESS> :)
 [23:38] <@graf_chokolo> i assume now that we want to decrypt selfs
 [23:38] <@graf_chokolo> should i go deeper into details or just user manual ?
 [23:39] <Heden_DLT> lol
 [23:39] <Heden_DLT> I just see
 [23:39] <@frank> when will women stop bitching
 [23:39] <@theruler_> never.
 [23:39] <Heden_DLT> that you isolated a SPU
 [23:40] <@frank> when all men are dead
 [23:40] <@theruler_> :P
 [23:40] <@iLLNESS> damnit
 [23:40] <@iLLNESS> still get libnet errors
 [23:41] <Heden_DLT> put your self in memory
 [23:41] <Heden_DLT> and ask the spu to decrypt it using a mailbox
 [23:41] <@theruler_> @Rich: You following along or how are you making out?
 [23:41] <@graf_chokolo> you are looking at decrypt_self.c or decrypt_self_direct.c ?
 [23:42] <Heden_DLT> me ?
 [23:42] <@iLLNESS> inflate.c:20: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory 
 [23:42] <@graf_chokolo> yeah
 [23:42] <@iLLNESS> :o
 [23:42] <@graf_chokolo> install zlib
 [23:42] <Heden_DLT> choko : decrypt_self.x
 [23:42] <Heden_DLT> choko : decrypt_self.c
 [23:42] <@graf_chokolo> you need inflate for decrypting update packages
 [23:43] <@graf_chokolo> i do not load isolated module (appldr) manually, HV call 99 does it, in decrypt_self_direct.c i do it manually
 [23:44] <Heden_DLT> inflate or deflate ?
 [23:44] <thomas> sorry graf, one question ... what is the difference between the config_descriptor [] you provided in the pastie, and the stage1 bootstrap?  I ask because the bootstrap I compile is MUCH larger
 [23:44] <@graf_chokolo> zlib calls it inflate
 [23:44] <Heden_DLT> ok
 [23:44] <@frank> like a balloon :)
 [23:45] <Heden_DLT> :)
 [23:45] <@graf_chokolo> bootstrap.bin ?
 [23:45] <thomas> right, now bootstrap.hex via bin2hex
 [23:46] <@graf_chokolo> compile bootstrap.bin, convert it to payload.h with ./bin2hex bootstrap.bin > payload.h and place payload.h into psgroove dir
 [23:46] <thomas> are they the same?  I compiled from latest git
 [23:46] <thomas> ok
 [23:47] <@graf_chokolo> then compile psgroove and flash it
 [23:47] <@graf_chokolo> but use my config desc and not the one from psgroove
 [23:47] <@iLLNESS> i have the bootstrap compiled if you guys want it
 [23:47] <@iLLNESS> just give me board info
 [23:48] <@iLLNESS> i cant compile the payload tools though :(
 [23:48] <thomas> when you say you use an old version of psgroove, do you suspect latest git (with PL3) to be incompatible?
 [23:49] <@frank> grab the one that added peek/poke
 [23:49] <@iLLNESS> :o
 [23:49] <@iLLNESS> i got it :)
 [23:49] <@theruler_> sweet
 [23:49] <@graf_chokolo> hm, really don't know, because i compiled bootstrap once, flashed psgroove and have not changed it since ages
 [23:49] <@iLLNESS> thomas, i used evilsperms psgroove fork for this
 [23:49] <@iLLNESS> just remove the #ifdef before port1 config descriptor
 [23:49] <Heden_DLT> a stupid question choco
 [23:49] <@iLLNESS> as well as the #endif
 [23:49] <@frank> ya, peek/poke was my last update, so i haven't changed it, heh
 [23:50] <Heden_DLT> all packets received and sent
 [23:50] <@graf_chokolo> waiting for question
 [23:51] <Heden_DLT> are done with a "simple" ETH link between PC and PS3 ?
 [23:51] <@graf_chokolo> i have a router and ps3 and pc are connected to it
 [23:52] <@graf_chokolo> ps3 sends packets with broadcast dest mac addr
 [23:52] <Heden_DLT> Gelic gives the opportunity then to a direct link ?
 [23:53] <@graf_chokolo> gelic is just a low level device driver which sends raw ethernet frames
 [23:53] <@graf_chokolo> i do not use IPv4 :-)
 [23:53] <Heden_DLT> lol
 [23:53] <@frank> no layer 3? :O
 [23:53] <@graf_chokolo> so to use sendfile you need root rights
 [23:54] <@graf_chokolo> no, i wanted first to use UDP but i thouth then what for ?
 [23:54] <@frank> i know, just pulling ur leg :p
 [23:54] <@graf_chokolo> :-)
 [23:55] <@graf_chokolo> no more questions ?
 [23:55] <thomas> I have done this to the descriptor.h file... http://pastie.org/1374542
 [23:56] <@graf_chokolo> looks fine i would say
 [23:56] <@graf_chokolo> so about self decrypter
 [23:56] <@graf_chokolo> it expects you to send a SELF which it will decrypt
 [23:57] <Heden_DLT> :)
 [23:57] <@graf_chokolo> so grab some SELF and again use sendfile to send it to ps3
 [23:57] <@graf_chokolo> you should see ACKS comming from ps3
 [23:58] <@graf_chokolo> sendfile will give you feedback about that
 [23:58] <@graf_chokolo> it is also ok if some packets get lost, sendfile will retransmit it
 [23:58] <Heden_DLT> great!
 [23:59] <@graf_chokolo> but before sending a SELF start tcpdump to capture the decrypted segments sent by ps3
 [23:59] <@graf_chokolo> or else you could miss them if you are not fast enough :-)
 [00:00] <@graf_chokolo> after self decrypter is done it should make 2 beeps :-)
 [00:00] <Heden_DLT> double beep ;)
 [00:00] <@graf_chokolo> yeah, and now you can terminate tcpdump
 [00:01] <@graf_chokolo> it should contains decrypted segments now
 [00:01] <@graf_chokolo> which are impatient to be reversed by you :-)
 [00:01] <@arunningp> lulz
 [00:01] <Heden_DLT> yet the problem
 [00:02] <Heden_DLT> to separate payload
 [00:02] <Heden_DLT> from "header"
 [00:02] <@graf_chokolo> no problem :-)
 [00:02] <@graf_chokolo> i send decrypted segmnets with Ethernet protocol field starting with 0xBEEF :-)
 [00:03] <@frank> yum
 [00:03] <Heden_DLT> 0xBEEF...payload....0xBEEF..payload
 [00:03] <Heden_DLT> right ?
 [00:03] <@graf_chokolo> so data from 1st decrypted segment has protocol 0xBEEF, data from 2nd decrypted segment has protocol 0xBEEF+1 and so on
 [00:03] <@graf_chokolo> yeah, right
 [00:03] <Heden_DLT> nice !
 [00:04] <Heden_DLT> 0xCAFE is better
 [00:04] <Heden_DLT> :p
 [00:04] <@graf_chokolo> now use pcap2bin and dump_segs_from_pcap.sh to extract those segments
 [00:04] <@graf_chokolo> segments are pure ppc asm :-)
 [00:05] <@graf_chokolo> no, in case of executable files the 1st segment contains also ELF header
 [00:05] <Heden_DLT> ah..
 [00:05] <Heden_DLT> a true ELF ?
 [00:05] <@graf_chokolo> and strings of course
 [00:05] <@graf_chokolo> no, not true ELF ready to run
 [00:06] <Heden_DLT> I saw a tutorial
 [00:06] <Heden_DLT> using zlib to reconstruct
 [00:06] <@graf_chokolo> just segments of ELF, but you can make an ELF, for reversing you don't need true ELFs
 [00:06] <Heden_DLT> sure
 [00:06] <@graf_chokolo> zlib ?
 [00:07] <Heden_DLT> zpipe
 [00:07] <Heden_DLT> sorry
 [00:07] <@graf_chokolo> segments are not compressed, appldr already decompressed them
 [00:08] <Heden_DLT> look : http://netkas.org/?p=573
 [00:08] <@graf_chokolo> yeah, but why compressing them ?
 [00:09] <Heden_DLT> well good question
 [00:09] <@graf_chokolo> that's not all guys
 [00:09] <@graf_chokolo> you have got now segments, but to reverse it you also need load addresses of these segments
 [00:10] <@theruler_> @thomas/@iLLNESS: you guys still following along?
 [00:10] <@graf_chokolo> ask questions if you have any, i will help
 [00:11] <@graf_chokolo> no questions ?
 [00:11] <Heden_DLT> i will have
 [00:11] <Heden_DLT> concerning LV2..
 [00:11] <Heden_DLT> But I let the others
 [00:11] <@graf_chokolo> yeah
 [00:11] <Heden_DLT> finish with this step
 [00:12] <@graf_chokolo> guys, ask me anything, don't hesitate, i won't laugh you out
 [00:12] <@arunningp> although he might quit :P
 [00:12] <Heden_DLT> :p
 [00:13] <Heden_DLT> choko ?
 [00:13] <@graf_chokolo> so no questions then ? :-)
 [00:13] <@theruler_> not sure if thomas/ill are AFK or what
 [00:13] <@theruler_> but if heden is good you can keep going
 [00:13] <Heden_DLT> okay
 [00:13] <thomas> ok, got it compiled and my minimus flashed ... first boot looks successful! \o/ ps3 is at black screen and minimus blue light is off
 [00:13] <@theruler_> great job thomas
 [00:13] <@theruler_> :D
 [00:14] <@graf_chokolo> try to send something with sendfile, you should see acks
 [00:14] * thomas is up-reading ... 
 [00:14] <Heden_DLT> the way you described is simply amazing :)
 [00:15] <Heden_DLT> Now..let's talk if you want
 [00:15] <thomas> ok, as far as tcpdump goes, *what* should I be looking for, udp? port?
 [00:15] <@graf_chokolo> you know tcpdump a bit ?
 [00:15] <thomas> sure
 [00:16] <@graf_chokolo> you could e.g. filter only traffic comming from ps3's mac address
 [00:16] <thomas> ok, I should be using a cross-over cable?
 [00:16] <thomas> or was I supposed to set an IP address somewhere?
 [00:16] <thomas> ie destination
 [00:16] <@graf_chokolo> hm, i used router, didn't try cross over
 [00:17] <@graf_chokolo> i don't use IP, just Ethernet
 [00:17] <thomas> my sniffer(tcpdump) and the ps3 are on the same switch, but its a switch not a hub
 [00:17] <Heden_DLT> thomas : try a direct link ?
 [00:17] <@graf_chokolo> ps3 use brodcast dst addr so it should be no problem
 [00:17] <thomas> kk
 [00:18] <thomas> that I think answers my question
 [00:18] <@graf_chokolo> i mean filter for eth src addr of ps3
 [00:18] <thomas> right
 [00:18] <@graf_chokolo> not dst
 [00:19] <@graf_chokolo> more questions ?
 [00:19] <Heden_DLT> does all worl on old fat PS3 ?
 [00:19] <Heden_DLT> thomas : slim or fat ?
 [00:19] <thomas> is it by chance sending anything periodicall?
 [00:19] <thomas> fat 3.15
 [00:19] <thomas> CECHG01
 [00:20] <Heden_DLT> ok
 [00:20] <@graf_chokolo> i have not tried it yet, but intend to do it, someone reported that it has problems with FATs
 [00:20] <@graf_chokolo> i use slim
 [00:20] <Heden_DLT> thomas seems to success on a fat
 [00:20] <@graf_chokolo> but i will test it in the next days with a fat
 [00:21] <thomas> I have a minor chicken/egg problem atm ... it is booted with payload, but arp -a gives me an incomplete address ... let me read up this tcpdump that has been running for 2 days watching the ps3 to see if mac is in there
 [00:21] <@graf_chokolo> you need the filter for tcpdump, just capture everything, no problem with that
 [00:21] <@graf_chokolo> don't need*
 [00:22] <@graf_chokolo> you can use it but it's not required
 [00:22] <Heden_DLT> may i continue thomas or you need details from choco ?
 [00:22] <thomas> go on ;)
 [00:23] <Heden_DLT> sure ?
 [00:23] <Heden_DLT> choko ?
 [00:23] <@graf_chokolo> yeah
 [00:39] <Heden_DLT> a big thank to theruler
 [00:39] <Heden_DLT> and choko
 [00:39] <@graf_chokolo> yeah
 [00:40] <@theruler_> @graf: thanks for all your help
 [00:40] <Heden_DLT> bye bye